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Meechai admits typing error about the votes needed to choose the prime minister

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BANGKOK: Constitution Drafting Committee chairman Meechai Ruchupan admitted a typing error about the parliamentary votes on the choice of the prime minister saying that the votes should be two-thirds of the representatives of the two chambers and not three-fifths as mistakenly said at a press conference on Thursday.

He said that the next prime minister would have to receive two-thirds of the votes of the senators and MPs or 500 out of 750 votes and not three-fifths of the votes of the two chambers.

He also brushed aside the accusations that the CDC’s acceptance of the military junta’s proposal for a fully-appointed 250-member Senate was intended to pave the way for the junta to stay on in power for the next five years.

He defended that the prime minister would not be chosen by the senators but by members of the House and, hence, it could not be claimed that the fully-appointed Senate was intended to enable the NCPO to stay on in power.

Besides the five military top brass and the national police chief who are to be made ex-officio senators, Mr Meechai said the charter draft also requires a list of 100 reservist senators who will fill in the vacant seats in the Senate so that there is no need to go through the selection process for senators.

All the 250 senators will be appointed before there is an election, said the CDC chairman.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/156899

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-- Thai PBS 2016-03-26

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I would also check for spelling errors on the number of senators a country has small as Thailand needs and how they are selected. Seems like numerous errors. Of course blame the clerk typist for it.

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So the Junta chooses the senators and the senators along with MPs choose the Prime Minister.

And if the Senators and minority party gang up to select an MP from said minority party to be Prime Minister, how does that work with the majority elected party?

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Reservist ( quiet clearly is a member of the military reserve forces) ," No need to go through any selection process"

As a reserve my understanding is you want to take part or be a part of that team and are chosen on merit,

sadly lacking here, and as the time rolls on, i feel my views are increasingly getting more cynical of the moves that are

being perpetrated to guarantee a selected few who will scratch my back and follow orders, i will scratch yours all the way to a reserved privileged seat

with trimmings.

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Decades ago when I worked in a very demanding, nit picking organisation using the ' typo ' excuse was usually met with comments that a document should be properly proof read before being released.

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So the Junta chooses the senators and the senators along with MPs choose the Prime Minister.

And if the Senators and minority party gang up to select an MP from said minority party to be Prime Minister, how does that work with the majority elected party?

Not"how does that work" - rather that is exactly how it works!

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If he has to receive two thirds of the vote of the senators, and the senators are all appointed by the NCPO, The the NCPO obviously has control of who the PM will be.

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If he has to receive two thirds of the vote of the senators, and the senators are all appointed by the NCPO, The the NCPO obviously has control of who the PM will be.

Are you thus saying , in your estimation, that you see through the smoke, screen,

and andfurther do say , you feel deceit and dishonorable behaviour is being

played out in front of your eyes.

How say thee?

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Decades ago when I worked in a very demanding, nit picking organisation using the ' typo ' excuse was usually met with comments that a document should be properly proof read before being released.

But that was probably in a country where a low-class proof-reader would get a pat on the back for spotting an error made by his boss/superior.

Unfortunately in Thailand you would be fired for pointing out a mistake the boss makes as you make him lose face.

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I don't think it's a typing error. Probably more of the typist jotting down what he knew/heard and not what the ''official'' story was.

I mean, rhis is a tyoing error. It's a result of accidently hitting the ketter next to tje correct one.

2/3 and 3/5: Double error with numbers...right :blink: and if the numbers were spelled out then <deleted>

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So the Junta chooses the senators and the senators along with MPs choose the Prime Minister.

And if the Senators and minority party gang up to select an MP from said minority party to be Prime Minister, how does that work with the majority elected party?

They couldn't slip it past without you noticing - damn! I wonder if the Thai electorate will spot this, or even care?

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If he has to receive two thirds of the vote of the senators, and the senators are all appointed by the NCPO, The the NCPO obviously has control of who the PM will be.

Really? How did we let that happen?

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So the Junta chooses the senators and the senators along with MPs choose the Prime Minister.

And if the Senators and minority party gang up to select an MP from said minority party to be Prime Minister, how does that work with the majority elected party?

Not"how does that work" - rather that is exactly how it works!

He says one thing about all members choosing and then contradicts it by saying that only the House not the Senate will choose the PM.

So which is it? Either he can't make up his mind. someone is giving a clear instruction or it didn't slip through unnoticed as intended.

Nothing can be straight forward here.

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If he has to receive two thirds of the vote of the senators, and the senators are all appointed by the NCPO, The the NCPO obviously has control of who the PM will be.

Really? How did we let that happen?

"He defended that the prime minister would not be chosen by the senators but by members of the House"

From the OP.

Then how come the measure of votes includes both houses?

More holes than a Swiss cheese!

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All the 250 senators will be appointed before there is an election, said the CDC chairman.

So the new government will be in place before elections... coffee1.gif

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2 scenarios here really:

1. The majority party in the lower house select their leader as the prime ministerial candidate. The lower house chooses the candidate so whoever has the majority in the house selects the candidate. The Senate and house vote, the selected candidate becomes prime minister and everything proceeds as normal.

2. The majority party select the candidate as in (1) above. The lower house approves the selection. The Senate and the house vote, the whole senate votes no, the minority parties in the lower house vote no, the candidate is not selected. The majority party could keep submitting candidates but they keep getting shot down. The only way to break the dead lock is to select a candidate from a minority party who is acceptable to the Senate. This would then result in a Prime Minister who is not of the same party as the majority of MPs in the lower house. Nothing would get done and the country would be crippled.

There is one get out of jail card for the lower house. If all parties agree to vote together to ensure that the leader of the majority party always becomes prime minister, then they will always get the 500 out of 750 votes required. Chances of this happening? Low I'd say.

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So the Junta chooses the senators and the senators along with MPs choose the Prime Minister.

And if the Senators and minority party gang up to select an MP from said minority party to be Prime Minister, how does that work with the majority elected party?

Another Coup.........................cheesy.gif

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I would say the deck has been well stacked now. Let's review the cards:

- a new vetting process for lower house candidates; screening out undesirables.

- a lower house election providing greater likelihood of small party

factions; ineffectual lower house

- a Senate fully appointed by the Junta; veto power over elected body.

- outsider PM; likely Junta controlled cabinet and executive branch.

- New Administrative Court division of Supreme Court; judges appointed by Junta; jurisdiction over uncooperative government officials; no opportunity for appeals; fast track "justice".

- No change in accountability of armed forces.

- all implemented whether or not approved by referendum.

Now lets all sing and watch the Junta blow out the candles.

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If he has to receive two thirds of the vote of the senators, and the senators are all appointed by the NCPO, The the NCPO obviously has control of who the PM will be.

Really? How did we let that happen?

"He defended that the prime minister would not be chosen by the senators but by members of the House"

From the OP.

Then how come the measure of votes includes both houses?

More holes than a Swiss cheese!

Could there be a chink of light getting through your blinkers BB?

I think you've realised that all parties will be well and truly shafted by this lot regardless of who you cheer for.

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This Meechai is ~80 yrs old.............and still can't take blame for anything...."it's a typo".........he was obviously given a bit of flack to come out and make this statement......another fake!

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What a load of rubbish. The PM should be elected by the members of parliament only. Appointed senators have no business electing the PM.

It seems the draft charter is full of typing errors.

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What a load of rubbish. The PM should be elected by the members of parliament only. Appointed senators have no business electing the PM.

It seems the draft charter is full of typing errors.

Members of parliament have no business selecting the PM eithe IMHO.

I reckon the PM of any country should br elected by popular vote of the general populous.

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What a load of rubbish. The PM should be elected by the members of parliament only. Appointed senators have no business electing the PM.

It seems the draft charter is full of typing errors.

Members of parliament have no business selecting the PM eithe IMHO.

I reckon the PM of any country should br elected by popular vote of the general populous.

No.

In a parliamentary system such as has been in Thailand the parliament elects the PM.

It is in a presidential system such as in the republics of USA and South Korea that the head of government is elected directly by the "general populous."

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