85 flights delayed at Don Mueang and Suvarnabhumi

webfact · March 31, 2016

85 flights delayed at Don Mueang and Suvarnabhumi

BANGKOK: -- The Aeronautical Radio of Thailand Co (Aerothai) says 85 departure and arrival flights at Bangkok's Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi airports were delayed after it started to introduce the new flight management system today.

The new flight system is the effort of the state-run air traffic controller to increase its air traffic control efficiency to ease traffic congestion at the two airports.

The flight delays happened first from 5 am to 7 am.

Aerothai vice-president Thinnakorn Chuwong said the delay was because the traffic controller introduced the adjusted air traffic management system for use in the first day.

This resulted in air traffic congestion at Don Mueang and Suvarnabhumi airports, while unfavourable weather conditions, also added to longer flight delays, he said.

He said of the 85 flights affected, 51 flights were at Suvarnabhumi airport and 34 flights at Don Mueang airport.

He said the longest delay was at Suvarvabhumi which took one hour and 45 minutes and at Don Muang 1.30 hours.

But he said the situation had returned to normal at noon today.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/157712

-- Thai PBS 2016-03-31

Lannig · March 31, 2016

New air traffic control station software so well deployed that it causes this kind of delays would make me nervous in any airport in the world.

But in Thailand...

55Jay · March 31, 2016

I wonder if things were back to normal by noon because they reverted to the previous, existing system.

worgeordie · March 31, 2016

Seems to be working well

regards Worgeorie

NCC1701A · March 31, 2016

"Aerothai vice-president Thinnakorn Chuwong said the delay was because the traffic controller introduced the adjusted air traffic management system for use in the first day."

yikes... nothing like on the job training.

"Ho Lee Fuk! What is Windows 8? Where is the Start menu? What do?"

55Jay · March 31, 2016

"Aerothai vice-president Thinnakorn Chuwong said the delay was because the traffic controller introduced the adjusted air traffic management system for use in the first day."

yikes... nothing like on the job training.

"Ho Lee Fuk! What is Windows 8? Where is the Start menu? What do?"

It was an upgrade from XP to Vista.

monty1412 · March 31, 2016

Thai 72 to Tower

Tower here TL 72

We are heavy at Bravo 12 approach awaiting instructions

Ahh hold for a moment TL72....

..

Ahh TL 72 this is Tower

Go ahead Tower

TL 72 where did you say you are .....

Tower we are at Bravo 12.....

..

Again please TL 72

Tower WE ARE AT BRAVO 12

Ahh TL 72...... thanks for that but I dont show a Bravo 12 approach here at Don Muang,

..

Oh shit you dont think they sent the Suvarnabhumi program here by mistake do you and they are running Don Muang program there ???

Sorry what was that Tower??

Forget it TL72 I didn't realise it was on open mike.... forget you heard that OK....

TL72.. this is Tower

Roger Tower

TL 72 please turn right or left whatever looks good to you....then takeoff if its still looking good.. proceed in upwardly direction after that ....

Roger Tower TL72 out....

55Jay · March 31, 2016

Thai 72 to Tower

Tower here TL 72

We are heavy at Bravo 12 approach awaiting instructions

Ahh hold for a moment TL72....

..

..

..

..

..

Ahh TL 72 this is Tower

Go ahead Tower

TL 72 where did you say you are .....

Tower we are at Bravo 12.....

..

..

Again please TL 72

Tower WE ARE AT BRAVO 12

Ahh TL 72...... thanks for that but I dont show a Bravo 12 approach here at Don Muang,

..

..

..

Oh shit you dont think they sent the Suvarnabhumi program here by mistake do you and they are running Don Muang program there ???

Sorry what was that Tower??

Forget it TL72 I didn't realise it was on open mike.... forget you heard that OK....

TL72.. this is Tower

Roger Tower

TL 72 please turn right or left whatever looks good to you....then takeoff if its still looking good.. proceed in upwardly direction after that ....

Roger Tower TL72 out....

I got a pretty good chuckle out of that. "upwardly direction". I'm still laughing. Thanks.

RabC · March 31, 2016

Certainly doesn't look like it was cured by noon, if you look at the 1:00pm departures to Europe, most delayed by at least 1 hour.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do

thaiowl · March 31, 2016

My son is a pilot and was delayed for 1hr 51mins out of DMK this morning. He was number 19 in the queue to take off.

Micbozy · March 31, 2016

When they say you'll need 4 training sessions for your staffs when upgrading a system, better make it 10 sessions instead.

55Jay · March 31, 2016

Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller".

1happykamper · March 31, 2016

Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller".

I am afraid to look.

55Jay · March 31, 2016

Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller".
I am afraid to look.

You won't regret. Trust me....

natway09 · March 31, 2016

This is actually a big upgrade & has been coming for some 3 years.

Similar congestion was experienced at Narita for 2 days when they introduced it.

Bit more difficult here also as had to be both airports as the are in fairly close proximity

All OK now?

1happykamper · March 31, 2016

Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller".
I am afraid to look.

You won't regret. Trust me....

OMB. Yep it was as bad as I thought. .. certainly great material for a Faulty Towers episode... I'll take bus back to England thanks.

fbf · March 31, 2016

Oh joy, I'm flying UTH-BKK tomorrow and BKK-DOH-LHR on Saturday. Should be "fun".

Sunderland · March 31, 2016

My wife speaks and understands English pretty well and worked onboard Emirates for 11 years. She had no idea what the air traffic controller said in English on that BKK Post video.

Looks like it is as efficiently run as the immigration department, the courts and the anti-corruption campaign.

TallGuyJohninBKK · March 31, 2016

I believe part of the problem here, is when the aeronautical folks when out looking for a new ATC system, no one told them it didn't stand for:

Automated Tuk-tuk Control.

macksview · March 31, 2016

My wife speaks and understands English pretty well and worked onboard Emirates for 11 years. She had no idea what the air traffic controller said in English on that BKK Post video.

Looks like it is as efficiently run as the immigration department, the courts and the anti-corruption campaign.

your mrs knows too much, i dont think i would fly again with the stories she could tell.

marcusd · March 31, 2016

Thai 72 to Tower

Tower here TL 72

We are heavy at Bravo 12 approach awaiting instructions

Ahh hold for a moment TL72....

..

..

..

..

..

Ahh TL 72 this is Tower

Go ahead Tower

TL 72 where did you say you are .....

Tower we are at Bravo 12.....

..

..

Again please TL 72

Tower WE ARE AT BRAVO 12

Ahh TL 72...... thanks for that but I dont show a Bravo 12 approach here at Don Muang,

..

..

..

Oh shit you dont think they sent the Suvarnabhumi program here by mistake do you and they are running Don Muang program there ???

Sorry what was that Tower??

Forget it TL72 I didn't realise it was on open mike.... forget you heard that OK....

TL72.. this is Tower

Roger Tower

TL 72 please turn right or left whatever looks good to you....then takeoff if its still looking good.. proceed in upwardly direction after that ....

Roger Tower TL72 out....

Nok air anyone hahahah

naboo · March 31, 2016

My wife's 16:50 flight out of Don Muang to Chiang Mai arrived at 19:10. She was on board at 17:00, so they must have been waiting on the tarmac an hour.

bluemoonpattaya · March 31, 2016

I'm flying out of U-Tapao airport ( Pattaya ) tomorrow, which only handles 14 aircraft a day. That's about 1 every 45 mins

The only flight system required is a pair of binoculars.

krabi local · March 31, 2016

Certainly not all fixed by noon.

My 1415 flight to Krabi left at 1605

ZeldasCavern · March 31, 2016

Can't link to it here but Google "Life of a Bangkok Air Traffic Controller".
I am afraid to look.

You won't regret. Trust me....

OMB. Yep it was as bad as I thought. .. certainly great material for a Faulty Towers episode... I'll take bus back to England thanks.

OMG...

wayned · March 31, 2016

I wonder if things were back to normal by noon because they reverted to the previous, existing system.

They couldn't go back to the old system as they had already taken the stone tablets to the stone quarry to make gravel for the planned runway expansion!

fbf · April 1, 2016

My 12.45 UTH-BKK delayed by 30 mins due to late inbound. Not exactly a nightmare but I've usually found these flights very punctual.

nottocus · April 1, 2016

My Vientiane to BKK flight was delayed by 70 minutes yesterday because the plane from BKK to Vientiane was late arriving.

Sat on a bloody Thai Air plane to HK from 6.30 to 7.30 p.m. yesterday. On the tarmac, hot as hell, waiting to take off.

harrry · April 1, 2016

I guess it is a case of when the developers asked them if they had seen the manual and the training manual the controllers pointed at the shrink wrapped books in the corner of the room and said: "Of course we have seen them....they are over there."

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