Namplik Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Surprise launch by Honda on the Vietnam Motorshow The Honda Winner 150 looks to be a direct competitor to the Yamaha Exiter. http://paultan.org/2016/04/07/2016-honda-winner-150-launched-in-vietnam/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) This 150cc under bone market is getting interesting. Honda just announced the "Winner" here in Vietnam. Corny name aside, it looks pretty good. http://paultan.org/2016/04/07/2016-honda-winner-150-launched-in-vietnam/ Big tires, 6 speed, 150cc motor. If this is priced the same as the Exciter I think it will do very well. I'd imagine Thailand would have this bike shortly after the release here. I also see Suzuki has the fuel injected raider out now. A few countries have the Honda Sonic but these bikes look too small for your average foreigner. I was just about to purchase the Yamaha exciter, but now I think I'll wait until June to see one of these Honda Winners. What do you think? Edited April 8, 2016 by Still Living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issanman Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Either wait for the new fuel-injected Suzuki or buy the Yamaha now. I wouldn't wait for the Honda. That's what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I'm assuming the raider is the same size as it always was. Just too small unfortunately. The Exciter is barely big enough. This Honda looks good! A little bigger then the Exciter. Heavier too, which is unfortunate. I like that fat front tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issanman Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 In the last three years, I have bought two new Hondas (Wave and Spacy) and one new Yamaha (GT125). My next small bike will almost certainly be another Yamaha. The small Hondas are very useful appliances, but they handle very poorly compared to the Yamaha. Way more fun riding the Yamaha and the superior handling feels safer. I can go full-speed on the Yamaha with no wobble. The Hondas are not nearly as steady as the Yamaha, at any speed. I paid almost the exact same price for all three of them. 43-44 thousand. No more small Hondas for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinEddie Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Yamaha Exciter and now the Honda Winner should have gone with clip-ons with these bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namplik Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 In the last three years, I have bought two new Hondas (Wave and Spacy) and one new Yamaha (GT125). My next small bike will almost certainly be another Yamaha. The small Hondas are very useful appliances, but they handle very poorly compared to the Yamaha. Way more fun riding the Yamaha and the superior handling feels safer. I can go full-speed on the Yamaha with no wobble. The Hondas are not nearly as steady as the Yamaha, at any speed. I paid almost the exact same price for all three of them. 43-44 thousand. No more small Hondas for me. Did you buy your Hondas with steel spokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issanman Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 The Honda Wave I bought came with factory mag wheels. I put mag wheels on the Honda Spacy shortly after buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) The Exciter is a great bike and I still might buy one. Just waiting to hear the price on the winner. I like the overall bigger size. Larger front tire, led headlight, and Kickstarter. The Viet Exciter has no kick starter. ? It's also a more mature looking bike. The race boy graphics on the Exciter put me off. And the rear end is a mess with those Christmas tree bulb turn signals and bulky two piece fender. That would get changed immediately. The winner is basically a wave with a CBR150 engine. I think it's a "winner". Hopefully its the same price as the competition. Edited April 8, 2016 by Still Living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 6-speed touche' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 6-speed touche' How is that better? I really don't know so please educate me. I figured it's just one more click my foot has to do in traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 6-speed touche' How is that better? I really don't know so please educate me. I figured it's just one more click my foot has to do in traffic. 1. More gears ==> increased performance & efficiency. 2. Thanks for saying 'please.' 3. a. good exercise. b. 6th is for the hi-way, not traffic. c. or try a twist 'n' go i) very popular ii) much less physical or mental effort required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 What do i think? Hideous - all of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oval Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I wonder if anyone will release a 150cc auto underbone that isn't fat and fugly (ie. pcx and nmax). Something slim and trim like the exciter/winner but automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I wonder if anyone will release a 150cc auto underbone that isn't fat and fugly (ie. pcx and nmax). Something slim and trim like the exciter/winner but automatic. Good idea. AirBladeMax. w/ 16" wheels. Or NouvoSport150fi Honda also had an full auto Wave110 a while back. Didn't sell well. Much decreased fuel economy vs. auto-clutch 110. Still had to maintain a chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbas400 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 for travelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AllanB Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) Not a version of the Exciter, it's a facsimile. Will anyone on this continent do anything original?..... I can just see the pencil-necked bean-counters, beavering away in Honda's design department and coming up this this. It should be banned and they should be hung drawn and quartered for lack of imagination. Edited June 6, 2016 by AllanB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbas400 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 this is same for all brands, all models...for cars, motorcycles, clothes, smarphones.... it s a mix between copy & inspiration & technology & cost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 6-speed touche' Many years ago I hankered after a Cagiva Mito as it had a 7-speed gearbox. Then one day while riding in Indonesia i caught up with the bus and on the back it said "Mercedes 9-Speed" After that the hankering for 7 was not so strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanB Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) this is same for all brands, all models...for cars, motorcycles, clothes, smarphones.... it s a mix between copy & inspiration & technology & cost.... Rubbish! It has nothing to do with cost, it is pure laziness and lack of imagination...string the buggas up for producing a ringer. the only reason they don't sue for copyright infringement is because they all do it. In the old days they would have committed harry carry for this disgraceful behaviour, so much for modern Japan. Edited June 7, 2016 by AllanB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oval Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Are these to be sold in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Just got a call from Honda. My local shop here in Vietnam got them in. I will buy one and do a proper review. Was going to buy the exciter but the winner is better looking and has better specs. Glad they have some accessories for it. Need that rear rack for a shad box. I think it will be a great city commuter / touring bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 papa actually likes this. Takes me back to my first bike purchase here Nouvo135. With only 300km. on the clock, lashed on a medium sized suitcase and duffle, took off from Chiangmai to Buriram. Swell except for having to un- & re-lash at each frequent fueling. Small tank, gas-hog at speed. Small under-seat tanks maybe not optimal for adventure turing, dunno. Nice red & black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKJmMN1Q74g papa actually likes this.Takes me back to my first bike purchase here Nouvo135. With only 300km. on the clock, lashed on a medium sized suitcase and duffle, took off from Chiangmai to Buriram. Swell except for having to un- & re-lash at each frequent fueling. Small tank, gas-hog at speed. Small under-seat tanks maybe not optimal for adventure turing, dunno. Nice red & black. Totally agree. I did the same. All over Vietnam and Cambodia on a clapped out Nouvo. Suitcase bungeed onto the back seat. Fun times but I won't do that again. The small tank sucks but hopefully with a nice top box and a medium sized back pack strapped between your knees you can ride comfortably for most mid range trips. Gas up easy and have a pretty partner on the back too. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbas400 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Price is 46 000 000 dong in Vietnam..... like 72 000 THB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oval Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I cannot see any information suggesting this model will be released in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbas400 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 nobody knows if soon in Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Living Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Finally checked out the Honda Winner. Very disappointed to say that it doesn't fit me. Super cramped for a tall person and the seat has an aggressive "hump" that pushes you forward. Sigh.... The overall dimensions are larger then the Yamaha Exciter but it feels much smaller for some reason. Must be the seat and foot peg positions. The people at Honda even laughed at me while I was sitting on it. Oh well... Funny that the Wave 110 felt more comfortable then the winner. Maybe I'll buy that and save $1,200... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbas400 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 i can understand ! i m tall too i did a trip south to north Vietnam with honda wave 110 cc.... during 3600 kms...without problems....except i need more power but comfortable bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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