Victims' families seek premeditated murder charge for Mercedes driver over fatal crash

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Victims' families seek premeditated murder charge for Mercedes driver over fatal crash
By Coconuts Bangkok


Jenphop Weeraporn's Mercedes flipped over after he slammed it into another car, killing two motorists inside. Photo: JS100

BANGKOK: -- Police have been asked to consider a charge of premeditated murder against the Mercedes-Benz driver involved a fatal high-speed car crash last month that killed two students in Ayutthaya.

Thivakorn Horsaeng, father of Thanthaphat Horsaeng, and Thongthip Thaworn, mother of Kritsana Thaworn, met with Pol. Col. Pitsanu Tapinta to demand that police file a premeditated murder charge against Jenphop Weeraporn.

Jenphop, 37, was reportedly driving at an estimated speed of over 200 kph when he crashed his Mercedes-Benz into the back of another car, killing Kritsana, 32, and Thanthapat, 34, both masters’ graduates from Mahachulalongkornrajavidyalaya University.

Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/04/20/victims-families-seek-premeditated-murder-charge-mercedes-driver-over-fatal-crash


-- Coconuts Bangkok 2016-04-20

[thesetat2013]

He can't he charged with premeditated. He didn't think about or plan to kill someone. Which I believe are prerequisites for that charge. I don't believe it will matter anyway. This guy's too rich to ever see the inside of a prison. More likely, he will become a monk for a couple months to atone for his actions and make a lot of payoffs to the families to get the pressure off of him.

[WhizBang]

Murder, yes, but premeditated, I think not.

If he was on drugs or medication of some kind, then a charge of manslaughter or even muder would be appropriate. Either way, this rich kid needs to be locked away as he is a serious danger to society.

But then, why do I get the feeling that the police will drag thier feet once again, and nothing will be done?

[kmj]

He can't he charged with premeditated. He didn't think about or plan to kill someone. Which I believe are prerequisites for that charge. I don't believe it will matter anyway. This guy's too rich to ever see the inside of a prison. More likely, he will become a monk for a couple months to atone for his actions and make a lot of payoffs to the families to get the pressure off of him.

When negotiating alway start higher then you're expecting to get.

Edited April 20, 2016 by kmj

[canuckamuck]

Should be charged as an oxygen thief.

[scorecard]

In another report today it's mentioned the police investigation team interviewed the perp yesterday.

So much for the deputy national police commissioner being put in charge of this case 2 weeks ago and ordering that the case be speeded up.

Nothing changes.

Sack 90% of the police force (100% at the top) and install the 2,000+ army officers already given authority to work as investigators etc.

Until there is a major shake up of the police nothing is going to change or improve.

[billd766]

Murder, yes, but premeditated, I think not.

If he was on drugs or medication of some kind, then a charge of manslaughter or even muder would be appropriate. Either way, this rich kid needs to be locked away as he is a serious danger to society.

But then, why do I get the feeling that the police will drag thier feet once again, and nothing will be done?

IMHO there is a slow move against people like him that is being carried out by the social media. The more it gets publicised the less chance he will have in the courts.

I thinks that this one is being cast adrift to survive or not and most of the public are against him.

Simply by causing the "accident" he brought up the Red Bull case and also the stupid girl who killed 9 other people in a minivan. The police are starting to ask awkward questions among the higher up echelons now.

Personally I think that he should be given a life sentence for each death but to run consecutively and not concurrently so if he gets a 50% reduction for "confessing" he still has another life sentence to go in addition to any other punishments.

[Artisi]

I wouldn't hold my breath for any outcome acceptable to anyone but him and his family. The best outcome would be for this <deleted> to have his breath forceably withheld for the appropriate time

[GAZZPA]

He can't he charged with premeditated. He didn't think about or plan to kill someone. Which I believe are prerequisites for that charge. I don't believe it will matter anyway. This guy's too rich to ever see the inside of a prison. More likely, he will become a monk for a couple months to atone for his actions and make a lot of payoffs to the families to get the pressure off of him.

When negotiating alway start higher then you're expecting to get.

There is no negotiation, it will be either yes or no.

The man should be charged with manslaughter as well as the additional chargers listed, he should also be in jail for a spell for sure.

I guess we will know soon enough, or the story will simply disappear and nobody will really know what happened.

[razer]

He can't he charged with premeditated. He didn't think about or plan to kill someone. Which I believe are prerequisites for that charge. I don't believe it will matter anyway. This guy's too rich to ever see the inside of a prison. More likely, he will become a monk for a couple months to atone for his actions and make a lot of payoffs to the families to get the pressure off of him.

Prosecutor's trick. If the prosecution wants to let someone off the hook he files charges that can be proven untrue.

Manslaughter will result in a conviction. Negligent Homicide will result in a conviction. Homicide with a motor vehicle will result in a conviction. Premeditated murder won't.

[koolkarl]

"Premeditated murder charge" is just an excuse to show public that something is being done.

Public has no idea what premeditated murder is.

Of course such a charge would never go anywhere.

[robertthebruce]

How sad, today I saw the photograph of the young couple who were killed , both beautiful and so young, with so much to live for..

Do something before he Jets off to Singapore where the other Murderer went... Shame on them....,

[mrrizzla]

What is the latest with him anyway? Still receiving "treatment"?

[Katipo]

It seems the victims' families are not so easily bought off. Good for them. I hope they can get the satisfaction of at least some justice.

I am also pleased to see this is still making the news.

[dotpoom]

He can't he charged with premeditated. He didn't think about or plan to kill someone. Which I believe are prerequisites for that charge. I don't believe it will matter anyway. This guy's too rich to ever see the inside of a prison. More likely, he will become a monk for a couple months to atone for his actions and make a lot of payoffs to the families to get the pressure off of him.

Not sure one can be certain about what another person's thinking was at a particular time. If you are correct, then you are saying it is not possible to plan and carry out the deaths of two people (and possible suicide) by driving your vehicle (a lethal weapon, similar to a gun as we are often reminded) into theirs at 200 klm an hour.

[SOTIRIOS]

......is this a ploy to get him off.....???

.....murder is enough......

...to add the onus of proving premeditation is unnecessary and ill-advised......

[tonypace02]

I know it is so in the U.S., but I do not know if it so in Thailand: causing the death of a person while in the act of committing a felony can bring a charge of first degree murder. For example, in a small bank, a robber fires a gun at the ceiling to get everybody's attention and cast fear. The event so traumatizes a 70 year old man that he dies of a heart attack. Despite the fact that the robber had no intention of physical harm, the shooting of the gun being the direct action that brought on the heart attack, the robber can be charged with first degree murder. In the local case, the highly moral PM has granted himself the power to make that a law here if he so chooses and make it retroactive to the day before the accident or to erase the law if he so chooses making the existence or non-existence of such a law as moot.

[Artisi]

Disregarding the law by driving drunk, under the influence of drugs, exceeding the speed limit is paramount to a pre-meditated offence - - he was well aware that he would have been breaking the law,therefore it was a pre- meditated act.

[Happy Grumpy]

Murder, yes, but premeditated, I think not.

Murder, no.

He didn't intend to kill anyone, obviously.

His choice of dangerous actions did end up killing two people though, manslaughter.

But different in Thai law no doubt. Payment, monkhood, big wais, continue as you like.

[scorecard]

Murder, yes, but premeditated, I think not.

If he was on drugs or medication of some kind, then a charge of manslaughter or even muder would be appropriate. Either way, this rich kid needs to be locked away as he is a serious danger to society.

But then, why do I get the feeling that the police will drag thier feet once again, and nothing will be done?

IMHO there is a slow move against people like him that is being carried out by the social media. The more it gets publicised the less chance he will have in the courts.

I thinks that this one is being cast adrift to survive or not and most of the public are against him.

Simply by causing the "accident" he brought up the Red Bull case and also the stupid girl who killed 9 other people in a minivan. The police are starting to ask awkward questions among the higher up echelons now.

Personally I think that he should be given a life sentence for each death but to run consecutively and not concurrently so if he gets a 50% reduction for "confessing" he still has another life sentence to go in addition to any other punishments.

Agree.

I wonder if the police (all the police) are still hamstrung by being under the control of and frightened of nasty, ruthless, immoral, powerful and very influential people.

[little mary sunshine]

If I was home, I would have a couple

Of guys from NJ look this guy up and this

Problem would be settled,,,,the victim's families

Would appreciate their visit to this scumbag.

[simonuk]

There is zero will amongst the lawmakers and the elite of Thailand to change a system and police force that provides impunity to the rich.

Simply because it is them and their families that benifit from it.

The police are simply there to keep the masses in their place.

One law for the masses and another for the influential

No problem if you are influential .

[thai3]

If I was home, I would have a couple

Of guys from NJ look this guy up and this

Problem would be settled,,,,the victim's families

Would appreciate their visit to this scumbag.

I believe in America!

[kennw]

Murder, yes, but premeditated, I think not.

If he was on drugs or medication of some kind, then a charge of manslaughter or even muder would be appropriate. Either way, this rich kid needs to be locked away as he is a serious danger to society.

But then, why do I get the feeling that the police will drag thier feet once again, and nothing will be done?

IMHO there is a slow move against people like him that is being carried out by the social media. The more it gets publicised the less chance he will have in the courts.

I thinks that this one is being cast adrift to survive or not and most of the public are against him.

Simply by causing the "accident" he brought up the Red Bull case and also the stupid girl who killed 9 other people in a minivan. The police are starting to ask awkward questions among the higher up echelons now.

Personally I think that he should be given a life sentence for each death but to run consecutively and not concurrently so if he gets a 50% reduction for "confessing" he still has another life sentence to go in addition to any other punishments.

Agree.

I wonder if the police (all the police) are still hamstrung by being under the control of and frightened of nasty, ruthless, immoral, powerful and very influential people.

Yes the top echelon of the police who are empowered the group to enforce civil law, But do they? If not who else should move in?

[swerver]

Disregarding the law by driving drunk, under the influence of drugs, exceeding the speed limit is paramount to a pre-meditated offence - - he was well aware that he would have been breaking the law,therefore it was a pre- meditated act.

Who said he was well aware...???

Rich guys in their Mercs DO NOT THINK.

If they did think then they would drive within the law and 200+++ KPH definitely is NOT within the Law.

He has shown by what he did he is an irresponsible (not grownup kid in an adult body) being irresponsible and a proven danger to the rest of the public it is then the responsibility of the government to remove him out of society.

Having problems with his thinking (brain) he then has to be put in a mental asylum for the rest of his life.

Furthermore, there also maybe a case against Daimler Benz the manufacturer of vehicles that far EXCEED the legal speed limits on the Hiway for selling these vehicles to a person with mental deficiencies.

This hen in turn brings us to the Department of Motor vehicles (DMV) by being guilty for issuing a DL to a person with mental deficiencies.

The time is way past due to stop these vehicles with Monte Carlo 24-Hour endurance racing speeds to be licensed by government for use on the Hiway of the country to mingle with vehicles manufactured for Hiway Speed Limits.

In the seventies manufacturers and governments seem to come to their senses and promulgating a law the biggest engine for passenger vehicles to be a 283 V8.

Bigger engines were ONLY allowed in trucks and tractors pulling semi-trailers.

But like everything in the world by now has turned to SHIT and out of control. Do you need anymore proof than the recent Paris and Brussels DISASTERS???

[lvr181]

How sad, today I saw the photograph of the young couple who were killed , both beautiful and so young, with so much to live for..

Do something before he Jets off to Singapore where the other Murderer went... Shame on them....,

Perhaps Thailand is not smart enough to have an extradition agreement with Singapore? I am sure an offence like that in Singapore would be jail time?

Maybe Singapore would "suggest" to Thai authorities to apply to have the Red Bull heir returned under police escort to Thailand? Oooops....forgot that money transcends justice.

I'm not sure if I am a cynic or a realist or just a dreamer.

[tigermoth]

It seems the victims' families are not so easily bought off. Good for them. I hope they can get the satisfaction of at least some justice.

I am also pleased to see this is still making the news.

It is good that it is making news and thus not disappearing like most other high profile cases. But as far as family not being bought off I very much doubt. A charge of premeditated murder would get dismissed as it clearly was not premeditated thus offering a way out for all. Justice, what a farce.

[cgphuket]

When you get drunk and drive 200 kph, you should expect to kill someone. I hope the charges stick.

[koolkarl]

The victim's families must have some pull and so this issue is still alive.

If victim's families have no money or pull, this matter would just disappear.

If it was my son who was killed, it would have been settled the biblical way.

[hobobo]

What is the latest with him anyway? Still receiving "treatment"?

It was a really bad case of flu, didn't you know?