Tywais Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I'm sure this topic will get some 'entertaining' replies considering it is a food topic. However, play nice guys. 10 Of Chiang Mai Best Restaurants – Secrets Revealed By An Insider Chiang Mai is known for having amazing food and has almost as many restaurants as residents. Specialising in Northern Thai cuisine, which is richer and spicier than traditional Thai dishes, there are also options to try almost every other type of cuisine in town. While this list includes 10 of the most delicious restaurants in Chiang Mai there are countless more left for travellers to discover. Here’s a little tip on how to find good food in Chiang Mai – is the restaurant full with customers? If yes then it’s a great sign. And secondly, are the customers mostly Thai? Thai’s love their food and you can find them talking about and enjoying good food all over Chiang Mai, especially in the following 10 restaurants! Full article here - blog.eoasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglechef Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Besides the author's non-committal recommendations by saying "one of the ..", "possibly" etc. and that the first sentence states that "Chiang Mai has almost as many restaurants as residents" gives the article absolutely no credibility. I've been to 9 out of 10 and would not rate any of them in my top 10 Another delicious tidbits: "tastiest Thai food in town, such as shrimp wrapped in bacon" LOL Edited May 4, 2016 by junglechef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Another digital nomad best of list of 10 places.. Surely there must be a visa class for contributions to society of this excellence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I fear that when a writer lists 10 places and refers to the food as 'amazing' in most of them (or 'awesome, come to that) that the reporter has no personal experience of the specifics of the eats. And even less about how to write with clarity and meaning. Nevertheless, I'm looking up a few of my favorites by way of starting a chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 better reviews on LET IT BE MAERIM PLAZA thread,and certainly more entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Sandwich shop in the "Top 10"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhonKaenKowboy Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Sandwich shop in the "Top 10"?? and a burger place, and a fried chicken place....maybe it's targeting 12 year olds. Oh, and The Swan sure as heck isn't full of Thais or anyone else. I'm surprised there wasn't some fine Cana-Mex mentioned. Edited May 4, 2016 by KhonKaenKowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
212Roger Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I enjoy the restaurant's pet cat at Dash. Nice grass and gardens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
off road pat Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Anyone who makes a list of the 10 best restaurants in Chiang Mai doesn't know Chiang Mai and knows only those restaurants....so futile..... Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrunfree Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Don't know about most of the rest, but Mix is certainly in my top 5. But where is S&P Chicken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I fear that when a writer lists 10 places and refers to the food as 'amazing' in most of them (or 'awesome, come to that) that the reporter has no personal experience of the specifics of the eats. And even less about how to write with clarity and meaning. Nevertheless, I'm looking up a few of my favorites by way of starting a chase. Yet your missing the point of clickbait articles.. They are not designed to be read, they are designed to have a catchy title, to have a good header image which gets picked up by facebook and other social sharing sites, and be just interesting enough for someone to click through to gain page impressions, for advertising sales. Content simply doesnt matter, it is in fact far secondary (or worse) than add views, ad placement, etc.. In fact if the reader gets bored halfway down the list, even better if they lose interest but click through to an actual advert, wohoo another 10c made.. Thinking that the 1000s of nomad made blogs are done in any way to provide decent travel information is totally missing the point. The idea is to churn out 10 of them a day, with titles to catch the most eyeballs, 10 best drinks to order in Zoe... 10 best coffee shops within walking distance of my 4000 baht room... 10 best places to get laundry done.. 10 best ways to slowly kill an annoying blogger.. Its the dumbing down of the whole thing in a race to the bottom as everyone competes for clickbait. Sad thing is, there are some great travel writers blogging (check out Vanya Vetto and his blog / ebook Garudas travels, actual, proper, writing !! Real humanity and street life in SE Asia) but they are being swamped by this kind of clickbait nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrafarang Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I never understand why Davids Kitchen appears in any of these lists as I think their food is average at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglechef Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Because it's #1 CM restaurant on Trip Advisor out of 1456 places It got 1299 reviews: 988 Excellent, 98 Very Good and 29 combines for the next three lower categories Is that unbelievable? Yes very much so, I don't believe it for a second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglechef Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I fear that when a writer lists 10 places and refers to the food as 'amazing' in most of them (or 'awesome, come to that) that the reporter has no personal experience of the specifics of the eats. And even less about how to write with clarity and meaning. Nevertheless, I'm looking up a few of my favorites by way of starting a chase. Yet your missing the point of clickbait articles.. They are not designed to be read, they are designed to have a catchy title, to have a good header image which gets picked up by facebook and other social sharing sites, and be just interesting enough for someone to click through to gain page impressions, for advertising sales. Content simply doesnt matter, it is in fact far secondary (or worse) than add views, ad placement, etc.. In fact if the reader gets bored halfway down the list, even better if they lose interest but click through to an actual advert, wohoo another 10c made.. Thinking that the 1000s of nomad made blogs are done in any way to provide decent travel information is totally missing the point. The idea is to churn out 10 of them a day, with titles to catch the most eyeballs, 10 best drinks to order in Zoe... 10 best coffee shops within walking distance of my 4000 baht room... 10 best places to get laundry done.. 10 best ways to slowly kill an annoying blogger.. Its the dumbing down of the whole thing in a race to the bottom as everyone competes for clickbait. Sad thing is, there are some great travel writers blogging (check out Vanya Vetto and his blog / ebook Garudas travels, actual, proper, writing !! Real humanity and street life in SE Asia) but they are being swamped by this kind of clickbait nonsense. I'm intrigued by how this stuff works but honestly don't really understand it. Would you mind telling one of the before digital generation what you mean by "page impressions" You also mention clicking an actual advert but I don't see any to click in the article under discussion except one small mention of a cooking class. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dru2 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I never understand why Davids Kitchen appears in any of these lists as I think their food is average at best It's at least partly because David comes to each and every table and asks the diners to recommend him on Trip Advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMX Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Ignoring utterly and intentionally the clickbait issue, I submit one place that is no secret: HUEN JAI YONG I suggest it because OP meant, I think, to start a hare - here's one: It qualifies absolutely as a candidate because - A. It is truly Lanna authentic - check it out (don't ignore frog) B. It is almost always jam-packed, virtually all of the customers being Thais *unless a small bus brings visitors; going for lunch for me means arriving there at 11:30 Note: I rarely go there in hot season, but otherwise it's a rare month when I don't drive out there. I defy anybody to challenge this place for the 2 qualities mentioned, A and B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB24 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I fear that when a writer lists 10 places and refers to the food as 'amazing' in most of them (or 'awesome, come to that) that the reporter has no personal experience of the specifics of the eats. And even less about how to write with clarity and meaning. Nevertheless, I'm looking up a few of my favorites by way of starting a chase. Yet your missing the point of clickbait articles.. They are not designed to be read, they are designed to have a catchy title, to have a good header image which gets picked up by facebook and other social sharing sites, and be just interesting enough for someone to click through to gain page impressions, for advertising sales. Content simply doesnt matter, it is in fact far secondary (or worse) than add views, ad placement, etc.. In fact if the reader gets bored halfway down the list, even better if they lose interest but click through to an actual advert, wohoo another 10c made.. Thinking that the 1000s of nomad made blogs are done in any way to provide decent travel information is totally missing the point. The idea is to churn out 10 of them a day, with titles to catch the most eyeballs, 10 best drinks to order in Zoe... 10 best coffee shops within walking distance of my 4000 baht room... 10 best places to get laundry done.. 10 best ways to slowly kill an annoying blogger.. Its the dumbing down of the whole thing in a race to the bottom as everyone competes for clickbait. Sad thing is, there are some great travel writers blogging (check out Vanya Vetto and his blog / ebook Garudas travels, actual, proper, writing !! Real humanity and street life in SE Asia) but they are being swamped by this kind of clickbait nonsense. I'm intrigued by how this stuff works but honestly don't really understand it. Would you mind telling one of the before digital generation what you mean by "page impressions" You also mention clicking an actual advert but I don't see any to click in the article under discussion except one small mention of a cooking class. Thanks From someone who is also from the 'middle' of the last century, but lucky enough to have worked in IT for 35 years, I offer this explanation in 'our' words. The original post is designed to be picked up by the social media sites - these sites automatically 'trend' whatever people are looking at - and send this info to all their 'customers' (based on their demographic, age, location, history, etc etc etc). The site (business) is then credited with lots of 'hits' from people reading the article - more readers = more hits. The business then charges for advertising based on its numbers of site hits - more hits = more money for ads. The business does not write good/decent product - they write whatever catches the eye of a brain dead loser who has nothing better to do than click on khrapp all day (read mainly young people). When you see all those young people sitting with their smartphone stuck in their face - they are either sending/receiving khrapp from 'friends' via social media sites, or they are reading khrapp on websites recommended by their chosen social media site (facebook especially). Facebook makes money from their own ads and from sending their customers to other websites - not much each time, but at 100million a day it only takes 0.01c each and they get lots of money. The sad things is the young people do not realise that their activity is all about making money - and they do not care a rats rear about whether it is good for them or not. It is also sad to see their social skills totally lacking - they have no real world understanding these days. We used to stop kids watching TV all day because we knew it was bad for them - the poor kids of today are 'caught' because the parents/adults cant stop them on their phones. YEP - this area of the IT industry is profiting from screwing up our young people - from Apple to Facebook and all in between. Not positive about what this means for the future - hopefully the business model will crash and burn soon (like dot.com myspace etc.). Hopefully young people will soon realise they are just tools for businesses to make money - and very profitable money too. Mobile network profitability is HUGE - big capital setup costs and then sit back and rake it all in. Apple profitability is HUGE - guess how much to make one Iphone in China??? Less than $20USD !!!! Best example of IT profits now China involved: Go to shop and buy a power cord - $5 ? Buy 20,000 from China factory - $0.25 each !!!! Same across ALL hardware components - but prices still go up and up (with profits). In the 80s/90s IT was a great industry and advances made were good for people - now it is just awful for people (but good for business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Here is a picture of what I ate today. youtube views at 100!!!! I am now the expert!!! Now get some coffee and pay close attention, I will tell you the secrets to CM* *I have spent 11 minutes in the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I fear that when a writer lists 10 places and refers to the food as 'amazing' in most of them (or 'awesome, come to that) that the reporter has no personal experience of the specifics of the eats. And even less about how to write with clarity and meaning. Nevertheless, I'm looking up a few of my favorites by way of starting a chase. Yet your missing the point of clickbait articles.. They are not designed to be read, they are designed to have a catchy title, to have a good header image which gets picked up by facebook and other social sharing sites, and be just interesting enough for someone to click through to gain page impressions, for advertising sales. Content simply doesnt matter, it is in fact far secondary (or worse) than add views, ad placement, etc.. In fact if the reader gets bored halfway down the list, even better if they lose interest but click through to an actual advert, wohoo another 10c made.. Thinking that the 1000s of nomad made blogs are done in any way to provide decent travel information is totally missing the point. The idea is to churn out 10 of them a day, with titles to catch the most eyeballs, 10 best drinks to order in Zoe... 10 best coffee shops within walking distance of my 4000 baht room... 10 best places to get laundry done.. 10 best ways to slowly kill an annoying blogger.. Its the dumbing down of the whole thing in a race to the bottom as everyone competes for clickbait. Sad thing is, there are some great travel writers blogging (check out Vanya Vetto and his blog / ebook Garudas travels, actual, proper, writing !! Real humanity and street life in SE Asia) but they are being swamped by this kind of clickbait nonsense. I'm intrigued by how this stuff works but honestly don't really understand it. Would you mind telling one of the before digital generation what you mean by "page impressions" You also mention clicking an actual advert but I don't see any to click in the article under discussion except one small mention of a cooking class. Thanks Go back to the article and run your mouse slowly around and the whole thing is alive with potential "clicks' much the same as TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSiemReaper Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 At least one of those places wouldn't make my top 10 restaurants in Chiang Mai if there were only 11 restaurants in town. In fairness to the author though; this is what passes for "journalism" nowadays. When the mainstream press can manufacture whole page articles out of Twitter outrage and Reddit threads... this is no worse than any of that. Good luck trying to find somewhere paying enough for someone to become a decent food critic for Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SooKee Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Always makes me smile when someone recommends a Thai, Indian, Italian or whatever restaurant on the basis that lots of Thais, Indians or Italians eat there. There's almost the assumption there that they are all connoisseurs of their national cuisine. It's all subjective of course but I don't count on the food being good at a Thai restaurant just because there's loads of Thais eating there. Many other things could be the draw. Especially cheap Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglechef Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I fear that when a writer lists 10 places and refers to the food as 'amazing' in most of them (or 'awesome, come to that) that the reporter has no personal experience of the specifics of the eats. And even less about how to write with clarity and meaning. Nevertheless, I'm looking up a few of my favorites by way of starting a chase. Yet your missing the point of clickbait articles.. They are not designed to be read, they are designed to have a catchy title, to have a good header image which gets picked up by facebook and other social sharing sites, and be just interesting enough for someone to click through to gain page impressions, for advertising sales. Content simply doesnt matter, it is in fact far secondary (or worse) than add views, ad placement, etc.. In fact if the reader gets bored halfway down the list, even better if they lose interest but click through to an actual advert, wohoo another 10c made.. Thinking that the 1000s of nomad made blogs are done in any way to provide decent travel information is totally missing the point. The idea is to churn out 10 of them a day, with titles to catch the most eyeballs, 10 best drinks to order in Zoe... 10 best coffee shops within walking distance of my 4000 baht room... 10 best places to get laundry done.. 10 best ways to slowly kill an annoying blogger.. Its the dumbing down of the whole thing in a race to the bottom as everyone competes for clickbait. Sad thing is, there are some great travel writers blogging (check out Vanya Vetto and his blog / ebook Garudas travels, actual, proper, writing !! Real humanity and street life in SE Asia) but they are being swamped by this kind of clickbait nonsense. I'm intrigued by how this stuff works but honestly don't really understand it. Would you mind telling one of the before digital generation what you mean by "page impressions" You also mention clicking an actual advert but I don't see any to click in the article under discussion except one small mention of a cooking class. Thanks Go back to the article and run your mouse slowly around and the whole thing is alive with potential "clicks' much the same as TV. I tried this a few times and get nothing, maybe I don't know what "alive" is to recognize it. Also BB24 says "The business then charges for advertising based on its numbers of site hits - more hits = more money for ads" Where are these ads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Post removed due to this forum rule: 25) No public discussion is allowed with regard to advertisements or sponsors, or methods of blocking advertisements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Go back to the article and run your mouse slowly around and the whole thing is alive with potential "clicks' much the same as TV. I tried this a few times and get nothing, maybe I don't know what "alive" is to recognize it. Also BB24 says "The business then charges for advertising based on its numbers of site hits - more hits = more money for ads" Where are these ads? Theres lots of ways to monetize a site, one is selling services either yourself or simply passing it to others to skim the commissions, others is advertizing real services or just adsense farming etc.. To do any of these things well, you need to be high up in google listings, to get high up in listings you need inbound links (among many things, most of which google keeps semi secret and tinkers with constantly.. the secret sauce of SEO ranking) from authority sites.. Hence a shitty article, being shared around 100s or 1000s of times, ends up raising its page rank much more than a really good article, on a badly linked or designed site, which isnt 'shareable'.. If you look at the site involved.. Firstly look at all the social engagement pop ups.. like our page.. our PI Interest, our instagram.. Thats to get you to then eyeball the next crappy written in an hour blog they publish.. Its a numbers game, have 100k followers, maybe 2% may share it... Look at the top right hand of the blog link itself., 'book a tour'.. Look at the footer of the page.. 10 things to do (involving booking tours through their affiliates).. airport transfer (through their affiliates).. trip and tour.. rooms and accommodations (at the places they are linking).. Surely this is all visible even to the non techie naked eye ?? Look at the homepage.. blasting out trips, its all the same stuff regurgitated in very subtly different ways.. The 'blogs' are secondary content to build their page rank, create a higher page view as part of a commissions only system of funneling customers to a travel agent or agents.. Very top of the home page, the checkout and cart system, bottom of the home page supplier log in.. Its all a front for OTAs (online travel agent).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob13 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Internet nomads making money selling garbage to adware companies. Nothing close to journalism here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhonKaenKowboy Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I found this new steak place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SooKee Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 It can't be right if Classic Burger is not on the list. The most mild non-boring burgers in CM Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhonKaenKowboy Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Here is an order of take-away fries from Fat Elvis....yummy, certainly worth a 30 page thread on TVF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedQualia Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Personally, I refuse to patronize restaurants that carve out a 10% "service fee" and a 7% VAT as separate, billable items. In general, restaurants around Thailand do not do that, even many fairly upscale places. Restaurants catering to and frequented by foreigners, tourists, etc., often do charge these extra 17% fees. Sometimes, they actually tell you in advance... Maybe list it on the menu or such. Sometimes, however, there is no mention until they bring you the bill. Can't be sure... If such fees aren't identified up front, then maybe such fees only appear on the bills of foreigners? And too, it is questionable as to whether any part of any "service fee" goes to the wait staff. Often as not, it is reported as kept by management. There are some very nice restaurants in Chiang Mai that would never try to charge you more than the price on the menu. A few of the places listed in the "article" are not only quite expensive, but do have these carve outs as a way to further jack up your bill before you leave. Some of the hotels, and hotel bars, are even worse at scamming customers for money. I refuse to play that game. What you do is of course, up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhonKaenKowboy Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I agree, it's almost as bad as having to basically pay extra for cold beers. Very Filipino of them, and the 10+7 is actually 17.7, because you are paying 7% on the 10%, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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