webfact Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 DSI scrutinizes medical certificate supporting abbot’s actual sicknessBANGKOK: -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) held a meeting today to decide what action it could take after a medical certificate submitted as evidence to assure Phra Dhammachayo is sick is not officially issued by the Phanurangsee hospital.DSI director-general Pol Col Phaisit Wongmuang said the Phanurangsee hospital which is inside the Phanurangsee Army barrack in Ratchaburi province has officially notified the DSI that the medical certificate was not issued by the hospital.The meeting agreed that Phra Dhammachayo must report to the DSI for acknowledgement of charges on May 26.No postponement will be allowed any longer after the abbot has failed to report the DSI three times, prompting it to seek his arrest if he fails to turn himself in by May 26.The medical certificate was submitted by Phra Dhammachayo’s lawyer as evidence to confirm the abbot is sick and cannot report himself to the DSI for acknowledgement of three charges involving money laundering, receiving stolen property, and embezzlement.The DSI summoned the abbot three times to report but was ignored with claim he is sick and doctors advised he takes rest for two months.His lawyers then submitted medical certificate of the hospital as evidence of his sickness.However photos of the abbot continued to perform activities were posted on the internet, raising suspicion of his sickness.Enquiries into the medical certificate revealed it was certified by the deputy director of the Phanurangsee hospital.The issuance of certificate prompted an investigation by the hospital which later revealed it was issued on individual basis by the deputy director without the knowledge of the hospital.Besides, investigation also showed the abbot never was admitted to the hospital to receive medical treatment.It was later concluded by Phanurangsee hospital that the medical certificate is not an official certificate of the hospital.Disciplinary action is underway to penalize the hospital’s deputy director.DSI chief said affirmation by the hospital prompted the DSI to ponder if any legal action could be taken for those who submitted such unauthorized certicate as evidence to not report by citing sickness as reason.In another development, former chairman of the National Legislative Assembly’s Buddhism Reform Commission Mr Phaiboon Nititawan asked the DSI to bring the abbot to state hospital for physical check to prove he is really sick.This was necessary to dispel public suspicion of persecution by the DSI, he said.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/164324 -- Thai PBS 2016-05-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 So it goes on and on, more tricks scams lies. Anything to protect him from justice. It is a scandal that is what it is. Arrest him and if proven charge him, jail him. Stop playing around and making Thai justice a joke. Ohh sorry Thai justice is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Depending on the part played by the hospital's deputy director he should be facing a lot more than disciplinary action. Attempting to Pervert The Course of Justice, or Thai equivalent, will do for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckape Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Don't they have infirmaries in their jails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 It would appear that the actions and subsquent inaction displayed by many departments and officials in the Thai government are definetly slanted toward protecting those who are robbing the taxpaying public of huge sums and/or helping those involved in what seems to be treated almost as a hobby by involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 IMHO Phra Dhammachayo's Lawyer, and the Deputy Director of the Phanurangsee Hospital must be disbarred for fraud. The medical certificate was submitted by Phra Dhammachayo’s lawyer as evidence to confirm the abbot is sick and cannot report himself to the DSI for acknowledgement of three charges involving money laundering, receiving stolen property, and embezzlement.The DSI summoned the abbot three times to report but was ignored with claim he is sick and doctors advised he takes rest for two months.His lawyers then submitted medical certificate of the hospital as evidence of his sickness.However photos of the abbot continued to perform activities were posted on the internet, raising suspicion of his sickness.Enquiries into the medical certificate revealed it was certified by the deputy director of the Phanurangsee hospital.The issuance of certificate prompted an investigation by the hospital which later revealed it was issued on individual basis by the deputy director without the knowledge of the hospital.Besides, investigation also showed the abbot never was admitted to the hospital to receive medical treatment.It was later concluded by Phanurangsee hospital that the medical certificate is not an official certificate of the hospital.Disciplinary action is underway to penalize the hospital’s deputy director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Next time I murder someone in broad daylight remind me to play in the rain so I can get a cold: being sick apparently prevents you from being arrested in this country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIJoe Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Toybits, your statement was enough. Why include the majority of the article (and not even identify it as such)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Come on BIB Grow Some Balls and do your job or does the Army have to do it for you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Depending on the part played by the hospital's deputy director he should be facing a lot more than disciplinary action. Attempting to Pervert The Course of Justice, or Thai equivalent, will do for starters. Pardon my ignorance. If in fact what is being said about this man's illness is true and there seems to be so much uncorroborated evidence possibly being "produced" to show an even poorer character than the charges imply, how is Thai justice being "perverted" by a Deputy Director putting their own position at risk by providing an independent professional opinion. (Oh I forgot myself. It's a perverse concept to the military way of thinking for a noncom to think for themselves. I guess I have a hard time after being an assistant that if I asked my Director what I should and shouldn't do in any given situation whether highly political or not, I would have been looking for another job. But then again I wasn't a doctor, nor did I take a hypocritical oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The net closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Wait! I have an idea. Go pick him up with an ambulance, along with a specialist on his current diagnosis...and a SWAT team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Come on people , the cops are scared. This guy is too big a fish for them. Nothing gonna happen. Like when a lion attacks an elephant. Eventually it gives up on a hopeless cause. Geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I believe there is an obvious underlying reason why this abbot is being difficult to deal with and it is explained briefly here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrathepyanmahamuni Scroll down to item #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUNCHER Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The majority of Thais are Buddhists. They have a right to trust that the senior leaders of their religion are honest, clean and not corrupt and that those who do not meet that criteria are dealt with severely. On that basis alone the authorities must act decisively. The authorities seem to be trying, but are up against centuries of culture - Buddhist monks are untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Don't they have infirmaries in their jails? not as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Depending on the part played by the hospital's deputy director he should be facing a lot more than disciplinary action. Attempting to Pervert The Course of Justice, or Thai equivalent, will do for starters. Pardon my ignorance. If in fact what is being said about this man's illness is true and there seems to be so much uncorroborated evidence possibly being "produced" to show an even poorer character than the charges imply, how is Thai justice being "perverted" by a Deputy Director putting their own position at risk by providing an independent professional opinion. (Oh I forgot myself. It's a perverse concept to the military way of thinking for a noncom to think for themselves. I guess I have a hard time after being an assistant that if I asked my Director what I should and shouldn't do in any given situation whether highly political or not, I would have been looking for another job. But then again I wasn't a doctor, nor did I take a hypocritical oath. Nice one. Upon my oath I am a hypocrite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 A medical certificate in Thailand does not necessarily mean much. I paid 100 baht for the medical certificate for my driving licence. The 100 baht note was scrutinised to check it was in good health. I was not. I did not meet the doctor, only the receptionist No examination was necessary to certify me as medically fit to drive, in spite of my advanced years (which the doctor knew about as my date of birth was on the documents given.) I am betting that the good monk's medical certificate was more expensive but that his examination may not have been any more thorough than mine was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Buddha-issara asks DSI to impound Dhammachayo’s assets May 23, 2016 3:49 Activist abbot of Wat Or-noi in Nakhon Pathom, Phra Buddha-issara, today asked the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) to impound the assets of Phra Dhammachayo, abbot of Wat Dhammakaya in Pathum Thani reasoning they might derive from his conspiracy in money laundering and theft. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/164321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Depending on the part played by the hospital's deputy director he should be facing a lot more than disciplinary action. Attempting to Pervert The Course of Justice, or Thai equivalent, will do for starters. Attempting to Pervert the Course of Justice is quite respectable and normal behavior - goes with being an influential person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The DSI should know that they at least violate TPC Section 137, Lying to Thai Government Officials, maybe Section 267 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Depending on the part played by the hospital's deputy director he should be facing a lot more than disciplinary action. Attempting to Pervert The Course of Justice, or Thai equivalent, will do for starters. Pardon my ignorance. If in fact what is being said about this man's illness is true and there seems to be so much uncorroborated evidence possibly being "produced" to show an even poorer character than the charges imply, how is Thai justice being "perverted" by a Deputy Director putting their own position at risk by providing an independent professional opinion. (Oh I forgot myself. It's a perverse concept to the military way of thinking for a noncom to think for themselves. I guess I have a hard time after being an assistant that if I asked my Director what I should and shouldn't do in any given situation whether highly political or not, I would have been looking for another job. But then again I wasn't a doctor, nor did I take a hypocritical oath. An independent professional opinion means it is based on professionalism. Professional doctors examine their patients before they judge the case. The hospital says this "sick" guy has not been in this hospital = has not been seen by the deputy director who issued the certificate. I would expect something like this: " I am a professional doctor (licence number..) I saw the person on (date) at (localization) I did a proper clinical examination. I found the following normal and the following pathological issues... This means he suffers from and is not able to ..... because or he does not suffer from any severe illness and is fully capable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 You begin to wonder... Whose money spinning idea is this anyway... Must be some serious metal behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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