webfact Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Another Showdown as Tiger Temple Blocks 1,000 Wildlife OfficersBy Chayanit ItthipongmaeteeStaff ReporterMilitary and National Park Department officers at the Tiger Temple this morning. Photo: Edwin Wiek / TwitterKANCHANABURI — Conflict was brewing once again at the Tiger Temple this morning when it refused to hand over its tigers to wildlife officials.Over 1,000 national park officers arrived at the Tiger Temple in Kanchanaburi province at around 9am on Monday and as of noon were attempting to negotiate the animals’ removal.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1464585552 -- Khaosod English 2016-05-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thainess, lawless people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 How un-Buddhist of the temple. Get the army in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Why am i not surprised. Just another case were monks think they are above the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 After all Buddist monks are not suppose own any wealth, that is the whole principal teachings of Buddhism. It is time for Thailand to declare all the spiritual leaders assets as state assets. Then only they can resolve the issues, like Dhammakiya temple, Tiger temple or any other temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Here we have 2 famous temples blatantly obstructing government officials from carrying out their duties and defying the law and the courts. WHEN will P get off his butt and actually do something about this. Any other country in the world would have laid siege to these temples and arrested anyone in their way. Only in Thailand can you be so reliant of laws and court orders keep the government from doing their duties. Something must be done about this because it only shows to confirm that if you are Thai. You can resist law and order and do whatever you want without repercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thainess, lawless people. Now, now, these are monks you are talking about. I have another word for them but it would be deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1000 wildlife officers !!!! Blimey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 After all Buddist monks are not suppose own any wealth, that is the whole principal teachings of Buddhism. It is time for Thailand to declare all the spiritual leaders assets as state assets. Then only they can resolve the issues, like Dhammakiya temple, Tiger temple or any other temple. This will not happen as there are very powerful vested interests and their political nominees behind all these rich temples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saakura Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1000 wildlife officers !!!! Blimey! I heard there are about 5000 generals in the Thai army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1000 wildlife officers !!!! Blimey! Actually, I thought they were probably a little short handed, real nasty buggers these monks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macksview Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1000 wildlife officers !!!! Blimey! I heard there are about 5000 generals in the Thai army. and thailand got the most competent in charge. i am not much on thai law, can the police get/need a warrant to act on temple property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstarbkk Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 There don't seem to be that many Thais these days, who are not above the law for one reason or another. Why bother having laws at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Another 'showdown'? Seriously? This has gone way beyond rediculous. Time to shut down all these 'rich' temples and seize all their assets, including the assests of all the monks. Everything these monks (and I use that word very very loosly) do has nothing to do with Buddhism. They all shame Thailand, Thai Buddhism,and the Buddha himself by their actions. And yet again, 'negotiating' with the temple. You cannot negotiate with criminals. All they will do is take advantage. They should have learned that from the 2010 red shirt fiasco. And again, the same scenario is starting to play out at the flying saucer temple. The military and police are obviously products of the Thai educational system, not to mention the patronage system. Pretty much everybody in this country is unqualified for the positions they hold, which is why the country is in such a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Renewed effort to relocate 137 tigers from Tiger Temple starts with resistance againKANCHANABURI: -- Relocation of 137 tigers remaining at the Tiger Temple in Sai Yok district of Kanchanaburi this morning was met with resistance again by the temple when its main gate was closed to prevent authorities to enter.Over a hundred of officials from the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation, soldiers, and police were in front of the temple to start the relocation of the big cats this morning.Leader of the relocation operation Mr Adisorn Nuchdamrong, deputy director of the department tried desperately to negotiate with the temple abbot for peaceful relocation.But his attempted negotiation failed.Officials now were seeking order from the court for the relocation action.He said if they receive Court’s order, then anyone resisting the relocation will face arrest.He said officials will follow legal procedure in carrying out the relocation.Officials were camping outside the temple with cages, trucks and some heavy machinery to start the relocation.Today is the third time that officials will relocate the tigers to new homes in Ratchaburi and Nakhon Pathom.The first relocation on January 28 had successfully moved five tigers, and on February 23 another five to Khao Pratap Charng and Khao Son wildlife stations in Chom Bung district of Ratchaburi province.Now 137 others are still at Tiger Temple.Mr Adisorn said if the temple cooperates, relocation of the 137 tigers will take a week to finish, or 20 tigers a day can be moved to new homes.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/165308 -- Thai PBS 2016-05-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) They should dress up as Chinese tourists, roll up in a dozen large motor coaches, visibly display selfie sticks, buy entrance tickets, and then they're in. Herd the cats back onto the buses, what could go wrong. Now for my solution to the Wat Dhammakaya stand-off...shave head, dress in white... Edited May 30, 2016 by mtls2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 It might not to a long wait for the news that Buddhist monks have staged a coup and are now running the show . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 They adopt a religion, then modify it. Thainess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtom Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I thought the temple got a zoo license recently, or was that another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) 1000 wildlife officers !!!! Blimey! I heard there are about 5000 generals in the Thai army. It's commonly believed that the Thai Army of 190,000 soldiers has more generals than the US Army of 507,000 soldiers. I used to know the numbers but can't find them now. Many army generals appear to be unusually rich, and there are persistent allegations of corruption and racketeering, but they are considered untouchable by civilian governments - their reason for this is likely found in their name - the same as the police. I should redo the numbers really... some of them are interesting, like how many Air Force planes crash and that sort of thing. No real surprises for Thai watchers, but interesting none-the-less. W Edited May 30, 2016 by Winniedapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I am somewhat surprised that Prayut, with one man rule complete with re-education camps, cannot handle a few monks. I would be fascinated to learn who the moneyed elites are who have tapped into the river of money the tiger temple produces, and how they are able to keep protecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommers Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Life here in Prayuttya increasingly looks like a Laurel and Hardy cum Keystone cops movie. A thousand pen pushers cannot outwit a band of thugs wrapped in saffron robes, so why were there no police or soldiers to deal with the guaranteed confrontation! Oh I forgot, they are all busy lying in wait to arrest 70 year old men giving flowers to "radicals", and cleaning up their monument to past monarchs in Hua Hin! Seems to me that the inmates have taken over the asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Don t forget the boys from the temple threatened the activists to kill/beat them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustwest Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thainess, lawless people.Now, now, these are monks you are talking about. I have another word for them but it would be deleted. How's Charlatan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 1000 wildlife officers !!!! Blimey! I heard there are about 5000 generals in the Thai army. and thailand got the most competent in charge. i am not much on thai law, can the police get/need a warrant to act on temple property? I don't believe they can, believe they have a lot of protection under various laws? anybody know more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Thainess, lawless people.Now, now, these are monks you are talking about. I have another word for them but it would be deleted. How's Charlatan Most religious types are, in all religions in my experience. There are undoubtedly some very good and devout people, but they are few and far between in all religions. Oddly, the highest frequency of devout and good people I have found in religions has been in... wait for it... Islam. Life is very strange sometimes, I guess that megaphone religion, superficial and simplistic religion just drowns out the real value of religions. Weird. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbler Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Weren't they they just issued a zoo licence? So why is DNP trying to confiscate the tigers again? Perhaps someone forgot to pay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncat1 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I don't know why so many people complain about the present government when as we all know it is the monks that rule Thailand. The monks in Thailand need to be put in their place and reminded of Buddha's teachings, which very few materialistic monks follow now. Monks and temples are all about making money ..... BUT for whom ? It most certainly is not for the poor or needy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) The rangers have recently entered the zoo 'temple' grounds and are preparing to remove the 'show' tigers after they've finished performing for the tourists at 3.30 pm This time may very well go ahead as the temple/zoo had asked for 147,444,000 baht for the tigers which presumably was refused. So all about saving tigers and nothing at all to do with the money then Edited May 30, 2016 by dageurreotype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I am so baffled, about what monks are actually allowed in this country! Amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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