Nok Air seeks emergency landing at Chumphon airport



BANGKOK: -- A Nok Air flight from Ranong to Bangkok sought emergency landing at Chumphon airport this morning.

According to Chumphon airport director Amphorn Phakdi, the pilot of Nok Air plane, Flight ATR 72 – 500, which took off from Ranong airport for Don Mueang airport, sought emergency landing after he noticed cracks on the cockpit window.

The plane with 62 passengers and four crew members landed safely at Chumphon airport.

Investigation is now being conducted on how the windshield in the cockpit cracked.

Nok Air has flown another plane from Don Mueang to pick up all the stranded passengers at Chumphon airport late today.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/nok-air-seeks-emergency-landing-chumphon-airport/


-- Thai PBS 2016-06-17

Surely it would not have been too much trouble for TVN to publish a photograph of the correct aircraft a ATR 72-500. I can't imagine Boeing being too impressed having people believe it is the windshield of one of their 737's that is cracking.

I am happy to assist Thai Visa News and attach the correct photo of a Nok Air ATR. TVN might like to change the photo before Boeing's lawyers cotten on.

Surely it would not have been too much trouble for TVN to publish a photograph of the correct aircraft a ATR 72-500. I can't imagine Boeing being too impressed having people believe it is the windshield of one of their 737's that is cracking.

I am happy to assist Thai Visa News and attach the correct photo of a Nok Air ATR. TVN might like to change the photo before Boeing's lawyers cotten on.

Hey, it had the beak logo.....more than enough.

TVN is just reposting these news articles.

Click the Link in the OP where it says: Source to see where it originally came from (with the wrong picture)

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by MJCM

Correct procedure , not often you hear of cracks in the cockpit window, the last serious one was a BA pilot being sucked out ,investigation, incorrect fitting of said window .....................................

A number of off-topic posts and petty bickering have been removed from this thread.

Thanks you Brer Fox for posting a correct photo of a Nok Air ATR, but as has been already pointed out, the source of the news article was Thai PBS (inclusive of the incorrect photo).

Now that that's acknowledged, can we please get back to discussing the subject matter, rather than the incorrect photo?

This is not the first time a Nok Air plane has had a cracked cockpit window. I think I'll avoid flying with them in future....http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/03/26/nok-air-finds-cracked-cockpit-window-cancels-flight

Nok with old planes and disrespectful pilots and pilots who smoke as was in previous news articles on TV

Sure fly with them and that OTHER ORIENT airline too?

YOUR LIFE not mine!

This is not the first time a Nok Air plane has had a cracked cockpit window. I think I'll avoid flying with them in future....http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/03/26/nok-air-finds-cracked-cockpit-window-cancels-flight

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140507001219-90103575-cracked-aircraft-windshields-are-not-rare

013-2014 Cracked Windshield Incidents on a Sample of International Flights: Here is what has been reported so far since last Thanksgiving-Christmas 2013, the highest flight travel season, according to Aviation Herald:

US Airways A333 near Charlotte on May 3, 2014, windshield heating issues.

Aegean A321 near Munich on May 1, 2014, cracked windshield.

Aegean A321 near Brussels on April 19, 2014, cracked windshield.

Ethiopian B788 near Rome on April 21, 2014, cracked windshield.

United B752 near Indianapolis on April 19, 2014, cracked windshield.

Overland AT42 near Lagos on April 7, 2014, cracked windshield

Southwest B733 near Boise on April 6, 2014, cracked windshield

Gojet CRJ7 near New York on March 22, 2014, shattered windscreen

SAS B736 at Oslo on March 13, 2014, cracked windshield

Yakutia B737 near Perm on March 3, 2014, cracked windshield

Southwest B737 near Pittsburgh on March 1, 2014, cracked windshield

UTAir CRJ2 near Brno on January 30, 2014, cracked windshield

British Airways B763 over North Sea on February 19, 2014, cracked windshield

Niki A320 near Vienna on January 31, 2014, cracked windshield, reported loss of cabin pressure

Niki A321 near Faro on February 2, 2014, cracked windshield

Srilankan A332 near Colombo on January 1, 2014, cracked windshield

Germanwings A319 near Vienna on December 21, 2013, cracked windshield

Nordstar B738 at Krasnojarsk on December 17, 2013, cracked windshield

Qantas B738 near Newman on November 26, 2013, cracked windshield

American B752 near Orlando on November 12, 2013, cracked windshield

Tindi DHC7 at Yellowknife on December 14, 2013, "blind" landing (entire windshield, left and right hand, iced over due to no heating available limiting the sight).

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by MJCM

My sympathies to the passengers. Put it this way, there is no danger of of deplaning there and mistaking it for Las Vegas...

Cracked windshields are a common occurrence on all models or commercial aircraft.

As mentioned earlier, the avherald.com site is an excellent and reputable source of reporting for all commercial aviation incidents and accidents.

You'll be amazed to see how many of such incidents happen around the world, with no harmful consequence because pilots are trained to handle them appropriately.

Mechanics and electronics fail and no human-built machine is 100% fault-proof. The point is to make it and the people who're using it fault-tolerant.

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by Lannig

Ten to one that maintenance missed the cracks on the ground during inspection and this pilot missed seeing them during his inspection before take off..An airline of low paid amateurs all the way.

Probably a language/translation issue, but pilots don't 'seek' approval for an emergency landing. The TELL Air Traffic Control they are landing. It is an emergency. ATC then facilitate with priority processing if/when required.

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by F4UCorsair

A number of off-topic posts and petty bickering have been removed from this thread.

Thanks you Brer Fox for posting a correct photo of a Nok Air ATR, but as has been already pointed out, the source of the news article was Thai PBS (inclusive of the incorrect photo).

Now that that's acknowledged, can we please get back to discussing the subject matter, rather than the incorrect photo?

So sorry to cause such a problem. You sound upset. Please have some respect for the quality of editing. All too often I find the photos linked to a TVN story have nothing at all to do with the story. Stupid me believes what I see on TVN. And then there are those whose sole ambition is to life in wait to ambush to catch those who don't bother to check the original source.

I assure you I am not tryng to make trouble but I urge you to give greater priority to the quality of reporting.

Regards

The right aircraft is the second photo. 100%

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by Wilsonandson

Ten to one that maintenance missed the cracks on the ground during inspection and this pilot missed seeing them during his inspection before take off..An airline of low paid amateurs all the way.

Ten to one that did not happen. Might be picked up by the flight crew on walk around or might have been spotted when the crew sit in their seats and guess what is right in front of them? As mentioned before, this is a fairly common event. If the issue was a bird strike and catastrophic failure of the window, a diversion with the other pilot flying would not even be a Pan Pan call (depending on severity). Landing at nearest suitable airport would be a good reaction. If the heating element went bad and the outer pane of a multi pane aircraft windshield cracked, this might have resulted in the aircraft continuing to its destination. Without knowing what actually happened, all this talk is null. I just wanted to comment that not many pilots would miss a cracked wind screen as it is clearly what you look out of and is conveniently located about 2 feet from your face. Attached is what a common outer pane cracking looks like. Lots of layers to go and not an immediate danger.

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by soidog52

A number of off-topic posts and petty bickering have been removed from this thread.

Thanks you Brer Fox for posting a correct photo of a Nok Air ATR, but as has been already pointed out, the source of the news article was Thai PBS (inclusive of the incorrect photo).

Now that that's acknowledged, can we please get back to discussing the subject matter, rather than the incorrect photo?

So sorry to cause such a problem. You sound upset. Please have some respect for the quality of editing. All too often I find the photos linked to a TVN story have nothing at all to do with the story. Stupid me believes what I see on TVN. And then there are those whose sole ambition is to life in wait to ambush to catch those who don't bother to check the original source.

I assure you I am not tryng to make trouble but I urge you to give greater priority to the quality of reporting.

Regards

And you should recognize that TV is not a full blown news media outfit which has been said a million times before, they use items from 'accredited' news outlets to build an 'all in one site' facility for TV members. That's the way it works.

Correct procedure , not often you hear of cracks in the cockpit window, the last serious one was a BA pilot being sucked out ,investigation, incorrect fitting of said window .....................................

Not correct chainarong. Cracked cockpit windows, whilst not common, do happen fairly often.

Just a cracked pane will not cause a failure. There are three layers, glass/plastic/glass, and they're heated for a couple of reasons, to assist with demisting, and to make the glass a little "plastic" in case of a birdstrike. There are different procedures, depending on which pane, inner or outer, is cracked, and generally limits altitude, due to pressure differential, outside to inside. In reputable airlines, it's the Captain's prerogative whether he decides to take the aircraft, even if the 'damage' is an allowable deficiency.

The BA incident wasn't just a cracked pane, but the wrong length screws used to install the window,and the whole window disappeared. I know of one other incident in the US where similar happened in a Convair, about 45 years ago, but not sure of the circumstances of the actual failure. I met the co-pilot, and he told me that the flight attendants were hanging onto the Captain's foot to prevent him disappearing.

I laughed when I read about the BA incident, where the Captain suffered severe frostbite. Peripheral damage was a frayed tie!!!

For all those who claim this was an inspection failure, may I suggest a reading from a very reputable source ?

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=499e70d2&opt=0

It clearly says that the cracked windshield was the result of a bird strike in-flight

I will never fly with Nok air or Orient Thai.

Correct procedure , not often you hear of cracks in the cockpit window, the last serious one was a BA pilot being sucked out ,investigation, incorrect fitting of said window .....................................

Cracked windscreens happen frequently, a bird strike or heating elements faults can cause them to crack, the BA incident was not a cracked windscreen, the windscreen had been fitted with the wrong screws and popped out in flight.

For all those who claim this was an inspection failure, may I suggest a reading from a very reputable source ?

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=499e70d2&opt=0

It clearly says that the cracked windshield was the result of a bird strike in-flight

at the aussie airforce base i worked at, the base firemen and some other base 'sportsmen' used to cull the local bird population.

seen bird strike damage on a few aircraft very nasty, never had a mayday where i was, but a few pan-pan got our pulses running.

This is not the first time a Nok Air plane has had a cracked cockpit window. I think I'll avoid flying with them in future....http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/03/26/nok-air-finds-cracked-cockpit-window-cancels-flight

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140507001219-90103575-cracked-aircraft-windshields-are-not-rare

013-2014 Cracked Windshield Incidents on a Sample of International Flights: Here is what has been reported so far since last Thanksgiving-Christmas 2013, the highest flight travel season, according to Aviation Herald:

US Airways A333 near Charlotte on May 3, 2014, windshield heating issues.

Aegean A321 near Munich on May 1, 2014, cracked windshield.

Aegean A321 near Brussels on April 19, 2014, cracked windshield.

Ethiopian B788 near Rome on April 21, 2014, cracked windshield.

United B752 near Indianapolis on April 19, 2014, cracked windshield.

Overland AT42 near Lagos on April 7, 2014, cracked windshield

Southwest B733 near Boise on April 6, 2014, cracked windshield

Gojet CRJ7 near New York on March 22, 2014, shattered windscreen

SAS B736 at Oslo on March 13, 2014, cracked windshield

Yakutia B737 near Perm on March 3, 2014, cracked windshield

Southwest B737 near Pittsburgh on March 1, 2014, cracked windshield

UTAir CRJ2 near Brno on January 30, 2014, cracked windshield

British Airways B763 over North Sea on February 19, 2014, cracked windshield

Niki A320 near Vienna on January 31, 2014, cracked windshield, reported loss of cabin pressure

Niki A321 near Faro on February 2, 2014, cracked windshield

Srilankan A332 near Colombo on January 1, 2014, cracked windshield

Germanwings A319 near Vienna on December 21, 2013, cracked windshield

Nordstar B738 at Krasnojarsk on December 17, 2013, cracked windshield

Qantas B738 near Newman on November 26, 2013, cracked windshield

American B752 near Orlando on November 12, 2013, cracked windshield

Tindi DHC7 at Yellowknife on December 14, 2013, "blind" landing (entire windshield, left and right hand, iced over due to no heating available limiting the sight).

Delta also stated this "This is a rare occurrence but the established procedure is to divert the flight.”

funny at odds with each other, the articles later report as yours above

Edited June 18, 201610 yr by kannot

Ten to one that maintenance missed the cracks on the ground during inspection and this pilot missed seeing them during his inspection before take off..An airline of low paid amateurs all the way.

Ten to one that did not happen. Might be picked up by the flight crew on walk around or might have been spotted when the crew sit in their seats and guess what is right in front of them? As mentioned before, this is a fairly common event. If the issue was a bird strike and catastrophic failure of the window, a diversion with the other pilot flying would not even be a Pan Pan call (depending on severity). Landing at nearest suitable airport would be a good reaction. If the heating element went bad and the outer pane of a multi pane aircraft windshield cracked, this might have resulted in the aircraft continuing to its destination. Without knowing what actually happened, all this talk is null. I just wanted to comment that not many pilots would miss a cracked wind screen as it is clearly what you look out of and is conveniently located about 2 feet from your face. Attached is what a common outer pane cracking looks like. Lots of layers to go and not an immediate danger.

If I'm correct in assuming that pilots are suppose to do a preflight check of aircraft first? Like kick the tires to see if they have any or look at window to check for cracks fuel leaks and such? Oh Silly me Thailand has it own rules Cover logo at all costs. And do runner.

Correct procedure , not often you hear of cracks in the cockpit window, the last serious one was a BA pilot being sucked out ,investigation, incorrect fitting of said window .....................................

Nonsense. Cracks are a common occurrence, as is smoke from the window heating elements. Hardly an emergency. The windows are double and all they do is drop the altitude down below 10,000 ft. The service ceiling on the ATR is 25,000 feet and these guys usually do the short hops at between 15,000 and 20,000 so they could have safely dropped very quickly with no fuss.

Not an "emergency", but a standard diversion.

If I'm correct in assuming that pilots are suppose to do a preflight check of aircraft first? Like kick the tires to see if they have any or look at window to check for cracks fuel leaks and such? Oh Silly me Thailand has it own rules Cover logo at all costs. And do runner.

Please read other posts before posting... a number of posts refer to Aviation Herald a good source of factual aviation:

A Nok Air Avions de Transport Regional ATR-72-212A, registration HS-DRD performing flight DD-7313 from Ranong to Bangkok (Thailand) with 62 passengers and 4 crew, was climbing out of Ranong, when a bird impact the captain's windshield. In the absence of any damage or abnormal indications the crew continued the flight, however, a short time later cracks developed in the captain's windshield prompting the crew to divert to Chumphon about 70nm northeast of Ranong, where the aircraft landed safely.

http://avherald.com/h?article=499e70d2&opt=0

Presume you are not expecting the first officer to have to get out and do a walk round mid flight ...are you???

Also no mention of a declared emergence or emergence landing, I assume the mention by Thai PBS of an emergency landing was a poor translation of "Unscheduled Landing" by a cub reporter or editor with little or no aviation knowledge.

I now get the idea behind the paint job, it is to scare birds away...

It did not work.