In response to mtis205's remarks below

I am under the impression that while Supachai did embezzle ~ 11 billion baht, he only made donations to the temple/abbot in question of ~ 680 million baht. Further, that money has been returned to KCCU.

Now a good question to ask is where is the rest of the money. But don't go there unless you are prepared for the answers.

Supachai transferred 435 million baht to the personal account of Dhammachayo and 350 million baht to Wat Dhammakaya's account. 3 other monks received over 100 million baht transferred into their personal accounts.

To return the money after being exposed is no different to a thief offering to give you back the money he stole from you.

Regarding the rest of the money- this case is only the first ruling of 7 cases regarding Supachai's embezzlement. I suggest you wait for the other rulings to find out where the rest of the money went.

Siripon you just said what mtis205 said. How is that a response?

Too true... only the military and elites are immune from the law over here.

So which is more important to you; that the abbot be prosecuted without any risk of political bias, or that the 53,000 members of the credit union he helped plunder see the offenders prosecuted?

No reason at all why both shouldn't be possible, in a fair and democratic society.

To return the money after being exposed is no different to a thief offering to give you back the money he stole from you.

Well I know it runs counter to your belief system, but the temple/abbot were not the "thieves" in your vignette.

The donations were accepted in good faith - some influential, highly respected people have made larger donations - unaware that Supachai looted the piggy bank. Then once it was determined that the donations were embezzled funds they were returned.

To clarify, or expand on your analogy, after the thief steals the money he happens on some people. He gives them some of the money. They later find out it was stolen and return it. Certainly you are not suggesting the intermediary should be charged with theft, or "money laundering"?

Wilsonandson -the first part of my post in italics is mtis205's words, the rest is my response..

So if you argue mtis205 that Dhammachayo received money from Supachai in good faith, all he has to do is explain to the DSI why the temple never checked the 13 cheques worth more than 800 million baht it received over nearly 2 years from March 5 2009 to February 15 2011 from a cooperative.

And explain why a Credit Union Cooperative would pay 435 million baht into his own private account, as well as 3 other monks receiving over 100 million baht each in their own accounts.

Perhaps the monk fears the case will open the public's eyes into quite how rich he personally is.

all he has to do is explain to the DSI

I suspect the DSI is expecting a lot more than "you've got some 'splaining to do"?

I am under the impression that the temple/abbot have already explained their side of the story. Obviously this does not suit certain elements of the elite/amart/greens, who are out for nothing less than blood. This rivals the pursuit of the Shinwatra clan in almost every aspect, and nothing short of total annihilation will satisfy the lord's hounds.

And so much behind the scenes which cannot be discussed here.

Wilsonandson -the first part of my post in italics is mtis205's words, the rest is my response..

So if you argue mtis205 that Dhammachayo received money from Supachai in good faith, all he has to do is explain to the DSI why the temple never checked the 13 cheques worth more than 800 million baht it received over nearly 2 years from March 5 2009 to February 15 2011 from a cooperative.

And explain why a Credit Union Cooperative would pay 435 million baht into his own private account, as well as 3 other monks receiving over 100 million baht each in their own accounts.

Perhaps the monk fears the case will open the public's eyes into quite how rich he personally is.

So your saying that in Buddhism the monk cannot possess wealth? All monks have to be poor. What a riddiculous arguement. Your posts get worse. Try to calm down, perhaps some meditation would be advisable.

One more thing on this topic, I hope the PM learnt something when he went to India recently. Gandhi's peaceful protests and religion. The natives are restless at the moment, just a spark could light a fire. In my opinion. The faces on the street are looking more agitated than normal, the heart rate or blood pressure is boiling. Slowly, slowy catchy monkey.

Edited June 19, 201610 yr by Wilsonandson

Wilsonandson -the first part of my post in italics is mtis205's words, the rest is my response..

So if you argue mtis205 that Dhammachayo received money from Supachai in good faith, all he has to do is explain to the DSI why the temple never checked the 13 cheques worth more than 800 million baht it received over nearly 2 years from March 5 2009 to February 15 2011 from a cooperative.

And explain why a Credit Union Cooperative would pay 435 million baht into his own private account, as well as 3 other monks receiving over 100 million baht each in their own accounts.

Perhaps the monk fears the case will open the public's eyes into quite how rich he personally is.

So your saying that in Buddhism the monk cannot possess wealth? All monks have to be poor. What a riddiculous arguement. Your posts get worse. Try to calm down, perhaps some meditation would be advisable.

One more thing on this topic, I hope the PM learnt something when he went to India recently. Gandhi's peaceful protests and religion. The natives are restless at the moment, just a spark could light a fire. In my opinion. The faces on the street are looking more agitated than normal, the heart rate or blood pressure is boiling. Slowly, slowy catchy monkey.

A monk should not be receiving cheques into his personal account for 435 million baht.

Absolutely.

As for being calm, your spelling errors suggest you are the one getting agitated. I recommend you go for a meditation course at your favourite temple, Wat Dhammakaya, only do remember your importance to the temple entirely depends on how much you donate.

Wilsonandson -the first part of my post in italics is mtis205's words, the rest is my response..

So if you argue mtis205 that Dhammachayo received money from Supachai in good faith, all he has to do is explain to the DSI why the temple never checked the 13 cheques worth more than 800 million baht it received over nearly 2 years from March 5 2009 to February 15 2011 from a cooperative.

And explain why a Credit Union Cooperative would pay 435 million baht into his own private account, as well as 3 other monks receiving over 100 million baht each in their own accounts.

Perhaps the monk fears the case will open the public's eyes into quite how rich he personally is.

So your saying that in Buddhism the monk cannot possess wealth? All monks have to be poor. What a riddiculous arguement. Your posts get worse. Try to calm down, perhaps some meditation would be advisable.

One more thing on this topic, I hope the PM learnt something when he went to India recently. Gandhi's peaceful protests and religion. The natives are restless at the moment, just a spark could light a fire. In my opinion. The faces on the street are looking more agitated than normal, the heart rate or blood pressure is boiling. Slowly, slowy catchy monkey.

A monk should not be receiving cheques into his personal account for 435 million baht.

Absolutely.

As for being calm, your spelling errors suggest you are the one getting agitated. I recommend you go for a meditation course at your favourite temple, Wat Dhammakaya, only do remember your importance to the temple entirely depends on how much you donate.

Which all that attend the temple know. As for your spelling assumption your right I do feel a bit agitated. Thank goodness that some people devote their lives teaching others how to relieve stress by teaching meditation. A trip to the temple sounds just the ticket. Thanks for your friendly advice. Peace be with you, my friend.

Edited June 19, 201610 yr by Wilsonandson

Siripon, I'm all for charges against anyone doing wrong. Could you post the link to the news story as well when you provide info. I wonder if you know about the money sent to the Thai Red Cross. I've heard that embezzled funds were given to more than Wat Dhammakaya. Do you have info about this other money? Seems to me if in fact other organizations took money, their leaders should be facing charges too. Just looking for the truth.

For those interested, I found the link to the temple's English websites. They seem to have more websites abroad with different addresses as well.

Here is that address: http://en.dhammakaya.net/

So your saying that in Buddhism the monk cannot possess wealth? All monks have to be poor. What a riddiculous arguement. Your posts get worse. Try to calm down, perhaps some meditation would be advisable.

One more thing on this topic, I hope the PM learnt something when he went to India recently. Gandhi's peaceful protests and religion. The natives are restless at the moment, just a spark could light a fire. In my opinion. The faces on the street are looking more agitated than normal, the heart rate or blood pressure is boiling. Slowly, slowy catchy monkey.

The argument is ridiculous, why? Because it doesn't fit your agenda?

"Blameworthy qualities are greed for gain, stinginess, grasping, attachment to gain and hoarding of wealth."

http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma2/becono4.html

The natives are restless, one spark etc. BS. Most of the natives couldn't give a flying fig. Go back to your daydreaming, sorry, meditation, and more importantly, donating. Admitting you have been giving money to a bunch of crooks would be humiliating I suppose.