So what did the Brexit supporters gain?

[ljd1308]

They are all playing this miserly game now. I agree we paid for years for a pension and immigrants waltz in and get almost the same benefit we do after years of working it definitely sucks. They contribute little till the 2nd and 3rd generation they are only incubators for the future(if there is one). After the 2nd and 3rd generations see how easy the money flows well it kills any incentive they had to get an education and a meaningful non McDonalds type of job. Yes governments would have us believe these pensions are a benevolent gift sorry they are an entitlement. Governments are looking in every nook and cranny to try and squeeze out a buck and we pensioners are constantly under the microscope. We have outlived our usefulness it seems. They want us to help pay for decades of mismanagement and importation of immigrants. I am sure Dodgy Dave will kiss the PM's job goodbye in October and collect his generous pension immediately. I am sure the large corporations are already lining up with their checkbooks out to hire him( at many times his present stepping stone salary) to advance their agenda in English political circles. Before his life is over he will be a double and triple dipper into the pension system. Shame on him and shame on the Brits for allowing this BS to happen.

You have to pay taxes and contribute to National insurance for 30 years to get you miserable pension they reluctantly give you.

Meanwhile the government has to fork out a lot of money every year to help other Europeans and immigrants who have never paid a penny to UK.

I resent the fact that they are entitled to more than me as I contributed more than 30 years dues and others like me are told the pensions are costing the UK too much now.

I don't think you quite realise how pensions work, you did not pay for your pension....you paid for your parents pension and your children will pay for yours. It is not an entitlement, the only entitlement would be to get back what you put in, so if you put in 12% of your salary for 30 years, enjoy living off that 12% now.

If you want your pension to increase, you need to increase the amount of contributions being made now.

The only way any pension in the world can work is if the contributions continually increase, when the is a population burst(like for example after ww2) when those people start to get to retirement age(like for example now) they actually need and should be campaigning for increased immigration to support their retirement......that is how government pensions work.

I saved for my retirement not someone elses your thinking is flawed. My pension was bases on MY contributions and MY years of service. When my hard earned money goes into a plan it is sure an entitlement. If it is what you describe well we call that a Ponzi scheme.

But if you are referring to NI as your savings, you only saved 12% of your salary a year, that means you are only entitled to YOUR contributions....where do you think the rest comes from? Some will be added to if it is invested well, but that is still susceptible to fluctuations.

Britain has a 3 point safety measure to ensure their pensions will go up with the cost of living. They are guaranteed to raise the pension every year by the higher of inflation, average earnings or a minimum of 2.5%. How can that be possible if it just from YOUR savings?

If you don't believe me simply do the maths, add up all YOU contributed to NI and then divide that over your expected life. Are you receiving more or less than YOU contributed?

[Berty100]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

[elgordo38]

They are all playing this miserly game now. I agree we paid for years for a pension and immigrants waltz in and get almost the same benefit we do after years of working it definitely sucks. They contribute little till the 2nd and 3rd generation they are only incubators for the future(if there is one). After the 2nd and 3rd generations see how easy the money flows well it kills any incentive they had to get an education and a meaningful non McDonalds type of job. Yes governments would have us believe these pensions are a benevolent gift sorry they are an entitlement. Governments are looking in every nook and cranny to try and squeeze out a buck and we pensioners are constantly under the microscope. We have outlived our usefulness it seems. They want us to help pay for decades of mismanagement and importation of immigrants. I am sure Dodgy Dave will kiss the PM's job goodbye in October and collect his generous pension immediately. I am sure the large corporations are already lining up with their checkbooks out to hire him( at many times his present stepping stone salary) to advance their agenda in English political circles. Before his life is over he will be a double and triple dipper into the pension system. Shame on him and shame on the Brits for allowing this BS to happen.

You have to pay taxes and contribute to National insurance for 30 years to get you miserable pension they reluctantly give you.

Meanwhile the government has to fork out a lot of money every year to help other Europeans and immigrants who have never paid a penny to UK.

I resent the fact that they are entitled to more than me as I contributed more than 30 years dues and others like me are told the pensions are costing the UK too much now.

I don't think you quite realise how pensions work, you did not pay for your pension....you paid for your parents pension and your children will pay for yours. It is not an entitlement, the only entitlement would be to get back what you put in, so if you put in 12% of your salary for 30 years, enjoy living off that 12% now.

If you want your pension to increase, you need to increase the amount of contributions being made now.

The only way any pension in the world can work is if the contributions continually increase, when the is a population burst(like for example after ww2) when those people start to get to retirement age(like for example now) they actually need and should be campaigning for increased immigration to support their retirement......that is how government pensions work.

I saved for my retirement not someone elses your thinking is flawed. My pension was bases on MY contributions and MY years of service. When my hard earned money goes into a plan it is sure an entitlement. If it is what you describe well we call that a Ponzi scheme.

But if you are referring to NI as your savings, you only saved 12% of your salary a year, that means you are only entitled to YOUR contributions....where do you think the rest comes from? Some will be added to if it is invested well, but that is still susceptible to fluctuations.

Britain has a 3 point safety measure to ensure their pensions will go up with the cost of living. They are guaranteed to raise the pension every year by the higher of inflation, average earnings or a minimum of 2.5%. How can that be possible if it just from YOUR savings?

If you don't believe me simply do the maths, add up all YOU contributed to NI and then divide that over your expected life. Are you receiving more or less than YOU contributed?

Well for starters I am not British.

[mfd101]

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Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

[Berty100]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

Britain start to look more and more like Thailand, populated by millions of illiterate and uneducated xenophobes.

No wonder so many Brits come on holiday here.

[Kiwiken]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

Britain start to look more and more like Thailand, populated by millions of illiterate and uneducated xenophobes.

No wonder so many Brits come on holiday here.

Interestingly enough . After the Brexit vote the EU has decided to look at the possiblities of giving Sovereign members more control over their own Borders. So the Leavers obviously had some valid points. If the UK Parliament decides to ignore the result then that is the end of Democracy. The difficult things are where to now? But hopefully as has been the case in times of crisis and change a new Captain will arise. A Country that once ruled a huge Empire and pioneered the Industrial revolution may not regain its former glory. But surely all the seeds of rejuvenation are not dead in the Garden.

[Berty100]

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Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

Britain start to look more and more like Thailand, populated by millions of illiterate and uneducated xenophobes.

No wonder so many Brits come on holiday here.

Interestingly enough . After the Brexit vote the EU has decided to look at the possiblities of giving Sovereign members more control over their own Borders. So the Leavers obviously had some valid points. If the UK Parliament decides to ignore the result then that is the end of Democracy. The difficult things are where to now? But hopefully as has been the case in times of crisis and change a new Captain will arise. A Country that once ruled a huge Empire and pioneered the Industrial revolution may not regain its former glory. But surely all the seeds of rejuvenation are not dead in the Garden.

The difference between then and now is that centuries ago their island made them remote and untouchable, while today the same has isolated them.

[mfd101]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

Britain start to look more and more like Thailand, populated by millions of illiterate and uneducated xenophobes.

No wonder so many Brits come on holiday here.

Interestingly enough . After the Brexit vote the EU has decided to look at the possiblities of giving Sovereign members more control over their own Borders. So the Leavers obviously had some valid points. If the UK Parliament decides to ignore the result then that is the end of Democracy. The difficult things are where to now? But hopefully as has been the case in times of crisis and change a new Captain will arise. A Country that once ruled a huge Empire and pioneered the Industrial revolution may not regain its former glory. But surely all the seeds of rejuvenation are not dead in the Garden.

Yes, the issue is to turn problems (now massive) into opportunities for structural & cultural change, not just in Britain but throughout Europe. We'll know how they're tracking in about 20 years.

[Ace of Pop]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

Britain start to look more and more like Thailand, populated by millions of illiterate and uneducated xenophobes.

No wonder so many Brits come on holiday here.

Interestingly enough . After the Brexit vote the EU has decided to look at the possiblities of giving Sovereign members more control over their own Borders. So the Leavers obviously had some valid points. If the UK Parliament decides to ignore the result then that is the end of Democracy. The difficult things are where to now? But hopefully as has been the case in times of crisis and change a new Captain will arise. A Country that once ruled a huge Empire and pioneered the Industrial revolution may not regain its former glory. But surely all the seeds of rejuvenation are not dead in the Garden.

The difference between then and now is that centuries ago their island made them remote and untouchable, while today the same has isolated them.

Not very well,they are overrun with any one but the Germans who tried quite hard to get in.Perhaps they should have just claimed Poverty and got welcomed by the rich do gooders like Blair n Brown

[i claudius]

What the Exiteers gain? Economic disaster!!! The knock on effects will be greater than the 2008 economic banking crises. I voted to stay. White UK citizens in the UK voted leave to stop coloured ethnic groups. All my Black and Asian friends and neighbours said they voted to leave to stop the White Europeans like the poles arriving to take their jobs. Whites and Blacks thought they were voting against each other, instead they voted with each other to achieve this disaster. I did say this would happen in another thread on 19 June and I am very sad for being right.

At one time there was $4 to £. On the day after the Brexit vote it went from $1.50 to £ down to as low as $1.20. The UK £ is no longer a big enough currency to sustain itself as a benifit in the world's money markets.

Unthinkable before the referendum the Northern Irish are already talking of a referendum to become a United Ireland to stay in Europe. The Scots are talking of another referendum to stay in Europe and join the Euro currency. It was a case of British people voting like Lemmings and not really understanding the consequences of their actions.

And of course people like you ,who are so superior ,know far more than us lemmings who voted to leave , well us lemmings won ,so suck it up loser .

[chicowoodduck]

Yes US stock futures were down. I was surprised that it was not double of what Faux News was showing. The market has been going up on hot air and hot money flowing in and of course that greedy "borrow up to 50% from us" margin money from your friendly (till something goes wrong) broker. The "real" stock market has long disappeared and replaced by the Dow Casino. Place your bets the wheel is spinning. You just better hope that people do not sense a "Black Swan" event in all of this and start selling enmass. Then the margin calls (from your now not so friendly broker) will start coming and the 90% of investors playing with the house's money will have to pony up some of their actual cash as their source of borrowing has called in their marker. World stock market are teetering houses of cards that are waiting for a North wind to come along. Don't be caught like the 3 little pigs with the big bad wolf outside the door of their straw house. PS from the sounds of your article your British and you did not transfer any funds over for a rainy day thinking that the bureaucrats would carry the day.

Sounds just like the bar stool experts I try to avoid with a passion....?

[MissAndry]

The difference between then and now is that centuries ago their island made them remote and untouchable, while today the same has isolated them.

Untouchable to whom?

Don't forget the Romans, then the Saxons managed to get there, and the Vikings, that Norman chap, what was his name .... William,

Edited June 26, 2016 by MissAndry

[Naam]

The difference between then and now is that centuries ago their island made them remote and untouchable, while today the same has isolated them.

Untouchable to whom?

Don't forget the Romans, then the Saxons managed to get there, and the Vikings, that Norman chap, what was his name .... William,

and the inventor of the cigarette, the Dude Duke of Marlborough

[Naam]

What the Exiteers gain? Economic disaster!!!

And of course people like you ,who are so superior ,know far more than us lemmings who voted to leave , well us lemmings won ,so suck it up loser .

suck it up loser

yesterday evening my wife made a similar remark, directed at me, but her diction was slightly more polite

[overherebc]

Just some figures for NI contributions in UK.

Based on annual average salaries 1970 to 2000.

Average person paid around 220 a year in 1970

Average person paid around 3450 in 2000.

In total over 30 years average payment is around 50,000.

These payments entitle them to the minimum pension to start when they are 67 years old

Take someone who started work aged 20 in 1970 and will work another 17 years after 2000, until they are 67.

They will probably pay in excess of 100,000 over 47 years work, and most likely live another 15 years, many won't make it that far. A windfall for the government.

I don't accept the government telling me, or to be honest, future gov' pension holders it's getting too expensive to pay it now.

I had some good advice a few years ago and paid for two other private pensions so luckily don't have to rely on only one source of income.

Edited June 26, 2016 by overherebc

[HauptmannUK]

According to the Office for National Statistics approximately 23Million of the British population will retire over the next 15 years. On current figures 14 Million will enter the workforce. A deficit og 9 million. Gove and Boris are aware of these statistics and know full well that reducing immigration is not an option. Two leave MP's have already stated on TV that they would not reduce immigration but 'control' it with a points based system. This sounds fine, but actually the need for low skills (care homes, food production) it greater than for high skills. Large scale immigration will inevitably continue. Once the public realise this deception all hell will break loose. Particularly if they are hit by rising prices, a weak economy and unemployment.

I think Gove and Boris never expected to win - it was a stunt to move the Tories to the right and get Boris the PM job. Boris was never a committed leaver, having previously spoken in favour of the EU.

[JHolmesJr]

The LEAVE campaign won in a 100% fair and free democratic purposes….so why lambast them….do we pour scorn on americans when they vote in an idiot warmonger as President?

This was an important decision and nothing important is ever achieved without a cost.

The british people paid a heavy cost during WW2 as well…but they achieved something…and it wasn't achieved overnight.

The Brits have shown tremendous courage, yet again, to make a brave decision…. they now rely on their leaders to perform…instead of selling the country to the needs of corporations looking to maximise profits.

There will be bad news to follow, for months to come, but that doesn't mean that a bad decision was made…we need to see how things pan out over the next 5-10 years at least.

One thing is for sure…this development has people all over the world secretly admiring the balls of the British people…while their governments are shitting bricks at the prospect of their people making similar brave decisions in future. So, understandably there will be a lot of reports coming from everywhere about what a bad decision this was…but ordinary people have just had it with the crooked allegiance between politicians and businesses.

[HauptmannUK]

Just been watch French TV news - French foreign office minister just saying that migrants camped in Calais are not a French problem. Wants to terminate border inspections in France ASAP and move them to the UK. Once the UK leaves the EU the 'Dublin Convention' will no longer apply (i.e. the UK will not be able to send asylum seekers back to the EU country from which they arrived) - minister says asylum seekers in France en-route to the UK will no longer be a French problem. It seems the French will be very pleased to wash their hands of this problem. Interesting times ahead!

[NanLaew]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html?campaign_id=A100&campaign_type=Email

Brexit: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they wanted 'protest vote' and thought UK would stay in EU

Some said they had not forseen the immediate economic impact, while others were angry at Nigel Faraga's admisison that NHS funding claim was a 'mistake'

It's not my fault, Mummy, Jeremy did it! Perhaps if they had reduced the voting age to 10 they might have got a better result!

Still, I think - looking on the bright side - that some good may come of it, in about 10-30 years. The Brits could realize for instance that what they need is a federation. There are 2 reasons for having a federal system - large geographical size, which obviously doesn't apply in the case of Little Britain; or ethnic problems, which obviously do. In this latter case, you set up a 2-tier system of government to give those with a chip on the shoulder the illusion of independence & sovereignty.

Meantime, ...

Britain start to look more and more like Thailand, populated by millions of illiterate and uneducated xenophobes.

No wonder so many Brits come on holiday here.

Interestingly enough . After the Brexit vote the EU has decided to look at the possiblities of giving Sovereign members more control over their own Borders. So the Leavers obviously had some valid points. If the UK Parliament decides to ignore the result then that is the end of Democracy. The difficult things are where to now? But hopefully as has been the case in times of crisis and change a new Captain will arise. A Country that once ruled a huge Empire and pioneered the Industrial revolution may not regain its former glory. But surely all the seeds of rejuvenation are not dead in the Garden.

And immediately after their arse puckering 'win' at the Scottish independence vote, the collective Westminster muppetry also said they would look at the possibilities made vague promises about devolution for the Welsh, Geordies and the 'Northern Powerhouse'... whatever that is. Anyone read any recent reports about a more devolved British government? Anyone?

The European federalists are the ones pulling up the drawbridge.

But please, PLEASE don't give the car keys to BoJo.

[NanLaew]

Just been watch French TV news - French foreign office minister just saying that migrants camped in Calais are not a French problem. Wants to terminate border inspections in France ASAP and move them to the UK. Once the UK leaves the EU the 'Dublin Convention' will no longer apply (i.e. the UK will not be able to send asylum seekers back to the EU country from which they arrived) - minister says asylum seekers in France en-route to the UK will no longer be a French problem. It seems the French will be very pleased to wash their hands of this problem. Interesting times ahead!

And I am pretty sure that the European Community laws that forbade the British from rejecting 90% of the so-called asylum seekers will similarly prevent the Mayor of Calais and anyone else south of La Manche from packing the migrant camp occupants on boats and sending them across The English Channel.

[vogie]

Just been watch French TV news - French foreign office minister just saying that migrants camped in Calais are not a French problem. Wants to terminate border inspections in France ASAP and move them to the UK. Once the UK leaves the EU the 'Dublin Convention' will no longer apply (i.e. the UK will not be able to send asylum seekers back to the EU country from which they arrived) - minister says asylum seekers in France en-route to the UK will no longer be a French problem. It seems the French will be very pleased to wash their hands of this problem. Interesting times ahead!

It was a local minister that said that, the French government has said nothing will change!

[HauptmannUK]

I watched the French foreign minister saying this live on French TV a couple of hours ago!

[ThaiPauly]

This is just the start of all the problems the UK will have to face because of the Brexit vote.

What a disaster for our country.

[samuibeachcomber]

I believe the blame for this debacle lies squarely at the feet of the un elected commissars in brussels.

their penchant for living off taxpayers money,driving around in limo's and constant free lunches,

introducing ridiculous laws plus the european court of justice banning countries from expelling undesirables because of their so called human rights.People are fed up with it.

I do feel sorry for the young ones who feel betrayed,who feel their life and prospects have been cut from underneath them.

If brexit does indeed go ahead,the breakup of the UK seems inevitable,england and wales on their own will have a smaller say in world affairs.

But on a positive note the two nations will have control of their own destiny,The EU in all its glory is on a slippery slope anyway,the tide is turning in all western countries as people are fed up with the "establishment" political correctness etc..and now nationalism is taking hold as people have had enough with being told what to do by unelected idiots.Maybe it wont all be so bad for the younger generation,but so much uncertainty for europeans living in the UK and for britons in europe,a strong guiding hand will be required,

[JHolmesJr]

Just been watch French TV news - French foreign office minister just saying that migrants camped in Calais are not a French problem. Wants to terminate border inspections in France ASAP and move them to the UK. Once the UK leaves the EU the 'Dublin Convention' will no longer apply (i.e. the UK will not be able to send asylum seekers back to the EU country from which they arrived) - minister says asylum seekers in France en-route to the UK will no longer be a French problem. It seems the French will be very pleased to wash their hands of this problem. Interesting times ahead!

Just goes to show there is no real camaraderie in the EU....and whatever little there is, is just for appearances. It was and will always be about controlling business.

Edited June 26, 2016 by JHolmesJr

[samuibeachcomber]

This is just the start of all the problems the UK will have to face because of the Brexit vote.

What a disaster for our country.

It could be..a steady hand is needed,good lawyers and financiers plus brexit politicians,I think this has a long way to play out.If brexit is going to happen things need to be fast tracked quickly..the remainers have been caught out and they're not happy,if things get out of hand it become nasty.Cameron will be judged to have played a very poor hand,and yet the guy,i believe,is decent,but out of his depth politically.

[cumgranosalum]

What do they get? The eternal praise and admiration from all their intelligent friends.......either that or a T-shirt that says "I voted stupid" on the front and "kick me" on the back. If past performance is anything to go by, they'll wear it without reading it.

[ThaiPauly]

I now really wish I had voted, and I am sure many others who were in the Remain camp feel the same. It's my own fault, I stood by thinking that there was no way Remain would lose.

Som na na, as they say here

[elliss]

I now really wish I had voted, and I am sure many others who were in the Remain camp feel the same. It's my own fault, I stood by thinking that there was no way Remain would lose.

Som na na, as they say here

Fyi , the next / new , Tory Goverment ,[ mission achieved }, will negotiate a new deal , surprise surprise .

Truth is , we have never really been , totally in the EU, because we still use GBP.

New Goverment will insist . Euro , is the name of the game.

DC, JC. Rip. asap.

Edited June 26, 2016 by elliss

[Berkshire]

The LEAVE campaign won in a 100% fair and free democratic purposes….so why lambast them….do we pour scorn on americans when they vote in an idiot warmonger as President?

If America votes in Trump, then we would absolutely deserve worldwide scorn (and pity) for our incredible stupidity.

One thing is for sure…this development has people all over the world secretly admiring the balls of the British people…while their governments are shitting bricks at the prospect of their people making similar brave decisions in future. So, understandably there will be a lot of reports coming from everywhere about what a bad decision this was…but ordinary people have just had it with the crooked allegiance between politicians and businesses.

Sorry, but there is no secret admiring of the British people. I do understand the concept of the "protest vote" with the sincere belief that Brexit could never happen. But too many people fell for the scaremongering and xenophobia, so much so that I almost want to say they deserve it. But many of the more reasonable and sensible folks are getting screwed as well.

As for the thread title, I doubt any of the leave supporters will be able to articulate how it benefits them personally. Because it doesn't.