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Heat is on for "Lady Kai" in Rich vs Poor theft case

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BANGKOK: -- Pressure is being stepped up in the Rich vs Poor theft case that is gripping the nation. Details are sketchy but a top policeman says "there is a case to answer".

The case revolves around a hi-so woman named only as "Kai" who has claimed that a number of people who came to work for her stole millions of baht of property, reported Manager Online. The females were accused after lucrative job offers to work in Hong Kong were turned down.

Yesterday morning crime suppression police CSD) went to a prison to interview a woman who Lady Kai claimed had taken 3.26 million baht from her following complaints from her daughter to a lawyer who is handling the case.

Sukanya Sirimuang was a former employee of Lady Kai who was referred to in yesterday's reports as Mrs Kai as her fall from grace begins to gather pace.

CSD spokesman Jakkrit Sawatdee said that he could not yet reveal the details of the interview as the case is ongoing but he said that there was definitely a case to answer. He assured the public that as details were clarified that the truth would come out. He urged other victims to come forward and give evidence in the case and assured people that there would be help available for bail applications.

Some arrest warrants for people the hi so woman said stole from her are still outstanding. Police have been urged to speed up their handling of the case after public outcry.

Lawyer Songkan who is representing many complainants in the case said that three other cases pending with Prachacheun police are now in hand.

The case originally blew up when a student called Koy said that LadyKai had accused her of stealing ten million baht after she turned down a job off in Hong Kong that would pay her 2 - 5 million baht. Koy was held for several months before emerging to ask for justice from the CSD after investigations at the local station failed to exonerate her and her family.

Source: Manager Online

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Haven't seen the story before so this article is really confusing. Who's being investigated, who's in custody, who's got a case to answer?

Can't work out what is going on here.

Hidden in this story is a probable human trafficking case...

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Haven't seen the story before so this article is really confusing. Who's being investigated, who's in custody, who's got a case to answer?

Can't work out what is going on here.

The cliffs: a lady named "Kai" hires a man and a woman to do chores for her around the house. Sometime later the daughter of the man and woman is hired to look after Kai's cat. Kai makes a seemingly suspicious proposal to the daughter to work in Hong Kong for 2-5 million baht (unknown job description). The daughter refuses on multiple occasions until the whole family decide to up and leave due to the pressure being put on the daughter to go to HK. Shortly after Kai accuses the daughter of theft in the range of 10 million baht. The daughter spend 6 months in jail thus causing her to possibly forfeit her university education where she would have pursued engineering. The case receives social media attention after the daughter hires a lawyer to fight her case and other girls who have been accused of theft by Kai/spent time in jail start to come forward with very similar circumstances. Social media is now pressuring police for a full investigation into the details Edited by CanInBKK
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The old bag's husband is reportedly a senior cop. If he has pushed other BIB to proceed with cases based on accusations alone, he should be charged as a co-conspirator.

Don't know why his position has been ignored in latest reports, but I can guess.

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Why is it only after social media outcry do authorities sit up and start to listen.

Hi-so bitch thinking she can mess up poor peoples lives by claiming theft.

Sounds more like attempted human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution.

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Why is it only after social media outcry do authorities sit up and start to listen.

Hi-so bitch thinking she can mess up poor peoples lives by claiming theft.

Sounds more like attempted human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution.

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One cannot sit on a chair infested with bed bugs...

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Haven't seen the story before so this article is really confusing. Who's being investigated, who's in custody, who's got a case to answer?

Can't work out what is going on here.

The cliffs: a lady named "Kai" hires a man and a woman to do chores for her around the house. Sometime later the daughter of the man and woman is hired to look after Kai's cat. Kai makes a seemingly suspicious proposal to the daughter to work in Hong Kong for 2-5 million baht (unknown job description). The daughter refuses on multiple occasions until the whole family decide to up and leave due to the pressure being put on the daughter to go to HK. Shortly after Kai accuses the daughter of theft in the range of 10 million baht. The daughter spend 6 months in jail thus causing her to possibly forfeit her university education where she would have pursued engineering. The case receives social media attention after the daughter hires a lawyer to fight her case and other girls who have been accused of theft by Kai/spent time in jail start to come forward with very similar circumstances. Social media is now pressuring police for a full investigation into the details

well done, you should write 'new viewers begin here' bits for tv serials.

reckon you could do game of thrones in a page.

perhaps hop in on most tvisa threads after the third page on most threads.

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Haven't seen the story before so this article is really confusing. Who's being investigated, who's in custody, who's got a case to answer?

Can't work out what is going on here.

The cliffs: a lady named "Kai" hires a man and a woman to do chores for her around the house. Sometime later the daughter of the man and woman is hired to look after Kai's cat. Kai makes a seemingly suspicious proposal to the daughter to work in Hong Kong for 2-5 million baht (unknown job description). The daughter refuses on multiple occasions until the whole family decide to up and leave due to the pressure being put on the daughter to go to HK. Shortly after Kai accuses the daughter of theft in the range of 10 million baht. The daughter spend 6 months in jail thus causing her to possibly forfeit her university education where she would have pursued engineering. The case receives social media attention after the daughter hires a lawyer to fight her case and other girls who have been accused of theft by Kai/spent time in jail start to come forward with very similar circumstances. Social media is now pressuring police for a full investigation into the details

well done, you should write 'new viewers begin here' bits for tv serials.

reckon you could do game of thrones in a page.

perhaps hop in on most tvisa threads after the third page on most threads.

Would love to see game of thrones in a page myself just quietly. Awesome challenge perhaps one for falang pub?

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video of Lady Gai from her side of the story.

some key point to note. She has just appointed an attorney just 2 hrs before the this interview which is the one we see in this video.

lady Gai mention that from the 3mil baht case when the alleged thief (mother of Nong Min, Sukanya) went missing she withdrew 1million baht from the bank and left it in the room.upon noticing Sukanya missing, she called up the police without checking to what was missing in her room and invited the police to check her what is in her room. Police reported to lady gai that there is only 150,000 baht in the room and lady Gai then realised her 1mil baht is gone.

2nd case of 10million baht. It has been cleared in this video that the amount missing is not 10million baht, but only 800,000 baht in gold.

Same thing. Lady Gai upon discovering that Nong Goy's family are missing from work, went straight to the police without checking to see what was missing. The police contacted Nong Goy's family and the family went straight to the police station and upon finding that the family has nothing on them and Lady Gai has not yet known what was missing n hence no case released them.

But according to Lady Gai, she claims Nong Goy family upon reaching the station were very hostile and Nong Goy sister even kick her in the station.

and when the police went with lady gai back to her home and check her room, when the police upon checking her safe, she kinda fainted and shock and fell so sick to discover her gold missing that the police had to take that as evidence that gold indeed was missing from the safe cos of her reaction. which was 800,000 baht missing in gold.

lady gai claims that her room is always lock and everything kept in her safe. on the day that the theft occured. she claims to have forgotten to lock her safe. and when question on her locked room, she claims nong goy family must have manage to unlock it themselves in a way without forcing open the locked door.

lady gai claims to have 13 kids adopted and are helping giving them money for education and living.

a worker of hers also called in to give her credit that she is a good person and even sends money to help her even now that she is not working for lady gai anymore.

lady claims to have given away 200 million baht in charity.

1 point that i find it strange is that if someone felt that he or she has lost something, money, iphone the initial reaction would be to straightaway go n search n clarify if it is indeed lost by thoroughly searching all last known locations of the missing money or item no matter how small.

I find it strange that lady gai when notice ppl missing from her work place does not straight away go n confirm what is missing. but to go n contact the police n invite them to come n do a search of her room or house and then reports what is missing after.

for me it goes against human nature.

if u have ever lost something or had something stolen from you no matter the amount or the value.

you would know that feeling and know what i am talking about.

and oh the 10million baht missing was a typo on documents by the police. its 800,000 baht missing now.

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in this video both Nong Goy and Nong Min are both interviewed



Nong Goy claims innocence and challenges lady gai for cctv video evidence.


She mention that just before she decides to escape with her family, she was brought into lady gai's room and threatened


lady gai says she is someone of high social standing and knows alot of ppl with power and lady gai has send countless ppl into jail b4.


if nong goy does not go to HK, her family will be framed.



for Nong Min mother Sukanya, why Sukanya decides to leave her work place is becos Sukanya claims work abuse from Lady Gai.


Sukanya has left once b4 after 10 days. but returned after lady gai promises higher pay.


Sukanya still cannot stand lady gai's abuse and decided to leave after pay day. on the pay day, lady gai was not in and a policeman as claim by Sukanya


came on behalf of lady gai to pay 12000 baht, but Sukanya claims to be owe 15000 baht instead. and another 3000 baht from the previous 10 days.


short of 6000baht,an angered Sukanya claims to take a bag of coins belonging to lady gai b4 she left claiming it as pay owed to her.


lady gai went to the station to report theft and Sukanya took the bag of coins to the station to return it.


Sukanya told her daughter Nong Min she was forced to write statements that she confessed to 3million baht in theft.


When Sukanya ask why was this neccessary? lady gai says its to save the face of lady gai's according to Nong Min's mother.


Sukanya refused but comply after she claims she was threatened by the police that her family will be implicated and harm if she does not write down the statement.



Lawyer Songkran states that how can a typo happened in the case of Nong Goy? when both 10-8million baht worth of missing gold and money was both written down in Thai and Arabic Numerals and not 800,000baht.



Songkran also questions the the statement of Sukanya, Nong Min's mother as the language written far surpassed the level of Sukanya's when she only has primary school level education. The language in the confession was very professional and language of a person who knows the law very well.



Songkran says that now that its 800,000 baht the case and bail amount for the parents of Nong Goy should now be lightened accordingly.



There is 1 more case of NooNa that has happened b4 Nong Goy and a few more that will be surfacing soon from Lawyer Songkran


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sorry for reposting this from another post. I know that most here cannot understand thai.

My wish is for this case to catch as much international attention as possible so that there can be some pressure of some sort

to prosecute this case if it really is a case of false accusations, human trafficking and prostitution.

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video of Lady Gai from her side of the story.

some key point to note. She has just appointed an attorney just 2 hrs before the this interview which is the one we see in this video.

lady Gai mention that from the 3mil baht case when the alleged thief (mother of Nong Min, Sukanya) went missing she withdrew 1million baht from the bank and left it in the room.upon noticing Sukanya missing, she called up the police without checking to what was missing in her room and invited the police to check her what is in her room. Police reported to lady gai that there is only 150,000 baht in the room and lady Gai then realised her 1mil baht is gone.

2nd case of 10million baht. It has been cleared in this video that the amount missing is not 10million baht, but only 800,000 baht in gold.

Same thing. Lady Gai upon discovering that Nong Goy's family are missing from work, went straight to the police without checking to see what was missing. The police contacted Nong Goy's family and the family went straight to the police station and upon finding that the family has nothing on them and Lady Gai has not yet known what was missing n hence no case released them.

But according to Lady Gai, she claims Nong Goy family upon reaching the station were very hostile and Nong Goy sister even kick her in the station.

and when the police went with lady gai back to her home and check her room, when the police upon checking her safe, she kinda fainted and shock and fell so sick to discover her gold missing that the police had to take that as evidence that gold indeed was missing from the safe cos of her reaction. which was 800,000 baht missing in gold.

lady gai claims that her room is always lock and everything kept in her safe. on the day that the theft occured. she claims to have forgotten to lock her safe. and when question on her locked room, she claims nong goy family must have manage to unlock it themselves in a way without forcing open the locked door.

lady gai claims to have 13 kids adopted and are helping giving them money for education and living.

a worker of hers also called in to give her credit that she is a good person and even sends money to help her even now that she is not working for lady gai anymore.

lady claims to have given away 200 million baht in charity.

1 point that i find it strange is that if someone felt that he or she has lost something, money, iphone the initial reaction would be to straightaway go n search n clarify if it is indeed lost by thoroughly searching all last known locations of the missing money or item no matter how small.

I find it strange that lady gai when notice ppl missing from her work place does not straight away go n confirm what is missing. but to go n contact the police n invite them to come n do a search of her room or house and then reports what is missing after.

for me it goes against human nature.

if u have ever lost something or had something stolen from you no matter the amount or the value.

you would know that feeling and know what i am talking about.

and oh the 10million baht missing was a typo on documents by the police. its 800,000 baht missing now.

please stop calling her "lady"

but thank you for your translation

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video of Lady Gai from her side of the story.

some key point to note. She has just appointed an attorney just 2 hrs before the this interview which is the one we see in this video.

lady Gai mention that from the 3mil baht case when the alleged thief (mother of Nong Min, Sukanya) went missing she withdrew 1million baht from the bank and left it in the room.upon noticing Sukanya missing, she called up the police without checking to what was missing in her room and invited the police to check her what is in her room. Police reported to lady gai that there is only 150,000 baht in the room and lady Gai then realised her 1mil baht is gone.

2nd case of 10million baht. It has been cleared in this video that the amount missing is not 10million baht, but only 800,000 baht in gold.

Same thing. Lady Gai upon discovering that Nong Goy's family are missing from work, went straight to the police without checking to see what was missing. The police contacted Nong Goy's family and the family went straight to the police station and upon finding that the family has nothing on them and Lady Gai has not yet known what was missing n hence no case released them.

But according to Lady Gai, she claims Nong Goy family upon reaching the station were very hostile and Nong Goy sister even kick her in the station.

and when the police went with lady gai back to her home and check her room, when the police upon checking her safe, she kinda fainted and shock and fell so sick to discover her gold missing that the police had to take that as evidence that gold indeed was missing from the safe cos of her reaction. which was 800,000 baht missing in gold.

lady gai claims that her room is always lock and everything kept in her safe. on the day that the theft occured. she claims to have forgotten to lock her safe. and when question on her locked room, she claims nong goy family must have manage to unlock it themselves in a way without forcing open the locked door.

lady gai claims to have 13 kids adopted and are helping giving them money for education and living.

a worker of hers also called in to give her credit that she is a good person and even sends money to help her even now that she is not working for lady gai anymore.

lady claims to have given away 200 million baht in charity.

1 point that i find it strange is that if someone felt that he or she has lost something, money, iphone the initial reaction would be to straightaway go n search n clarify if it is indeed lost by thoroughly searching all last known locations of the missing money or item no matter how small.

I find it strange that lady gai when notice ppl missing from her work place does not straight away go n confirm what is missing. but to go n contact the police n invite them to come n do a search of her room or house and then reports what is missing after.

for me it goes against human nature.

if u have ever lost something or had something stolen from you no matter the amount or the value.

you would know that feeling and know what i am talking about.

and oh the 10million baht missing was a typo on documents by the police. its 800,000 baht missing now.

Presumably the attorneys first attempt at a defense after 2 hours on the job. The bit about fainting when the safe is opened in front of police - priceless.

200 million ThB given away to charity, sponsorship of poor people, generous to ex-employees. Highly commendable. I'm sure she can show the source of all these funds.

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Presumably the attorneys first attempt at a defense after 2 hours on the job. The bit about fainting when the safe is opened in front of police - priceless.

200 million ThB given away to charity, sponsorship of poor people, generous to ex-employees. Highly commendable. I'm sure she can show the source of all these funds.

well when enquired about the source of her income. Gai answered vaguely that she likes to gamble with luck. Thats how she got rich.

and she would provide all answers to the nature of her income and business in due time after consulting her lawyer.

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The authorities hopefully check her tax returns. The returns of her policeman husband probably should be looked at too. Oh, and if that money was brought in from overseas (Hong Kong) was it laundered? They jailed a European for making money from a smoke shop in Holland, should be same with her.

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Haven't seen the story before so this article is really confusing. Who's being investigated, who's in custody, who's got a case to answer?

Can't work out what is going on here.

The outcry is because they were and are still banged up on false charges.

No doubt the clear indication of attempted trafficking will be 'forgotten' as soon as too many 'names' are implicated.

The Internet has changed everything forever, and the sooner the establishment gets it, and cleans up the entire stinking purifying mess they've made of their own society, the better off everyone will be.

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