webfact Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Koh Samui municipality to use canvas to cover garbageSAMUI: -- Faced with a mountain of accumulated garbage estimated at about 250,000 tonnes and a malfunctioned incinerator, Koh Samui municipality has come up with an idea to temporarily solve the problem – to buy rubber-coated canvas to cover the huge garbage.A special budget has been sought for the purchase of the canvas and a number of backhoes are currently at work at the dump site next to the malfunctioned incinerator to prepare the land to accommodate the garbage and to cover it up with canvas.Koh Samui mayor Ramnate Jaikwang said that the municipality had received many complaints from residents living around the landfill of the foul smell and putrid water seeping out of the dump site.He added that the municipality would dig a pond to store the putrid water before it is delivered to a waste water treatment plant. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/170738-2/ -- Thai PBS 2016-07-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Brilliant idea !! cover it with canvas then the problem will go away Residents are complaining about the smell, so covering it will not solve the problem. Out of sight out of mind, brilliant thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 God help us if they knew what they are doing. What brain advises them ? Where do they come up with these silly solutions? It does not solve anything, what a farce. Give them half a brain & they will be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 If they got a special budget allocation to buy the cover, how about a special budget allocation to fix the incinerator? Or, heaven forbid, upgrade it to something that will actually do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I hope they promoted the genius that thought this up Thainess at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Ahh....the sweep it under the carpet approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Ahh....the sweep it under the carpet approach. Dont they treat every problem like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 canvas? i thought villas were the norm on this island? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 in Phnom Phen they did the same some years ago, maybe still today. You could call it swiping it under the carpet. These geniuses don't think about the lethal acids from the trash going into the ground water... Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihalis Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 If they got a special budget allocation to buy the cover, how about a special budget allocation to fix the incinerator? Or, heaven forbid, upgrade it to something that will actually do the job. To stubborn to do so.... Canvas, can u imagine the stench, once it all starts baking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Cheap real estate for sale. I wouldn't have it for free though. Corruption is off the scale on that Island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I do recall about 10 years ago a Pom trying to sell the recycling concept in Phuket it was like speaking Greek to them, Thais know best and can live on a mountain of garbage for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaaaason Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 There are several new types of waste operations that are semi portable and dispose of the garbage in a completely environmentally friendly way. I have personally seen these operating in Holland,and Germany. I was involved in the installation of two in China. They can operate next to residential areas ,produce either electricity or methane gas-subject to the type chosen and do not produce any environmental pollutants,zero emissions and are very economical to purchase......I do not understand why Thailand does not install one or two at this site to correct the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Why not just torch the lot of it while they are coming up with such amazing solutions !!! Someone should be asking where the money allocated in surrathanni for samui has gone because it didn't reach here. Although I am seeing a lot more s class Mercs around samui !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchonrocks Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 The canvas will accelerate the putrification process by increasing anaerobic activity within the pile. If they were smart, they would seek to capture the methane generated but sounds like that is beyond their brain capacity. The big problem also will be the nasty chemical brew of tailings that will result. I would not go anywhere near this island with this environmental disaster is playing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Will be interesting to see what they will do when the first people get seriously sick or even die [not only one] !!! That's what WILL happen ... unless they get rid of the problem. This will turn into a real nightmare pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ok ok. how much will the on going costs of covering the trash and treating the run off cost per year? how much will it cost to get the burner up and running? surely getting the burner running is the long term cheaper option. band aid or cure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 There are several new types of waste operations that are semi portable and dispose of the garbage in a completely environmentally friendly way. I have personally seen these operating in Holland,and Germany. I was involved in the installation of two in China. They can operate next to residential areas ,produce either electricity or methane gas-subject to the type chosen and do not produce any environmental pollutants,zero emissions and are very economical to purchase......I do not understand why Thailand does not install one or two at this site to correct the problem They just don't have the brains for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 God help us if they knew what they are doing. What brain advises them ? Where do they come up with these silly solutions? It does not solve anything, what a farce. Give them half a brain & they will be dangerous. It is an experience, no one ever did it the world over, they are kind of precursors so try to think positively Roo... ...OK you cannot understand because no one in your familly or friends is in the canvas business Pffffff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 There are several new types of waste operations that are semi portable and dispose of the garbage in a completely environmentally friendly way. I have personally seen these operating in Holland,and Germany. I was involved in the installation of two in China. They can operate next to residential areas ,produce either electricity or methane gas-subject to the type chosen and do not produce any environmental pollutants,zero emissions and are very economical to purchase......I do not understand why Thailand does not install one or two at this site to correct the problem They just don't have the brains for it... You have to whisper ideas like that to a General and speak no more of it yourself, then it may happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Out of sight out of mind way of thinking. Pity the disease that will be generated wont think the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american12bthai Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 AWESOME IDEA! isnt that how garbage dumps EXPLODE!? he is joking right? Unless hes trying to get methane or some recycled gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I'm pretty sure rats can eat through canvas. What does sun do to rubber? Or, will they build a roof over it to stop the rubber from deteriorating? Maybe they should ask each tourist to take 2 kilos with them when they leave? They could package it up nicely, and come up with a theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 AWESOME IDEA! isnt that how garbage dumps EXPLODE!? he is joking right? Unless hes trying to get methane or some recycled gas. Maybe they think the explosion will get rid of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Cover it over with rubber sheets,then it will heat up and catch fire,a fire that would be very difficult to extinguish, smoke will cover the island,would it not be easier to fix the incinerator.for a long term solution. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 they did not say what colour the tarpaulin will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain150 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 For anybody who think this is something to make jokes about: If the chemicals in the garbage [and there are many of them] get into the ground water then it's game over Koh Samui !!! People WILL get seriously sick and people WILL die from this !!! Obviously the people in charge here on Samui are willing to sacrefice the whole island to some short term money and are not shy to come up with the most redicolus ideas anybody could have. There is no "long term" in this issue !!! They can solve the problem in a rather short term [because that's all they will have] or they cannot solve it at all anymore. As soon as the garbage "burns" into the ground there is nothing that can be done anymore. The garbage needs to be dug out and transported off the island. The garbage under the top layer can not be treated on the island any more !!! There is probably not even a company in Thailand that could transport this shit savely ... So please: This is damn serious stuff. Probably the biggest problem the island has right now. And it's literally about life and death for many people living on the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amja Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 If you can not see it, the sh*t is´nt there! (Old thai saying) Amja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B166ER Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 ....jebus.....have ya all seen the land fill right outside the airport gate? Seriously.....sources tell me one can fly in and see the carnage one, two , three, four, five major distribution centers of commercial goods can do to a roughly 25KM by 25KM island....in a matter of less than ten years it's become now an item of concern to all who live there. They tell me this is the first year that it's now a Major concern cause it's not seeming to go away. How could it? Locals are a contributor as well as tourists. All contribute to the ever expanding pile of accumulated wealth debris. The island however beautiful some may still find it to be has been ravaged to a point where pep's are complaining about it. That's a shot across the bow no matter what one says cause years ago it seems not one person had a reason to mention anything. There will be no solution to this mess....it will continue till eventually the tourists will NOT come and the Samuites catch on to the fact that ....well....ha ha....that'll never happen....mai pen rai.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futsukayoi Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 If they got a special budget allocation to buy the cover, how about a special budget allocation to fix the incinerator? Or, heaven forbid, upgrade it to something that will actually do the job. But the governor's relative has a business which can provide canvas at only 5 times the market rate. None of his relatives fix incinerators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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