Pattaya Police Given Deadline for Extortion Investigation

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Pattaya Police Given Deadline for Extortion Investigation
Story by Albert Jack


Commissioner-General of the Royal Thai Police Pol. Gen. Chakthip Chaichinda calling for reform

Top cop has had enough and is insisting on reform in Pattaya

PATTAYA: -- The Pattaya Provincial Police Region 2 have been given thirty days days to investigate six Chon Buri policemen who allegedly tried to frame a karaoke bar owner with false charges of being involved in the sex trade and human trafficking.

The drama also involved the national police chief, who came to the victim’s aid.

Deputy police spokesman Pol Col Krissana Pattanacharoen said the six officers — including Pol Lt Col Narawut Karamahito, investigating inspector, and Pol Lt Jatuphum Limsiriwattanakul attached to the Inquiry Division of Provincial Police Region 2 — have been transferred to inactive posts at the Police Region Bureau pending an full inquiry pending into disciplinary violations.

Early this week, the two officers, together with four subordinates, were summoned to answer charges at Muang Pattaya station.

Full story: http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/228116/pattaya-police-given-deadline-extortion-investigation/

-- Pattaya One 2016-07-22

[ezzra]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

[Buzzz]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

They are transferred to a station where they get less a cut of the monthly corruption.

[adhd]

ah the police

where you can buy your promotion

and nobody asking where all that money is coming from, on a small government salary

where the police never goes to jail even caught with both hands in the cookie jar

[Buzzz]

ah the police

where you can buy your promotion

and nobody asking where all that money is coming from, on a small government salary

where the police never goes to jail even caught with both hands in the cookie jar

Usually no threat of prosecution / jail. They might talk about their boss and associates if facing court and a jail term. Nobody wants that.

They would turn an associate into 'fish food' before putting them thru court.

It's a circle of trust.

[waldroj]

"...Top cop has had enough and is insisting on reform in Pattaya..."

It would be easier for him just to change his phone number (then be extra careful who he gives it out to) - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/932543-bar-owner-gets-extorted-by-cop-calls-police-chief-to-intervene/.

[Suradit69]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

'that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,"

What are "rouge" policemen? Maybe some policewomen wear rouge, but not the men. And how do you have such inside information concerning Thai police and police in other countries. Another Bar Stool Crime Scene Investigator (BS-CSI)?

In FarangLand police can shoot people for no reason without any consequences. The chance of a policeman being suspended without pay or fired or sent to prison is minimal.

Edited July 22, 2016 by Rimmer
Off topic removed

[williamgeorgeallen]

cutting it pretty fine. normally takes at least a month to forget about things like this.

[lostmebike]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

'that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,"

What are "rouge" policemen? Maybe some policewomen wear rouge, but not the men. And how do you have such inside information concerning Thai police and police in other countries. Another Bar Stool Crime Scene Investigator (BS-CSI)?

In FarangLand police can shoot people for no reason without any consequences. The chance of a policeman being suspended without pay or fired or sent to prison is minimal.

Ezzra you've been told.

Our very own super-sleuth, Chief Inspector Suradit has spoken. He's on his way to arrest you right now.

[Rimmer]

A post quoting an edited off topic post has been removed

[kiwikeith]

ah the police

where you can buy your promotion

and nobody asking where all that money is coming from, on a small government salary

where the police never goes to jail even caught with both hands in the cookie jar

When you test to find a rotten egg you put them in a bowl of water and the rotten ones float.

If all the police in LOS were told to jump into the ocean the ones that sank to the bottom and died would be good ones and the ones floundering on the surface would be rotten.

[free123]

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

[Robm579]

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

What a croc of semi intelligible <deleted>... Did you give any thought before you wasted your opinion?

As ordinary tax paying individuals we have a right to expect a decent and honourable Police force that should uphold the laws and the values of society... That's why we have laws ...

Not endorse the "kudos" attached to the self important selfish B'stards that break those laws and "value" those that take the biggest slice of the pie...!

If you can't be bothered to "vote"... You end up with the Police force that you deserve...

[williamgeorgeallen]

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

What a croc of semi intelligible <deleted>... Did you give any thought before you wasted your opinion?

As ordinary tax paying individuals we have a right to expect a decent and honourable Police force that should uphold the laws and the values of society... That's why we have laws ...

Not endorse the "kudos" attached to the self important selfish B'stards that break those laws and "value" those that take the biggest slice of the pie...!

If you can't be bothered to "vote"... You end up with the Police force that you deserve...

very few of us pay tax other than VAT when we buy stuff. basically none of us can vote. police force was derived from the more powerful mafias in thailand over 100 years and given a very small operating budget. cops make their money from policing crime, becomes a very fine line between collecting fines and extortion. police force is what it is. has not even changed with a military government in power sorting everything out. not going to change regardless.

[williamgeorgeallen]

ah the police

where you can buy your promotion

and nobody asking where all that money is coming from, on a small government salary

where the police never goes to jail even caught with both hands in the cookie jar

When you test to find a rotten egg you put them in a bowl of water and the rotten ones float.

If all the police in LOS were told to jump into the ocean the ones that sank to the bottom and died would be good ones and the ones floundering on the surface would be rotten.

probably not a good test. thais are not good swimmers. you would have all the cops, good and bad, going to the bottom and no one left to collect the fines.

[dotpoom]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

At least they get transferred to inactive posts.....you might not believe this but in some countries they can shoot people and carry on as if nothing happened?

[free123]

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

What a croc of semi intelligible <deleted>... Did you give any thought before you wasted your opinion?

As ordinary tax paying individuals we have a right to expect a decent and honourable Police force that should uphold the laws and the values of society... That's why we have laws ...

Not endorse the "kudos" attached to the self important selfish B'stards that break those laws and "value" those that take the biggest slice of the pie...!

If you can't be bothered to "vote"... You end up with the Police force that you deserve...[/quote

read clear,,,,,, i said sure is wrong,,,, also i said the situation is created by the moral and mental vibrations of the inhabitants of the place ,,, that means choice and vote , action and activity for the good also includes the history of the place… the history another poster just mentioned here… ..,,,,,, the place inhabitants are thais and they hav e their own ways very very different to ours ,,,,,, about tax most small business never pay a cent u as a falang pay nitnoi sales tax and i am quiet sure no income tax here on ur income whatever sourc e this will be… .and i want to see a underpayed and underfinanced government official who dont open his purse to bribes of any kind ..,,, in the west they are well payed and still take money ,,,,

[joebrown]

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

What a croc of semi intelligible <deleted>... Did you give any thought before you wasted your opinion?

As ordinary tax paying individuals we have a right to expect a decent and honourable Police force that should uphold the laws and the values of society... That's why we have laws ...

Not endorse the "kudos" attached to the self important selfish B'stards that break those laws and "value" those that take the biggest slice of the pie...!

If you can't be bothered to "vote"... You end up with the Police force that you deserve...

If you live in Thailand on any sort of visa/Extension you are merely a 'guest' of the Kingdom, and as such have only those rights the powers (military/government) deem appropriate to your status. Being a taxpayer carries no rights whatsoever.

[Bangkok Barry]

Isn't it amusing that so many members accuse the police of quickly jumping to conclusions, while at the same time many members do exactly the same in criticizing the police. A top man is on the case and has demanded that it be dealt with quickly.

[Thomas Hannah]

Can someone show me a case were a police officer has been jailed in thailand.I have searched and cannot find one.

[Thomas Hannah]

Have you ever thought of becomming a comic on stage.

Isn't it amusing that so many members accuse the police of quickly jumping to conclusions, while at the same time many members do exactly the same in criticizing the police. A top man is on the case and has demanded that it be dealt with quickly.

[Dumbastheycome]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

Case under investigation and alledged transgressors removed to inactive posts until such time as allegations culminate in prosecutions same as other countries where allegations are similarly announced. Note that specific names are also already provided if name and shame is an important criteria ! Gulags of obscurity are from a realm that is being progressively being removed. Thailand has no gulags. But it does have an increasing number of ex police who have been offered the option of rapid unpaid departure from any duty at all !.

[ableguy]

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

Lay off the juice or whatever you are on before trying to sound like you know what you are talking about.

[sambum]

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,

some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and

soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

'that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,"

What are "rouge" policemen? Maybe some policewomen wear rouge, but not the men. And how do you have such inside information concerning Thai police and police in other countries. Another Bar Stool Crime Scene Investigator (BS-CSI)?

In FarangLand police can shoot people for no reason without any consequences. The chance of a policeman being suspended without pay or fired or sent to prison is minimal.

OK, "rouge" policemen = "rogue policemen" - a slip of the finger not worth getting your k******s in a twist about!

However, what I do find disconcerting (and have done for a while) is this constant stream/avalanche of police officers "transferred to inactive posts" for supposed wrongdoing.

It has been covered many times before in depth on TV, and I see no reason for going over old ground, but it is becoming more obvious to me by the day that the people that are entrusted to "protect and serve" are becoming less and less interested in following these principles, as the usual punishment for any deviation or wrongdoing (i.e. corruption, bribery, extortion etc) is "transferred to an inactive post". While I agree with the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", I would like to ask a question:- With the occasional exception, how often do we hear the results of any investigations against these officers that have been "transferred to inactive posts"? It would be interesting to know exactly how many officers are currently "transferred to inactive posts", how many have been charged, found guilty, and actually been sentenced and fired/sacked from their jobs over, say, the past five years, broken down on say, a yearly basis, and the results preferably acquired by an organisation not afffiliated with, or connected to the police?

As regards this statement:- "In FarangLand police can shoot people for no reason without any consequences. The chance of a policeman being suspended without pay or fired or sent to prison is minimal." :-

I would suggest that the poster checks the training programmes and tests that policemen or policewomen in "Farangland" have to undergo before they are actually allowed to carry a firearm, let alone the reports that have to be submitted and investigated when a firearm is actually used. In most instances, the officer does not carry a firearm as a matter of course, but this has to be authorised by a senior officer when the safety of the public is shown to be at risk. I am not referring to the US of A where "the right to carry arms" has shown how successful/unsuccessful such a policy can be, but to the many European countries where it is becoming increasingly difficult for the properly trained and experienced police to do their jobs. Imagine a typical scenario when, for instance, a bank is being robbed by criminals that are known to be armed. A senior officer has to give the go ahead (with just cause) for firearms to be issued to police that are properly trained in the use of them, and if these firearms are used, then a fully documented report has to be submitted after the incident. So "The chance of a policeman being suspended without pay or fired or sent to prison is minimal." is probably because the chance of a policeman having discharged his firearm unlawfully is minimal!

I am not a "police lover", and by virtue of the fact that they have had many powers granted to them that can, and have been abused by some, it shows that no system is perfect, but it appears to me that in this country particularly (but not only!), there is a lack of basic training in key areas (as outlined above). The police should be given a decent salary commensurate with their experience/abilities, promotion should be earned, not bought, NO policeman/woman should have to pay for his/her own uniform, or transport used in the line of duty, and most importantly of all, any policeman/woman convicted of wrong doing should be taken out of their "inactive post" - they should be "named and shamed" in order to "restore" ( ) faith in the system, and given the appropriate punishment.

Perhaps then you will begin to see a reduction in the "rouge" ("rogue") policemen mentioned by ezzra in his post! But as an "aside", the other most important point to be considered is that the above can only be achieved by ensuring that the same criteria applies to all levels of the police - lower AND upper echelons - which may be a more difficult problem to solve!

Edited July 22, 2016 by sambum

[Rimmer]

Some grammar police posts removed

[gemguy]

"Sargent Somchai, where is the book of lame excuses and plausible reasons......bring it to me"

"Meantime, round up the usual suspects and several people as scape goats...hurry ..this is urgent"

Cheers

[dieseldave1951]

in SOME western land in some

obviously you are the same sort of bar stool critic that you are coating ezzera as being,

if you can read and understand western news then you would find that most civilized european countries take a very dim view at police shooting civilians at random,(except the USA)

All police in civilized farang land (as you put it) have very tough and through training and can not buy their way into a force, also they are assessed to see if they are suitable to be carrying a gun,

not like here as has been reported many times (phuket the last if i recall)

it's obvious that rouge was men't to be rogue try to perfect your wording and spacing BEFORE you criticize others

Case closed... they have been transfer and that is that, that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,
some other country they name and shame, jail sentences, banished to the gulags of obscurity and
soon forgotten, not here, inactive post and than to another region like nothing happened.....

'that how they punish rouge policemen in this country,"

What are "rouge" policemen? Maybe some policewomen wear rouge, but not the men. And how do you have such inside information concerning Thai police and police in other countries. Another Bar Stool Crime Scene Investigator (BS-CSI)?

In FarangLand police can shoot people for no reason without any consequences. The chance of a policeman being suspended without pay or fired or sent to prison is minimal.

[dieseldave1951]

so you condone this way of(ahem) policing a country

its quite simple Thailand has a lot of money just look around Bangkok look at whats being built.

now ask your self why do the powers do not slow down a bit this massive construction and make the police better paid so they could do their job with out corruption ( or a lot less )

don't give idiots guns and power of arrest, have an assessment program so you get honest level headed reliable men and woman to be police, also get rid of this rediculous inactive posts system

suspend, assess, court,(if evidence warrants it )??and jailed fined fired whatever

it would be better if the police where police and not a PLC

what do u expec t ????? th is third world...and in most societys the most dumb and violent become cops so the represent the force of state and they happily exercise this power and when the state dont pay them well like sure in thailand u have to pay the cops simple as that ask urself what u would do under same circumstances sure is wrong but the world is the world and not the heavens as always created by the moral and mental vibrations of the beeings that inhabitate the place

[hanuman2543]

Can someone show me a case were a police officer has been jailed in thailand.I have searched and cannot find one.

Google:"Pongpat, DSI, prison"

[Pattaya28]

Why give "deadlines" ?

Let the Police do their job without "time" pressure.

Or are the "deadlines" to sweep this mess "under the carpet" quicker ?

Pity the "Red Bull" cop killers' case wasn't given a "deadline".