Small Pump and Timer for my Fountain Girls and Snake

[carlyai]

Such an incredible smart and resourceful lot in this forum and I would like some exaPERT advice.

SWMBO has this fountain, strategically located to bring luck (ain't won the lottery yet) and, everything else ....make good.

I want to connect up the girls and snake to a little water pump to get the fountain working. Anyone got specs and where available?

Also I would like to install a timer for the pump in the power outlet. Is there a timer/power outlet available that will fit in the 220V power receptical?

Would I need a sump or resivour for the water for the pump?

This is the power outlet that I want to put the combined timer/outlet in. Is there such a thing? I didn't really want to hang a timer off the power outlet.

These are My Girls and Naga (when I get drunk it looks like the Naga has more than one head?)

Probable like a typical small fountain, but I've never installed one.

[eyecatcher]

Carlyai;

Will you be setting these gnomes up within a larger pond as that would make the whole process of piping up,wiring up and using only one pump a whole lot easier.

I dont know for sure but otherwise i guess you will need several tiny pumps and routing the power cables all together somewhere

[KhunBENQ]

If only I knew what the exact size of the receptacle is?

On Thai websites you find timer switches with 60*60*32 mm.

Maybe too big?

https://portal.weloveshopping.com/product/L90310289

A rain protecting cover/housing would also be needed.

You should really consider mounting a water protected housing/enclosure at the wall over the outlet to have space for installation.

Edited July 23, 2016 by KhunBENQ

[carlyai]

If only I knew what the exact size of the receptacle is?

On Thai websites you find timer switches with 60*60*32 mm.

Maybe too big?

https://portal.weloveshopping.com/product/L90310289

A rain protecting cover/housing would also be needed.

You should really consider mounting a water protected housing/enclosure at the wall over the outlet to have space for installation.

[lopburi3]

Did not catch that on top photo but second photo clearly shows electric outlet to be on what appears to be an outside wall? That is going to be a seriously hard and messy process to make waterproof here in Thailand. The only outside outlet I have is a sealed outside type which had a protective plastic bag covering it. Rain water blows in all directions and will find the slightest hole.

[carlyai]

The receptacle is a standard Thai one, 90×55×40 mm.

I thought there may be some commercial timers that fit in the receptacle.

Maybe I can buy some electronics and make up a small timer to fit in the receptical with the power socket for the pump connection.

I have some waterproof covers for these recepticles.

Maybe a rethink?

[carlyai]

Carlyai;

Will you be setting these gnomes up within a larger pond as that would make the whole process of piping up,wiring up and using only one pump a whole lot easier.

I dont know for sure but otherwise i guess you will need several tiny pumps and routing the power cables all together somewhere

[carlyai]

Setting up just as it is. Temp/perm installation until/if/when I get the pool done.This outlet is eventually for the pool pump (hopefully).

I really only wanted one small pump to supply the water outlets: the snakes heads snd the 4 girls. So the output of the pump would feed the snakes heads and the girls.

Edited July 23, 2016 by carlyai

[carlyai]

Did not catch that on top photo but second photo clearly shows electric outlet to be on what appears to be an outside wall? That is going to be a seriously hard and messy process to make waterproof here in Thailand. The only outside outlet I have is a sealed outside type which had a protective plastic bag covering it. Rain water blows in all directions and will find the slightest hole.

[carlyai]

Hi Lop3.

I do have some waterproof covers.

Maybe have to think again.

Hopefully someone who is familiar with fish tanks can tell me what model pump I would need.

[worgeordie]

I don't think what you are looking to achieve would be possible,

you would need to buy 5 small pumps,they are not expensive,

BUT the cable on them is usually quite short,so joining them

together and at the same time making the connection waterproof

would not be easy.

Then you would be giving yourself a lot of work,as the pumps

would require cleaning every couple of weeks,taking them apart

and cleaning the impellers,you would be better getting a larger

pool ,use it as a reservoir ,you could use one bigger pump and

some valves and supply water to each, with water returning to

the pool, the bigger pumps have earth wire,smaller ones don't.

regards worgeordie

[carlyai]

I don't think what you are looking to achieve would be possible,

you would need to buy 5 small pumps,they are not expensive,

BUT the cable on them is usually quite short,so joining them

together and at the same time making the connection waterproof

would not be easy.

Then you would be giving yourself a lot of work,as the pumps

would require cleaning every couple of weeks,taking them apart

and cleaning the impellers,you would be better getting a larger

pool ,use it as a reservoir ,you could use one bigger pump and

some valves and supply water to each, with water returning to

the pool, the bigger pumps have earth wire,smaller ones don't.

regards worgeordie

[lopburi3]

Perhaps use a 12v DC boat type pump - would provide plenty of power and probably safer.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X12v+pump.TRS0&_nkw=12v+pump&_sacat=0

[carlyai]

Yes, thanks, and i see what you mean. Maybe too hard basket at the moment, but this basket is overflowing ?.

Maybe just connect up one of the girls with no timer at the moment.

Increase the ambience around beer drinking time. ?

[carlyai]

Perhaps use a 12v DC boat type pump - would provide plenty of power and probably safer.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X12v+pump.TRS0&_nkw=12v+pump&_sacat=0

[carlyai]

Hey thanks Lop3. Great suggestion.

Got any guesstamates of the size pump I would require?

[carlyai]

You know I saw this great show on tv the other nite, where they home renovated the back yard.

So they stuffed around with the pool and surrounds. The back yard previously had 'plaa koi' don't know their falang name, probably Koi fish, in fish pond, and a seperate swimming pool.

So what they did (which really appeals to me for the future), is they had these big rocks where the fish and pool were seperate, but looked like one waterway, and they had the vertical stacked aquaponic growth beds around the pool and used the fish as part of the aquaponic cycle. Can you picture it?

You don't need these pretty fish but you could have edible fish, so gaving a BBQ round the pool, just scoop out a fish, grill on the BBQ and break off a few lettuce leaves and tomatoes from the vertical growth beds. Probably have a swim too.

Now there's a plan. ?

[manfredtillmann]

to be able to use just one pump you have to position all your little girls on top of one catchment basin. that could be something like a plastic lined hole in the ground with a sturdy metal mesh over to support your current 'display' and pebbles around to hide everything. the more you eliminate splashing the less often you have to top up the water in the hole.

use one small 12v submersible pump and connect all your girls to a common feeder pipe. if you drill holes into the girl's individual basins at the required height you will control the water level in these individual basins.

electrical supply from a small solar panel will do away with the timer and using 12v is safe and easy do-it-yourself.

Edited July 23, 2016 by manfredtillmann

[carlyai]

to be able to use just one pump you have to position all your little girls on top of one catchment basin. that could be something like a plastic lined hole in the ground with a sturdy metal mesh over to support your current 'display' and pebbles around to hide everything. the more you eliminate splashing the less often you have to top up the water in the hole.

use one small 12v submersible pump and connect all your girls to a common feeder pipe. if you drill holes into the girl's individual basins at the required height you will control the water level in these individual basins.

electrical supply from a small solar panel will do away with the timer and using 12v is safe and easy do-it-yourself.

[carlyai]

Great. Thank you very much. I think I could do that.

Just thinking .... i would probably want it on after 6 pm, so the solar may need mods.

But great suggestion.

[gandalf12]

Get a small submersible pump tat sits in the water. Will work fine