Obama: Trump ‘woefully unfit’ to be President

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

They had to crowd-source the funding for these recounts.  If the recount shows the election results are in question, then other states can conduct a recount.

I believe the date for recounts has either passed or about to pass. Obviously it would be impossible to recount every state by December 13 if that is what you are implying.

[heybruce]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

They had to crowd-source the funding for these recounts.  If the recount shows the election results are in question, then other states can conduct a recount.

 

6 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

Precisely. They have limited resources and have chosen to deploy those resources in the States where they believe they have the greatest chance of success

True, but there is also a practical consideration:  Why fund a recount that would confirm the election?

 

If someone wants to confirm the Trump victory (Donald Trump perhaps?) he can fund a recount in those states where Trump claims, without evidence, that there were millions of illegal votes cast.

[SaintLouisBlues]

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

True, but there is also a practical consideration:  Why fund a recount that would confirm the election?

 

If someone wants to confirm the Trump victory (Donald Trump perhaps?) he can fund a recount in those states where Trump claims, without evidence, that there were millions of illegal votes cast.

Perhaps you can present your arguments to those who have made their decision and see if you can change their mind?

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

Precisely. They have limited resources and have chosen to deploy those resources in the States where they believe they have the greatest chance of success

 

How can they have a greater chance of success when they have admitted they have zero to assume there is a problem in the states they have picked? It is obvious to any non partisan that it is simply the states that had the closest results for Trump that were selected. So, were they are lying when they said they weren't doing it to defeat Trump?

 

And Stein insisted the recount was not meant to block Trump, the surprise election winner, from becoming president.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/25/jill-stein-election-recount-clinton-trump-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin

[heybruce]

14 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

Precisely. They have limited resources and have chosen to deploy those resources in the States where they believe they have the greatest chance of success

 

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

True, but there is also a practical consideration:  Why fund a recount that would confirm the election?

 

If someone wants to confirm the Trump victory (Donald Trump perhaps?) he can fund a recount in those states where Trump claims, without evidence, that there were millions of illegal votes cast.

 

3 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

Perhaps you can present your arguments to those who have made their decision and see if you can change their mind?

You lost me with that comment.  Are we still discussing vote recounts and where to deploy limited resources for such recounts?  If so, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, I just explained why the Green party funded the recount in the logical states.

[SaintLouisBlues]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

So, were they are lying when they said they weren't doing it to defeat Trump?

And the answer is ... ?

[heybruce]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

How can they have a greater chance of success when they have admitted they have zero to assume there is a problem in the states they have picked? It is obvious to any non partisan that it is simply the states that had the closest results for Trump that were selected. So, were they are lying when they said they weren't doing it to defeat Trump?

 

And Stein insisted the recount was not meant to block Trump, the surprise election winner, from becoming president.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/25/jill-stein-election-recount-clinton-trump-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin

 

Did you read the first paragraph of your reference?

 

" Jill Stein has requested a full recount of the presidential election in Wisconsin, alleging that foreign hackers could have skewed the result by obtaining the state’s voter database and then filing bogus absentee ballots."

 

If foreign hackers have learned how to skew elections, I think it's a very good idea to learn about it and take precautions before the next election.

 

[Prbkk]

He's barking mad...if the comments attributed to him about Pakistan are correct. NOT just ill-informed , unprepared and eccentric, but absolutely barking mad. 

[KhonKaenKowboy]

21 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

He's barking mad...if the comments attributed to him about Pakistan are correct. NOT just ill-informed , unprepared and eccentric, but absolutely barking mad. 

At leasst he doesn't call it "Pockistan.".. BTW, Trump just saved 1500 good paying jobs at Carrier from moving to Mexico...Somehow that didn't get cut and pasted here like the gossip does.

Edited December 1, 2016 by KhonKaenKowboy

[Prbkk]

34 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

At leasst he doesn't call it "Pockistan.".. BTW, Trump just saved 1500 good paying jobs at Carrier from moving to Mexico...Somehow that didn't get cut and pasted here like the gossip does.

 

Well, yes...good luck to him with the Carrier deal. He will need some luck because if he continues with the worst of the crazy trade rhetoric, the prospect of the rest of the world imposing tariffs on US manufacturing and services becomes more likely. Saying it for a domestic audience during an election campaign is one thing, trying to implement it is another thing altogether ( with much opposition from within the GOP).

[Andaman Al]

9 hours ago, Silurian said:

How terrible is the current economy...um, not so bad really.

 

Opinion: Here’s the verdict on that ‘terrible’ Obama economy

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-the-verdict-on-that-terrible-obama-economy-2016-11-30

 

 

 

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Hmmmm. I guess either Obama couldn't sell it or the people that voted for Trump didn't believe it.

 

I think the people that voted for Trump could neither read it or understand it.

 

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, heybruce said:

 

Did you read the first paragraph of your reference?

 

" Jill Stein has requested a full recount of the presidential election in Wisconsin, alleging that foreign hackers could have skewed the result by obtaining the state’s voter database and then filing bogus absentee ballots."

 

If foreign hackers have learned how to skew elections, I think it's a very good idea to learn about it and take precautions before the next election.

 

They have said themselves that there is NO evidence of hacking. This is a fishing trip for funds for the Greens.  Apparently a judge has refused a hand count, saying there is not enough evidence to justify one.

http://www.wisn.com/article/wisconsin-presidential-recount/8377062

 

[Silurian]

1 hour ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

At leasst he doesn't call it "Pockistan.".. BTW, Trump just saved 1500 good paying jobs at Carrier from moving to Mexico...Somehow that didn't get cut and pasted here like the gossip does.

 

Yep, big win for Don the Prez...or is it? Not all the jobs are staying. Plus it pretty much amounts to the Government paying companies to stay in the US via tax incentives. It sets a precedence that more companies will demand tax breaks in order to stay in the US. What's next? Subsidies? 

 

"Some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind."

 

How Donald Trump Sealed the Deal to Keep Carrier Jobs in the U.S

http://fortune.com/2016/11/30/donald-trump-carrier-deal-jobs/

 

[thaibeachlovers]

44 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

 

Well, yes...good luck to him with the Carrier deal. He will need some luck because if he continues with the worst of the crazy trade rhetoric, the prospect of the rest of the world imposing tariffs on US manufacturing and services becomes more likely. Saying it for a domestic audience during an election campaign is one thing, trying to implement it is another thing altogether ( with much opposition from within the GOP).

He's not even president and has saved jobs. However I believe the sour grapes club will do everything they can to disparage it. Nothing shall be allowed to obscure the wailing and crying, even the good news for a thousand workers.

[Andaman Al]

1 hour ago, Prbkk said:

He's barking mad...if the comments attributed to him about Pakistan are correct. NOT just ill-informed , unprepared and eccentric, but absolutely barking mad. 

You mean these comments:

 

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Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif called President-elect USA Donald Trump and felicitated him on his victory. President Trump said Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif you have a very good reputation. You are a terrific guy.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/30/pakistans-surprisingly-candid-readout-of-trumps-phone-call-with-prime-minister/?utm_term=.2afbd70680ae

 

I can't understand why, but it doesn't seem to be going down to well in The Times of India.

 

Edited December 1, 2016 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Silurian said:

 

Yep, big win for Don the Prez...or is it? Not all the jobs are staying. Plus it pretty much amounts to the Government paying companies to stay in the US via tax incentives. It sets a precedence that more companies will demand tax breaks in order to stay in the US. What's next? Subsidies? 

 

"Some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind."

 

How Donald Trump Sealed the Deal to Keep Carrier Jobs in the U.S

http://fortune.com/2016/11/30/donald-trump-carrier-deal-jobs/

 

Like I said in # 2354.

Edited December 1, 2016 by thaibeachlovers

[Andaman Al]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They have said themselves that there is NO evidence of hacking. This is a fishing trip for funds for the Greens.

Apparently a judge has refused a hand count, saying there is not enough evidence to justify one.

http://www.wisn.com/article/wisconsin-presidential-recount/8377062

 

My bold.

 

You provide the link and then continue to print an absolute downright lie. the judge refused NOTHING! What the Judge actually said was (from YOUR link)

 

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A judge ruled late Tuesday that a recount of Wisconsin's presidential ballots does not have to be performed by hand, leaving clerks in the state's 72 counties to determine the best method used.

 

Meaning if the clerks want to count by hand then its up to them. Sheesh! Trumps propensity for lying about everything is now endemic amongst his supporters, and you are so accepting of it you probably don't even realise what you wrote. It's just OK to lie with you lot.

Edited December 1, 2016 by metisdead
Bold font removed. Please do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes.

[Andaman Al]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He's not even president and has saved jobs. However I believe the sour grapes club will do everything they can to disparage it. Nothing shall be allowed to obscure the wailing and crying, even the good news for a thousand workers.

Well 1300 of the Jobs are still going to Mexico and Trump unlike Obama has not created anything. The jobs that are remaining  are going to cost YOU the tax payer money in order to fund them staying. You don't like handing out social security cheques to the non workers yet here you are handing out social security cheques to the owners of big business for what might amount to billions. That seems sensible economics. All Trump did was threaten the company owner with financial sanctions and then promise other peoples money if some of the workers stay. You pay and Trump claims the credit. Brilliant - Not!

[KhonKaenKowboy]

Obama took executive action to prevent an entire company (Pfizer) from moving to Ireland.  What do you call that?  He couldn't save Burger King...now a Canadian Company.  What the left don't seem to get is that lowering taxes often increases revenue and jobs.  Ask quite a few Californians how they like their new homes in Texas.  Nothing like finishing that 1040 Long, and being done with it, except for FBAR, of course, another Obama monster.  Google stashed 250 billion in foreign accounts in 2015 alone...but the pigs are worried about joe retired plumber with 10,000 in Bangkok Bank.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Andaman Al said:

My bold.

 

You provide the link and then continue to print an absolute downright lie. the judge refused NOTHING! What the Judge actually said was (from YOUR link)

 

 

Meaning if the clerks want to count by hand then its up to them. Sheesh! Trumps propensity for lying about everything is now endemic amongst his supporters, and you are so accepting of it you probably don't even realise what you wrote. It's just OK to lie with you lot.

Perhaps you need some lessons in comprehension. APPARENTLY does not mean he DID. Chill man, it's just a forum!

Have a   and calm down before you stroke out.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Andaman Al said:

Well 1300 of the Jobs are still going to Mexico and Trump unlike Obama has not created anything. The jobs that are remaining  are going to cost YOU the tax payer money in order to fund them staying. You don't like handing out social security cheques to the non workers yet here you are handing out social security cheques to the owners of big business for what might amount to billions. That seems sensible economics. All Trump did was threaten the company owner with financial sanctions and then promise other peoples money if some of the workers stay. You pay and Trump claims the credit. Brilliant - Not!

Like I said before, However I believe the sour grapes club will do everything they can to disparage it. Nothing shall be allowed to obscure the wailing and crying, even the good news for a thousand workers.

[Silurian]

12 minutes ago, KhonKaenKowboy said:

BTW...Goldman says Trump Presidency will benefit stocks in almost every sector.

 

Well, it seems to be a good thing for Goldman Sachs stock at least. It is up around 22% since Nov 8th and at a 52 week high. But I am sure it has nothing to do with all those ex-Goldman Sachs people that will be in the new administration. Drain the swamp and put in some Millionaires and Billionaires.

 

 

[KhonKaenKowboy]

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

 

Well, it seems to be a good thing for Goldman Sachs stock at least. It is up around 22% since Nov 8th and at a 52 week high. But I am sure it has nothing to do with all those ex-Goldman Sachs people that will be in the new administration. Drain the swamp and put in some Millionaires and Billionaires.

 

 

and you had the same opportunity to buy shares in Goldman as anyone else.  Too busy with the Michael Moore reruns?

[iReason]

Trump's education pick says reform can 'advance God's Kingdom'

 

"The billionaire philanthropist whom Donald Trump has tapped to lead the Education Department once compared her work in education reform to a biblical battleground where she wants to "advance God's Kingdom." 

 

"Trump’s pick, Betsy DeVos, a national leader of the school choice movement, has pursued that work in large part by spending millions to promote the use of taxpayer dollars on private and religious schools."

 

“It's very alarming,” said Rob Boston, a spokesman for Americans United for Separation of Church and State.

Boston’s group has referred to DeVos as a “four-star general in a deceptive behind-the-scenes war on

public schools and church-state separation.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/betsy-devos-education-trump-religion-232150

 

The Clown Train continues with a recruit who believes in an invisible man in the sky.

Who wants to indoctrinate young impressionable minds peddling her "god" at the taxpayer's expense.

 

Allah akbar.

Edited December 3, 2016 by iReason

[Andaman Al]

On 12/1/2016 at 7:33 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

He's not even president and has saved jobs. However I believe the sour grapes club will do everything they can to disparage it. Nothing shall be allowed to obscure the wailing and crying, even the good news for a thousand workers.

Meanwhile this month the Obama administration has CREATED 178 000 jobs in November and unemployment is now at 4.6%. You think Trump is going to beat that?? Not a chance! Keep your heads in the bucket and imagine Trump utopia.

 

http://www.bls.gov

[iReason]

Philippines' Rodrigo Duterte gets Donald Trump invite

 

"Trump's brief chat with the Duterte comes during a period of uncertainty about one of America's most important Asian alliances, marked by Duterte's hostility towards the US and his repeated threats to sever decades-old defence ties."

 

"In an interview with Reuters news agency during the election campaign, Trump said Duterte's comments showed

"a lack of respect for our country".

 

"Some experts, however, say Duterte's appointment of special envoys to Washington suggest that despite his hostility, he intends to keep good ties. Among those envoys is Jose Antonio, a multi-millionaire real-estate tycoon who bought the rights to name a new office tower in Manila "Trump Towers".  

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/philippines-roger-duterte-donald-trump-invitation-161202192230991.html

 

The Huckster certainly is shoring up his business interests...

What do we have so far?

India, Russia, Taiwan and the Philippines.

For starters.  

Edited December 3, 2016 by iReason

[iReason]

The "Two Trumps" surface in president-elect's transition

 

"Despite s tell-it-like-it- his reputation, Trump is fueled by a deep need to be liked, according to long-time associates."  

 

"He often modulates his tone to his setting and frequently tries to curry favor with his audience by telling them what he thinks they want to hear."

 

"He often speaks in vague generalities, his policy plans short on details, and that allows supporters to read in what they wish."

http://www.nbc12.com/story/33856635/the-two-trumps-surface-in-president-elects-transition

 

In a nutshell.

And forget it. The huckster lost by 2.5+ million votes.

His little "victory tour" is embarrassing and pointless.

 

Trump: When audiences get bored I use 'the wall'

 

"You know, if it gets a little boring, if I see people sort of, maybe thinking about leaving, I can sort of tell the audience,

I just say, "We will build the wall!" and they go nuts."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/01/30/trump-when-audiences-get-bored-use-wall/79573388/

 

The Lemmings.

Played like a fiddle.

Edited December 3, 2016 by iReason

[iReason]

What a sad, pathetic excuse for a president.

Truly an embarrassing childlike fool.

 

SNL Makes Fun Of Trump’s Tweeting – So He Tweets Angry Message During Show!

 

"Does Presidedent-Elect have anything better to do than to watch Saturday Night Live every week?"

"Apparently, the busiest man on the planet (with the exception of President Obama) has nothing better to do than tweet angry messages."

"What’s funny about this latest tweet – is that SNL was making fun of all his tweets. So what does Trump do? He tweets during the middle of the show to show his displeasure."

http://news.groopspeak.com/snl-makes-fun-of-trumps-tweeting-so-he-tweets-angry-message-during-show-video/

 

Here’s what the unhinged buffoon had to say:

Edited December 5, 2016 by iReason

[Andaman Al]

19 minutes ago, iReason said:

What a sad, pathetic excuse for a president.

Truly an embarrassing childlike fool.

 

SNL Makes Fun Of Trump’s Tweeting – So He Tweets Angry Message During Show!

 

"Does Presidedent-Elect have anything better to do than to watch Saturday Night Live every week?"

"Apparently, the busiest man on the planet (with the exception of President Obama) has nothing better to do than tweet angry messages."

"What’s funny about this latest tweet – is that SNL was making fun of all his tweets. So what does Trump do? He tweets during the middle of the show to show his displeasure."

http://news.groopspeak.com/snl-makes-fun-of-trumps-tweeting-so-he-tweets-angry-message-during-show-video/

 

Here’s what the unhinged buffoon had to say:

How funny does it get? Trump is a narcissist and is going to explode soon LoL. He will order the NSA to do a hit on Baldwin.I bet he did not sleep all last night from stomping around feeling angry. The man REALLY is woefully unfit for office. He simply does not have the maturity or backbone. 

[Rimmer]

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