Appeal to 3BB users

[wpcoe]

5 hours ago, Berty100 said:

Now other than that my 3BB speed crap is, something happened to my BTV connection.

 

I have a 10/1Mb connection with BTV.

 

Now look at my speedtest to Bangkok and Singapore.I get a higher speed to Singapore as to Bangkok. To London I also get easily 8Mb with testmy.net, but also over 11Mb with ookla.

 

Someone can explain?

 

 

 

Can't explain the higher speed to Singapore vs Bangkok, but...

 

There is another long thread here somewhere about using a VPN via Singapore to help get faster speeds to/from overseas locations.  I investigated and ended up subscribing to PureVPN and using their Singapore location.  My downloads to/from the USA went from about 10Mbps without VPN to 20-25Mbps using VPN on my 30/3 True DOCSIS (cable) internet plan. YMMV, but it makes me wonder how it might work for you.

Edited August 16, 2016 by wpcoe

[Berty100]

6 hours ago, wpcoe said:

 

Can't explain the higher speed to Singapore vs Bangkok, but...

 

There is another long thread here somewhere about using a VPN via Singapore to help get faster speeds to/from overseas locations.  I investigated and ended up subscribing to PureVPN and using their Singapore location.  My downloads to/from the USA went from about 10Mbps without VPN to 20-25Mbps using VPN on my 30/3 True DOCSIS (cable) internet plan. YMMV, but it makes me wonder how it might work for you.

 

I'm sure with a Singapore VPN I will be able to increase my speed to overseas servers, but it of course comes at an extra cost per month again, and if you don't need the internet for your work every Baht counts.

 

It is strange that my BTV connection has improved so much since yesterday, where Singapore gives a speed 50% higher as what I pay for the connection to Bangkok.

 

Last night at 10pm a new mystery unfolded. My 3BB connection improved significantly.

 

Below are the results from speed test to London server, using Ookla and Testmy.net, looks as if someone is fiddling with the Ookla results.

 

 

 

 

[KittenKong]

26 minutes ago, Berty100 said:

Below are the results from speed test to London server, using Ookla and Testmy.net, looks as if someone is fiddling with the Ookla results.

 

Nothing new there. This should explain what is happening. http://www.myce.com/review/internet-providers-caught-inflating-speed-test-results-78458/

 

When doing so-called speed tests you need to pay particular attention to multithreading and cacheing if you want to get a result that reflects what you will experience when streaming video or using VOIP, for example.

[NanLaew]

On 8/17/2016 at 8:03 AM, Berty100 said:

 

I'm sure with a Singapore VPN I will be able to increase my speed to overseas servers, but it of course comes at an extra cost per month again, and if you don't need the internet for your work every Baht counts.

 

It is strange that my BTV connection has improved so much since yesterday, where Singapore gives a speed 50% higher as what I pay for the connection to Bangkok.

 

Last night at 10pm a new mystery unfolded. My 3BB connection improved significantly.

 

Below are the results from speed test to London server, using Ookla and Testmy.net, looks as if someone is fiddling with the Ookla results.

 

 

 

 

 

I recall with my earliest cable internet experiences in the US that it was common to see a steady improvement in speeds up to a point when they maxed out. If the line was unused and/or disconnected for any length of time (out of country/storm damage), the connection would be slower at the time of initial re-connection but again would increase back to normal over the next 3-5 days. A Warner Cable tech explained that the lines were 're-training' and this was a normal aspect of the technology (pre fiber optic) at that time. My dear dad also had a similar explanation from a BT tech when his ADSL connection was sluggish after an outage back in the UK.

[Berty100]

15 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I recall with my earliest cable internet experiences in the US that it was common to see a steady improvement in speeds up to a point when they maxed out. If the line was unused and/or disconnected for any length of time (out of country/storm damage), the connection would be slower at the time of initial re-connection but again would increase back to normal over the next 3-5 days. A Warner Cable tech explained that the lines were 're-training' and this was a normal aspect of the technology (pre fiber optic) at that time. My dear dad also had a similar explanation from a BT tech when his ADSL connection was sluggish after an outage back in the UK.

 

My BTVconnection has never been unused, so that could not have been the cause, I say could because after the next day the speeds went back to more normal.

 

Regarding my 3BB connection. In the evening the speeds improve to about the same speed as BTV, so there must be a heavy load during the day in my direct artea.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Berty100 said:

 

My BTVconnection has never been unused, so that could not have been the cause, I say could because after the next day the speeds went back to more normal.

 

Regarding my 3BB connection. In the evening the speeds improve to about the same speed as BTV, so there must be a heavy load during the day in my direct artea.

 

Sorry, I was commenting on your new 3BB getting mysteriously faster.

 

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... Last night at 10pm a new mystery unfolded. My 3BB connection improved significantly. ...

 

But if both are generally trending together, your daytime loading assumption is probably as good an explanation as your going to get.

[Berty100]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Sorry, I was commenting on your new 3BB getting mysteriously faster.

 

 

But if both are generally trending together, your daytime loading assumption is probably as good an explanation as your going to get.

 

My BTV connection shows approximate the same speed to overseas servers during the day as at night.

 

3BBhas during the day about half the speed from at night.

 

To Bangkok server both deliver maximum speed at all time

[Berty100]

Maybe some good news in the make. Tomorrow a technician from 3BB will visit to look at the speed issues, but the office has confirmed already that ADSL is also available in my location.

[KittenKong]

29 minutes ago, Berty100 said:

......the office has confirmed already that ADSL is also available in my location.

 

VDSL is an extension of ADSL so if the former is available then the latter should be also, assuming that the ISP commercialises it at all.

 

I note that 3BB do not advertise their ADSL products any more and I see no mention of them on their website, yet they have not yet made any attempt to get me to cancel my 3BB ADSL in favour of their cheaper VDSL package.

[Berty100]

9 minutes ago, KittenKong said:

 

VDSL is an extension of ADSL so if the former is available then the latter should be also, assuming that the ISP commercialises it at all.

 

I note that 3BB do not advertise their ADSL products any more and I see no mention of them on their website, yet they have not yet made any attempt to get me to cancel my 3BB ADSL in favour of their cheaper VDSL package.

 

Like you said that the ADSL offers higher overseas speeds, The VDSL could just be a sales trick to attract more customers with higher speeds. Over ADSL their highest speed offered in my area is 18.8Mb, while over VDSL they offer 50Mb.

Of course more customers means they have to reduce their overseas bandwidth per customer, because that is the one that is used for very connection and costs them money.

The Thai bandwidth they will never exceed because almost no websites are hosted in Thailand.

 

When I asked in the shop about ADSL she said it was available, but I had to wait on the recommendation of the technician, so I guess they offer it only to selected new customers anymore,

[Berty100]

Something is definitely not right with speed tests.

 

On 3BB I get at this time 1.2Mb to London and 2.3Mb to Singapore on Testmy.net with a 25Mb download package. On Ookla, which uses flash and probably multi channel, I get almost double that speed.I have done multiple tests on both test sites, so can say the result is what it is.

 

I start up Kodi and test a several free addons with live sports streams in HD, Mio Stadium, Sky sports and BT sports.

 

They all stream without buffering.

 

We all know that none of those Kodi servers are in Thailand, but most are in UK or US, so you gonna tell me that with a supposed 1.2Mb connection to those countries I can stream Live content in HD?

 

Now way Jose.

[KittenKong]

5 minutes ago, Berty100 said:

Something is definitely not right with speed tests.

 

You could always follow the link I posted yesterday morning and learn something rather than just engage in uninformed speculation.

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/936925-appeal-to-3bb-users/?page=2#comment-11056963

 

It explains exactly why you are getting strange readings, and why they are generally not relevant to real-life use anyway.

[tropo]

6 hours ago, Berty100 said:

 

Like you said that the ADSL offers higher overseas speeds, The VDSL could just be a sales trick to attract more customers with higher speeds. Over ADSL their highest speed offered in my area is 18.8Mb, while over VDSL they offer 50Mb.

Of course more customers means they have to reduce their overseas bandwidth per customer, because that is the one that is used for very connection and costs them money.

The Thai bandwidth they will never exceed because almost no websites are hosted in Thailand.

 

When I asked in the shop about ADSL she said it was available, but I had to wait on the recommendation of the technician, so I guess they offer it only to selected new customers anymore,

How did you come to the conclusion almost no websites are hosted in Thailand? Perhaps you meant hardly any sites that foreigners would be interested in, but there are a large number of sites hosted here... mostly using only the Thai language, of course.

Edited August 18, 2016 by tropo

[Berty100]

6 hours ago, KittenKong said:

 

You could always follow the link I posted yesterday morning and learn something rather than just engage in uninformed speculation.

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/936925-appeal-to-3bb-users/?page=2#comment-11056963

 

It explains exactly why you are getting strange readings, and why they are generally not relevant to real-life use anyway.

 

Yeah it's definitely me the uninformed, but better uninformed than illiterate, unless showing a 1 Mb download speed is considered inflating the result?

You may, or may not, have noticed that the speed test result came from the in your link praised test site TESTMY.NET website.

 

And lastly, how do you explain being able to stream LIVE HD content from an overseas server, if you are only getting 1Mbps download from overseas servers?

Edited August 18, 2016 by Berty100

[Berty100]

4 hours ago, tropo said:

How did you come to the conclusion almost no websites are hosted in Thailand? Perhaps you meant hardly any sites that foreigners would be interested in, but there are a large number of sites hosted here... mostly using only the Thai language, of course.

 

 

Of course there are plenty of websites hosted in Thailand, but below are bandwidth figures for Thailand.

 

As you can see in 2014 the domestic bandwidth was almost double that of the international one, while in 2009, the3 domestic bandwidth was still 6 times as high as the international bandwidth. So guess where the websites are located that the Thai people increasingly visit.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Thailand

 

As of November 2009, Thailand had a total international Internet bandwidth of 106,787 Mbit/s. Thailand domestic Internet bandwidth was significantly higher at 607,526 Mbit/s.^[6]

 

Month/Year	International Bandwidth (Gbit/s)	Domestic Bandwidth (Gbit/s)
08/2014	975	1,765