Thai police arrest two men after deadly bomb blasts

[simon43]

The auspicious date of these bombings convinces me that these bombs have nothing to do with Redshirt supporters.

 

And for exactly the same reason, I am convinced that the southern separatists are responsible for these bombs.

 

You need to check your Thai history for information that cannot be mentioned here.

[baboon]

12 minutes ago, simon43 said:

The auspicious date of these bombings convinces me that these bombs have nothing to do with Redshirt supporters.

 

And for exactly the same reason, I am convinced that the southern separatists are responsible for these bombs.

 

You need to check your Thai history for information that cannot be mentioned here.

'I don't care if the separatists did do it. It was still Thaksin even if it wasn't...'

[Johnniey]

5 hours ago, sujoop said:

- Neither insurgents in the South nor any group made claims on these attacks
(similarly and oddly, nor did the Uighurs group claim Erawan attack)
- Eerily similar to NY Eve 2006 BKK bombings after Thaksin ouster:
All Bangkok bombs of the same type
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/01/09/politics/politics_30023641.php
- Referendum did not go his way
- Directly after confiscating 46 billion of Thaksin's ill gotten gains in 2010 things really heated up.
- Sis now facing imminent confiscation over rice scheme scam:
Yingluck hit with Bt286 billion damage bill over rice scheme
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-hit-with-Bt286-billion-damage-bill-over-r-30291926.html

 

More to follow?

I think we're all know the reasons and who is being it but we can't speak about it.

[teacherpaul]

5 hours ago, Sharp said:

Complete nonsense this has anything to do with them!! 

Agreed. International terrorist groups (IRA, ISIS etc) always admit it was them historically. The cowardly nature of Thai culture based on never admitting would suggest these are home grown terrorists.

[candide]

Last year a bomb exploded in a shopping center in Koh Samui, and subsequently a warehouse burned in Surat Thani. The same TV members, accusing now the red shirts, were trumpeting about red shirts being culprits! It was then disclosed that the warehouse belonged to Suthep, the police said it was about a business conflict and then radio silence.

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, Bannoi said:

It is possible it's connected to the Muslim insurgency/terrorism in the south after all despite around 5000 deaths untold injury's damage and mayhem in the last 15 years alone they don't appear to be getting anywhere, hardly anyone in the outside world has even heard about it.

 

If and that's a big if they have decided to take their fight to the Thai government outside of their own provinces what better target could there be that the tourist industry it would hurt the Thai economy and at the same time get them international publicity.

 

Personally I don't think we will ever know the real truth.

 

 

These supposed arrests are not being reported in the Thai media but they're all over the international media.

 

About all that's been said in Thai is that they're looking for (and perhaps) talking to people who look like those in the CCTV images from Hua Hin.

[AGareth2]

seems that they have not arrested anyone

[ianf]

3 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

You are repeating the mistake you made when you unequivocally blamed the red shirts for the Erawan Shrine bombing on the 17th August last year.

 

Then you seem to have shifted and started blaming the US, CIA, etc. as being part of the grand plan to reinstate the Shin clan. 

 

Did you see Elvis in Tops supermarket the other day as well?

 

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/profile/24851-ianf/content/?type=forums_topic_post&page=12

You appear to understand very little bout Thai politics and it's position relating to US interests in SE Asia as a whole. Neither do you contradict Amnesty International's evidence of 18 serious cases of human rights abuses perpetrated by Shinawatra. Sometimes, young man, you have to look beyond headlines, or your own prejudice, in order to understand the nature of world politics. Yes, I do believe that the Erawan Shrine bombing had nothing whatsoever to do with refugees and so on as claimed. But your extreme rudeness in terms of relating this to Elvis fantasies indicates that there is no possibility of having any serious discussion with you. Perhaps better for you to will Guinness and indulge in Finger Pie.

[Saraburi121]

Something I can not understand is the killing of innocent people to further your agenda.  A vendor that was just trying to make a living was killed?  A sane mind just can't make sense of this bombing.   How much anger or hate does it take to put a bomb in a place where people are having fun and trying to make a living?

[Khon Kaen Dave]

I dont know if this is all true.These two suspects could be 'faces for the frame' They have to act quickly and these arrests are what the people and tourists want to hear,to make them feel safer.They have been  picked up PDQ.I really think that the RTB are at a loss,i think they dont know who they are looking for,or were to start looking.I dont know if they really have a Bomb Squad as such.They have the opportunity to ask for international help,such as the USA and GB,because we are quite used to bombings and the aftermath of them,Of course they will not do it because that would cause a massive loss of face.That's how they see it,not a strengthening of counties relations.Also,when tackling bomb cells they usually keep quiet about initial arrests and wait until they have enough information to sweep down on the whole group.If these two were involved,then the remainder of the cell,will be long gone.It is fool hardy to announce arrests at such an early stage when they can get 'colonel in chief,Attawataporn,or whoever,to lead a clever sting operation and get them all,and the glory,and another photo for the family wall.

I think to appease the people,they have arrested these two.It will also give the nation a false sense of security in the belief that the police are on top of the situation.We will see just how much these two suspects actually know,if its all quiet then they know nothing.If they are able to give up their confederates,then you can bet that the information has been beaten out of them.

[Slip]

The RTP have released information that they have not arrested anyone- only questioned witnesses.

Edited August 13, 2016 by Slip
forgot a word.

[Holy Cinema]

14 minutes ago, Saraburi121 said:

Something I can not understand is the killing of innocent people to further your agenda.  A vendor that was just trying to make a living was killed?  A sane mind just can't make sense of this bombing.   How much anger or hate does it take to put a bomb in a place where people are having fun and trying to make a living?

There's something else you don't understand, and that's the concept of terrorism, and the agenda driven ideology that goes with it, collateral damage is of no concern to any one with the intent to commit such acts of.

Sane minds do and will make sense, that's the job of Intelligence Analysts, Forensics, Anti Terrorism, Counter terrorism SME's and analysts.

How much anger and hate? none, it takes a belief in an ideology that makes you believe you're doing the right thing, there's also the well known fact that people are forced to place bombs against their will, but they know that by not doing it, their families will be killed, and so will they.

Then as cold and blunt as this may come over, people get killed for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and are unwitting victims of such acts, just like the victims of a car accident, where another vehicle was to blame. 

[ukrules]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

The RTP have released information that they not arrested anyone- only questioned witnesses.

 

That sounds more like it, it's certainly not what the international headlines are saying.

 

So did the BBC (and many others) lie / get it wrong with no fact checking or were they fed false information for some reason.

 

[Bannoi]

28 minutes ago, Saraburi121 said:

Something I can not understand is the killing of innocent people to further your agenda.  A vendor that was just trying to make a living was killed?  A sane mind just can't make sense of this bombing.   How much anger or hate does it take to put a bomb in a place where people are having fun and trying to make a living?

 

To any non radicalised person a terrorist would appear to be insane however they are far from it what they are doing is adhering to tried and tested methods of political violence as abhorrent as that may appear to us a terrorist typically feels justified in their actions whatever the cost in order to achieve their goal.

Edited August 13, 2016 by Bannoi

[farcanell]

24 minutes ago, Saraburi121 said:

Something I can not understand is the killing of innocent people to further your agenda.  A vendor that was just trying to make a living was killed?  A sane mind just can't make sense of this bombing.   How much anger or hate does it take to put a bomb in a place where people are having fun and trying to make a living?

 

Perhaps you should think yourself lucky that you don't think, or view life, like a terrorist.

[farcanell]

6 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

 

To any non radicalised person a terrorist would appear to be insane however they are far from it what they are doing is adhering to tried and tested methods of political violence as abhorrent as that may appear to us a terrorist typically feels justified in their actions whatever the cost in order to achieve their goal.

 

Ah well... That just burst saraburi's bubble.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

The RTB originally stated that the bombings were not terrorist related! Well,they would do.It would be horrendous for all us tourists and ex pats to believe that ISIS is here and this is only the beginning.They will deny it until it is proven beyond doubt. To concede the fact would stop tourists in their tracks and rethink their holiday destinations.I do not mean the sex pats that come here.They will come anyway,even if it does mean going out with a bang.If it  is ISIS related,they will not let the Thai authorities cover it up for long,because they will want the world to know it was them.If there are lies and denial,there will be a phone call to an international newspaper,with the password,claiming the glory of it.Lets wait and see.

[ukrules]

Finally some truth emerges, nobody has been arrested at all.

[Saraburi121]

Holy Cinema and Bannoi thanks for your insight. Excellent post.

[JustNo]

8 hours ago, MaxLee said:

So who are the first unlucky scapegoats?

My thoughts exactly this morning mulling this over 

[rockingrobin]

6 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Finally some truth emerges, nobody has been arrested at all.

The BP is reporting a 67 yr old political activist from Trang has been detained

[Goanna]

5 hours ago, DM07 said:

It is not that hard to imagine...unless, you want to tell me, you had no clue at all, how the referendum might go... 

Either way, yes or no, the referendum result would be the same. Military still run the country. Haha. Yes, I knew the outcome. So your argument falls on the floor, to be mopped up later.

[Goanna]

5 hours ago, DM07 said:

 

Edited August 13, 2016 by Goanna
Triple post

[Goanna]

5 hours ago, DM07 said:

 

Edited August 13, 2016 by Goanna
Dp.

[tuanku]

8 hours ago, djjamie said:

not let violence be the solution to guide the country politically. 

As long as Thailand is ruled by the men with the most guns, violence will guide the country politically.

 

Aren't your Aussie rules team known as the "Bombers"?

[Eligius]

1 hour ago, Slip said:

The RTP have released information that they have not arrested anyone- only questioned witnesses.

Having lived many years in Thailand, I have found it to be a good rule of thumb to reverse the statements of the Thai police if you want the truth. Thus: 'no one has been arrested / detained' means in reality: 'someone has been arrested/ detained.'  Similarly: 'This is definitely not the work of Muslim separatists' = 'This probably is the work of Muslim separatists - and their manipulators'. You get the point!

Edited August 13, 2016 by Eligius

[farcanell]

12 minutes ago, tuanku said:

As long as Thailand is ruled by the men with the most guns, violence will guide the country politically.

 

Aren't your Aussie rules team known as the "Bombers"?

 

Yer... His team is... But they aren't very good.

 

Although the origins of their head coach continue to provide some hope for them.

[Winniedapu]

6 hours ago, ianf said:

The military took over to try and restore peace and stability to Thailand after a decade of Thaksin's dictatorial non-democratic rule, during which he committed 18 gross human eights violations and tried to pass laws outside of the agreement of the existing democratic institutions. The referendum was not a power grab as you say. Indeed, and yes, it was passed by 35% of the total electorate which has been characterised by the west and people here as a minority. However those same people used the word 'landslide' when only 35% of the electorate voted for Thaksin's party. They seem to want it both ways. There is no doubt in my own mind where these bombings have come from. The Thaksin years have been marked by their violent opposition and their twisting of the facts in order to make it seem that their opponents were causing the deaths over the years. Those of us who have no ideology but are simply interested in looking behind the spin are well aware of what is going on. Desperate days now for the reds. I wonder what lies ahead. I wouldn't mark the military's actions (as naive as they seem to be) as a 'horrific power grab'. Thais aren't stupid, they know what's going on and certainly the Thais that I know, family and friends, seem quite comfortable with the current situation.

 

 

Nice post. Tripe from start to finish, but a better class of tripe than most of the other junta trolls can aspire to.

 

I particularly liked the bit about Thais not being stupid and the bit about restoring peace and stability. 

 

Winnie

Edited August 13, 2016 by Winniedapu

[tuanku]

46 minutes ago, farcanell said:

 

Yer... His team is... But they aren't very good.

 

Although the origins of their head coach continue to provide some hope for them.

Scene in a Hua Hin beer bar

Enters large elderly Australian wearing "Bike for Dad" t-shirt and hat with corks;

"G'day, cobbers, my names Jamie and I support the Bombers"

Stunned silence.

[Winniedapu]

3 hours ago, ianf said:

You appear to understand very little bout Thai politics and it's position relating to US interests in SE Asia as a whole. Neither do you contradict Amnesty International's evidence of 18 serious cases of human rights abuses perpetrated by Shinawatra. Sometimes, young man, you have to look beyond headlines, or your own prejudice, in order to understand the nature of world politics. Yes, I do believe that the Erawan Shrine bombing had nothing whatsoever to do with refugees and so on as claimed. But your extreme rudeness in terms of relating this to Elvis fantasies indicates that there is no possibility of having any serious discussion with you. Perhaps better for you to will Guinness and indulge in Finger Pie.

 

And let that be a lesson to you.

 

Winnie