Thailand. Highest rate of antibiotic use in the world?

[Speedo1968]

4 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Yes, your decades of exposure to agricultural poisons could easily explain your condition. I am not a doctor but I have seen this type of response in farmers and blue-collar workers from industrial environments.

 

I do hope you carry an EPI pen...assuming you are first tested to make sure you have no reaction ;-(

 

No doubt you are now motivated to live a very chemical free life as much as possible.

 

No, I don't carry an EPi pen.   Never been offered one, though many years ago I did use an Imigran injector for severe migraine - worked a treat.     Now I don't have migraines, no idea why.     

 

Like yourself I have seen the effects of farming on humans ( e.g. farmers lung ) and of course the effect of industrial livestock farming on the animals.      I studied animal behaviour and, have always taught that recognition of how livestock behave was very important, when giving lectures in the UK or elsewhere.

 

I have had multiple TIA's since 2012 and 3 mild strokes this year.   I self treat if I have an attack, including those where breathing is a problem.   I have been a vegetarian ( no meat / fish / eggs ) since 1971 and a vegan ( nothing from animals ) for about 40 years.    I was a freelance farming consultant and taught compassion where livestock were involved.  My work was 24/7 which lead to burn outs, now I am retired ( and bored out of my mind ! ).  I walk 5 - 10 km every day, luckily I still can and, walk at the speed my legs want to go.  I take no daily "normal" medication other than 1 Aspent.     I got off all "normal" medications over a 2 year period.          I use natural replacements - no not the expensive stuff in jars - for any medication I should take.    I have discussed fully with my specialist at the hospital in KK, including treatment following the mild strokes.  I carry a DNR form with me and there is one at the hospital in KK.     I am very lucky in that I have a doctor that I can talk with and who was with me in 2012 when I first reverted to natural therapy as a last resort.     

 

If people were only aware more of their own bodies ( please note I follow no faith nor do I preach any ) it would help.

[cumgranosalum]

On 11/19/2016 at 6:52 PM, Bonobojt said:

I can see why people become Monks these days, no sex with woman so no risk of getting sexual infections, good Buddhist reasons to go vegan or vegetarian so no consumption of antibiotics in meat. Healthy vegetarian diet means good immune system which means less chance of getting sick and needing to go to the doctor. No alcohol, no stress, nice life in the temple.

 

There are fat a lot of overweight Monks though, but I'm talking about the slim vegan ones.

 

you don't consume antibiotics in meat - if it is slaughtered according to the law.

[Speedo1968]

On 11/23/2016 at 11:16 AM, cumgranosalum said:

you don't consume antibiotics in meat - if it is slaughtered according to the law.

 

Having been in farming since 1961, most of it overseas, since 1990's coming to Asia Pacific and China, the last 16 years in Thailand.

The key word in your comment is 'if", however .......

It is not the slaughtering but the testing of the meat for antibiotic residues.

The testing is down to the government in slaughter plants, local markets and farms.

The meat for sale in your local market / night market - how much of that goes thru a factory where the testing should be done ?

A considerable amount of it is "backyard".

In my experience I have seen feeding systems for livestock which have been "cleaned !" showing negative antibiotics by one agency then shown to be positive by another agency.

I have seen growth hormones meant for cattle used in pigs.

 

Although I am vegan there is nothing wrong with having meat / fish as part of ones diet.    Alternatively we can say one does not need meat in their diet.   Unfortunately factory farming is here to stay, one can only try to educate the farmer to be compassionate, by being so the livestock can be more content, under less stress, healthier and therefore grow more quickly, be of better quality - the farmer has more animals for sale and saves on not just medication but many other costs as well.

 

Ethically, it is up to the individual.