Non-O Marriage Visa Extension after 1 Year - 400,000 or 40,000 per month?

[Cooperlicious]

Hello Thai Visa Peoples, 

 

I am currently on a Non-O based on marriage for 1 year and will need to renew my visa in December. Originally got my visa done in Bangkok and I showed 400,000THB in the bank to get the initial extension. I am now working and living in Chiang Mai and was wondering if...

 

1. Can I get my next extension in Chiang Mai not Bangkok? Considering I got my first extension in Bangkok do they make you keep going to the same Immigration office or can I just extend here in Chiang Mai? 

 

2. Can i change to showing 40,000THB++ salary every month instead of the 400,000THB in the Bank for 3 months?  I am earning the money here in Chiang Mai and have a work permit? Also do you have to earn that money overseas or is it OK to earn the money here in Thailand and I just show letter from employer/Bank Statements? 

 

If someone could please help clarify so i don't have any problems when I go to renew I would very much appreciate your advises. 

 

Thank you so much. 

[ubonjoe]

1. You can apply for the extension in Chiang Mai if that is where you are living. Where have you been doing your 90 day reports to?

2. You can use the 40k baht income option. You are not locked in to the money in bank option.

You will need your work permit to prove you are working legally. Tax payment receipts to prove your income and your annual tax return if you did one for last year. They may also want some company registration proof. You should check with CM immigration to find out their requirements.

[Cooperlicious]

Hi and thanks Ubonjoe, 

 

My first 90 day report since I moved here is due next week so I will do it then. 

 

Awesome thanks so much for your help. So work permit, tax payment receipts, annual tax return from last year and check the Chiang Mai Immigration website for anything else they may need? 

 

Thanks 

[Cooperlicious]

Sorry one more quick question? 

 

Is there a certain length of history I need to show them? I started working last month so by December I will only be able to show 4 months of payment history. Is that enough? 

[ubonjoe]

You only need to be working 2 or 3 months so you will have plenty of proof when you apply in December.

[elviajero]

31 minutes ago, Cooperlicious said:

Hi and thanks Ubonjoe, 

 

My first 90 day report since I moved here is due next week so I will do it then. 

 

Awesome thanks so much for your help. So work permit, tax payment receipts, annual tax return from last year and check the Chiang Mai Immigration website for anything else they may need? 

 

Thanks 

As you did the extension of stay when in Bangkok you should submit a formal change of address to the Chiang Mai office, ideally before, you make your first report.

 

You will need to complete form TM.28 for the change of address. They might also want proof of address, and maybe a form TM.30 completed by the owner/housemaster of the new address.

 

[Cooperlicious]

Thanks alot for the advice. 

 

Ill take the TM28 to the Imm office tomorrow and see what they say. If they are happy with that I will go ahead and do the 90 day report. 

 

Thanks Again 

[Bredbury Blue]

I used to do Non-O Marriage Visa Extension based on working salary, but switched on the advice of the immigration officer to based on b400k in my bank, and he wasn't wrong, it's proven far easier to apply on documents my wife and I have in hand than business documents (company documents, work permit, tax payment receipts, annual tax return, etc) we had to provide. My advice would always be to keep renewing on b400k in the bank if you can afford it, particularly if your employer might not be so amenable to providing their documentation.

[Dmaxdan]

15 hours ago, Cooperlicious said:

Hi and thanks Ubonjoe, 

 

My first 90 day report since I moved here is due next week so I will do it then. 

 

Awesome thanks so much for your help. So work permit, tax payment receipts, annual tax return from last year and check the Chiang Mai Immigration website for anything else they may need? 

 

Thanks 

I am not sure if you know, (apologies if you do) but Chiang Mai immigration is spilt into two offices. The Promenada shopping mall for 90 day reporting and the old office by CM airport for everything related to marriage visas/extensions. So you may want to pay a separate visit to the old office to clarify exactly what you need.  

[Cooperlicious]

Thanks for this. 

 

90 day report and change of address update. 

 

I went to do my 90 day report at the Promenada and the woman there was very nice but made me go to the old office near the airport to complete a change of address form first before i could complete my 90 day report. At the old office they stamped my change of address form and the woman there was not so friendly and told me that she cant put it into the computer system because the owners of the house im renting did not report I (A foreigner) was living there. She also said that i need to get the owners of my house to do this or i should fine a new house with immigration friendly owners. I told her politely that it is not my problem and what am i supposed to do with my lease agreement and my deposit, abandon it? Not gonna happen! So i just ignored her advice and went back to the Promenada office where the polite lady was very helpful and agreeable, she took the change of address stamped receipt and stapled it into the back of my passport and said to keep it there in case of confusion in the future. 90 day report done. 

[elviajero]

3 hours ago, Cooperlicious said:

Thanks for this. 

 

90 day report and change of address update. 

 

I went to do my 90 day report at the Promenada and the woman there was very nice but made me go to the old office near the airport to complete a change of address form first before i could complete my 90 day report. At the old office they stamped my change of address form and the woman there was not so friendly and told me that she cant put it into the computer system because the owners of the house im renting did not report I (A foreigner) was living there. She also said that i need to get the owners of my house to do this or i should fine a new house with immigration friendly owners. I told her politely that it is not my problem and what am i supposed to do with my lease agreement and my deposit, abandon it? Not gonna happen! So i just ignored her advice and went back to the Promenada office where the polite lady was very helpful and agreeable, she took the change of address stamped receipt and stapled it into the back of my passport and said to keep it there in case of confusion in the future. 90 day report done. 

It may not be your problem now but it could become one in the future. Immigration are tightening up on TM30 reports, and some offices will insist it's done before issuing an extension of stay.

[ocddave]

I think I may have asked this before, but which is better for the Non-Immigrant "O" Visa extension for marriage, the 400,000 baht in the bank, or the 40,000 baht equivalent income letter from US embassy? Or does immigration not really question either one? I will continue to receive a paycheck from my employer in the US, for the entire 4 years I am in Thailand, and it will obviously amount to way more than 40,000 baht per month (though I will be supporting a home in the US as well). As far as money needed while I am here, I will be transferring about 60,000 baht a month to one of my wifes bank accounts here in Bangkok, she will handle everything else from there. I would rather avoid any bank accounts in my name, or dealing with the US-IRS tax requirements for oversea accounts, I am thinking it would be better to keep finances as US only.

[elviajero]

1 minute ago, ocddave said:

I think I may have asked this before, but which is better for the Non-Immigrant "O" Visa extension for marriage, the 400,000 baht in the bank, or the 40,000 baht equivalent income letter from US embassy? Or does immigration not really question either one? I will continue to receive a paycheck from my employer in the US, for the entire 4 years I am in Thailand, and it will obviously amount to way more than 40,000 baht per month (though I will be supporting a home in the US as well). As far as money needed while I am here, I will be transferring about 60,000 baht a month to one of my wifes bank accounts here in Bangkok, she will handle everything else from there. I would rather avoid any bank accounts in my name, or dealing with the US-IRS tax requirements for oversea accounts, I am thinking it would be better to keep finances as US only.

The 40K pm income method as you don't need to tie up 400K in the bank for 2 months, unless you routinely keep at least that sum in a Thai account. It has been known for some offices to want to see proof that funds do get transferred to Thailand in which case the money going to your wife's account probably wouldn't be accepted.

[ocddave]

6 minutes ago, elviajero said:

The 40K pm income method as you don't need to tie up 400K in the bank for 2 months, unless you routinely keep at least that sum in a Thai account. It has been known for some offices to want to see proof that funds do get transferred to Thailand in which case the money going to your wife's account probably wouldn't be accepted.

 

Well thats a catch-22, hmmmmm.....I am trying to make this as painless as possible, we will be living in Muang Thong Thani near the Impact Theater Arena in Bangkok.....not sure if that implies a certain immigration office we would most likely use, or not?

[ubonjoe]

11 hours ago, ocddave said:

 

Well thats a catch-22, hmmmmm.....I am trying to make this as painless as possible, we will be living in Muang Thong Thani near the Impact Theater Arena in Bangkok.....not sure if that implies a certain immigration office we would most likely use, or not?

Your income affidavit proves your income. I can see no problem with the funds going into an account in your wife's name since you are not using that account to prove your income or to show the 400k baht. The account will show funds coming in from abroad which will be enough back up proof for the affidavit.