Boon Mee Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: Exactly my complaint. There is no justice when the rich and powerful are immune from consequences for their crimes. Although in more specific terms we're witnessing a certain Democrat seemingly immune to prosecution... Edited September 4, 2016 by Boon Mee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stander Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 9/2/2016 at 1:56 PM, stander said: She has not spoken to a nonpaying audience for over a month, her campaign is now only fundraising and attacking, they are too arrogant to get out and earn votes Where has Clinton been? Ask the ultrarich http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fundraising.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 10 hours ago, Linzz said: Since when does your opinion constitute "vital facts and factors"? I had no argument with your historical meanderings except seemingly wildly off topic and the rest over blown rhetoric as per usual. So why do you think I was obligated to answer any of it? "You even throw in a statement attributed to HRC that she hasn't made. Gotta do better than that" Appearing on CNN, Democratic Party presidential nominee Hillary Clinton denied that donations to the Clinton Foundation played any role in who she met with as secretary of state. “There’s a lot of smoke and there’s no fire,” Clinton told Anderson Cooper. Try google " Hillary says there is lots of smoke but no fire" About 4,420,000 results Take your pick. Gotta do better than that over there on the political-cultural fringe left Let me try this again.... My post you had replied to concluded with the present, not the past as you had alleged. As I wrote: None of 'em however are wild or radical, nor are they completely erratic, undisciplined, ignorant and immensely dangerous as Potus. In my referencing of past Democratic party nominees and figures, I'd further said Trump is a wildman and radical who predicates his campaign on exclusion and prejudice, to include race, national origin, religion; and that Trump favors government mass police forces and actions, social upheaval and disorder, and worse. And I noted Donald Trump is an ignoramus megalomaniac. This is what I said you'd failed to address and the deficiency continues, rather shamelessly at that. And if someone doesn't like the campaign slogan "I'm with her" then that would be an individual preference. Your preference, "I'm with you" is exactly that, i.e., your preference. In fact just about the only thing we haven't heard squawking of in this campaign is her hair. Her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Publicus said: just about the only thing we haven't heard squawking of in this campaign is her hair. Simply because there are virtually boatloads of serious scandals surrounding Crooked Hillary upon which to focus. Her hair doesn't hit the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Reset your radar over there on the fringe right. Here's a focus group in Wisconsin which Trump and his campaign believe is a blue state for Potus that they can win against Hillary Clinton due to her unfavorable ratings. From the Charlie Cook Political Report.... Amy Walter: “At the very end of the two-plus hour session Hart asked these Wisconsinites who they thought would ultimately win the race. All but one picked Clinton. Why? They think that Trump can’t change and won’t change…” “The bottom line: voters know that neither candidate is likely to change, but that is a bigger problem for Trump than Clinton. My impression from listening to these voters is that they want to see a more professional and even-tempered Trump – two even specifically pointed to the debates as important markers. Yet, even if Trump were to suddenly become ‘more presidential’ and perform in a professional way during the debates, these voters aren’t convinced that it will stick. They are grudgingly accepting a Clinton candidacy, but not enthusiastically embracing it.” To paraphrase the best selling book of fiction, anyone who's been around long enough knows that: not to the swift is the race, nor to the mighty the battle, nor even to the wise bread, nor even to the intelligent wealth, nor even to the skillful grace, for time and circumstance happen with them all. The paraphrasing is worth it because good fiction always has a truth to it. After the debates especially, voters will make it a point to vote on election day to put the responsible and stable Hillary Clinton in the oval office behind the desk. Donald Trump will present himself more maturely during the debates, however, being Donald Trump, he will invariably self-immolate as a candidate for Potus. Edited September 4, 2016 by Publicus Revision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 ^^Neither ”Responsible" nor "Stable" are adjectives that should be used to describe HRC, unless of course you refer to her criminal responsibility.Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Mr Trump is openly flawed….'tis the nature of the human condition…..but Hillary is an insidious, sly and totally corrupt person who tries to hide her many and serious flaws below the veneer of her years of public service. Thankfully we are living in a more connected world where people can be informed directly of her countless misdeeds via information prophets like Julian Assange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 The woman is obviously medically and morally unfit to be president. There is self-evident collusion between the press and the mega rich to censor or silence information damaging to the Clinton campaign. There's a clip at the end of the video link which shows her having a seizure on camera. Look at the reaction of the journalist who asked her a question if you are still unsure what you are seeing is normal or not.https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ren0vHuq-1ASent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) Hillary Clinton will be our next president primarily because she's running against a candidate MUCH WORSE than she is. It is what it is. Honest people, including trump cult members, know I'm right. Fully acknowledging Hillary Clinton's flaws which would with little doubt be fatal to her candidacy IF she was running against a normal person, but, guess what, she isn't. trump is an extremely toxic and FREAKISH aberration and his movement needs to be CRUSHED for the sake of the future of the USA and the world. She won't win because she's a woman. She'll win because she's NOT trump! Quote A Public Service Announcement Can’t understand why someone you’re close with would vote for Trump? The best way to convince them, says Ortega, is to be patient—and avoid confrontation. “All you can do is just say, ‘Listen, whatever you get involved with, you're still my brother, I still love you, I want to hear about what you're going through, and I want to keep talking.'" At some point, the inconsistencies will break through, and you want them to feel comfortable coming to you. (Also: helpful for loved ones who happen to be Scientologists.) http://www.gq.com/story/the-cult-of-trump?mbid=synd_digg Edited September 4, 2016 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 31 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Hillary Clinton will be our next president primarily because she's running against a candidate MUCH WORSE than she is. It is what it is. Honest people, including trump cult members, know I'm right. Fully acknowledging Hillary Clinton's flaws which would with little doubt be fatal to her candidacy IF she was running against a normal person, but, guess what, she isn't. trump is an extremely toxic and FREAKISH aberration and his movement needs to be CRUSHED for the sake of the future of the USA and the world. She won't win because she's a woman. She'll win because she's NOT trump! http://www.gq.com/story/the-cult-of-trump?mbid=synd_digg Thanks for the link, provides an interesting insight into the person Rick Alan Ross, the author of The Cult of Trump. A so called Republican but given what he is on about it appears that he maybe from the Never Trump Brigade. Do you know anything about this guy? He has done some good things but has quite a checkered past with the Law. Maybe before he throws stones he should realise that he too has quite a few skeletons in the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Who cares, dude? Mr. Ross isn't running for president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 So, round and round it goes- he's evil, she's a crook, etc etc. Well, we're just going to have to wait till November to see who is the most unpopular of the two, as it isn't going to be won on popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Who cares, dude? Mr. Ross isn't running for president. Who cares, dude? Mr. Ross isn't running for president. Listen pal, never said he was. Just a reminder that before you put in a link that relates to something you want to use to show up Trump then you should at least make sure the author has no background flaws. Afraid to acknowledge his criminal background are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Listen pal, never said he was. Just a reminder that before you put in a link that relates to something you want to use to show up Trump then you should at least make sure the author has no background flaws. Afraid to acknowledge his criminal background are we? What a load of bull. The serious stuff was in his youth and the more recent stuff was in retribution of his obviously good work trying to free people from dangerous cults. Irrelevant to the article about trump. Weak pathetic deflection to go after his past legal problems by an obvious trump apologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Steely Dan said: The woman is obviously medically and morally unfit to be president. There is self-evident collusion between the press and the mega rich to censor or silence information damaging to the Clinton campaign. There's a clip at the end of the video link which shows her having a seizure on camera. Look at the reaction of the journalist who asked her a question if you are still unsure what you are seeing is normal or not.https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ren0vHuq-1A Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect It's just rubbish, even according to the reporter in question. http://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2016/08/12/i-was-there-ap-reporter-debunks-conspiracy-theory-video-shows-clinton-suffering-seizures/212383 The sort of nonsense you expect from Jones and Drudge, and anyone who takes either of them seriously has probably got neurological problems of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 45 minutes ago, Jingthing said: What a load of bull. The serious stuff was in his youth and the more recent stuff was in retribution of his obviously good work trying to free people from dangerous cults. Irrelevant to the article about trump. Weak pathetic deflection to go after his past legal problems by an obvious trump apologist. No, it is not BS, it is there on his record for anyone to see. I have already said he has done some good work, that was never denied. If you don't like you golden boys being criticised and his past exposed, then before you post links, check their backgrounds before doing so. OMG, so it's alright for the HRC cheer squad to bring up past transgressions of people on Trump's side but when it happens to your lot, you cry fowl, call it a deflection and call people apologists. Give me a break and stop being such a hypocrite, it only lessens your credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 It is amazing how the outstanding law suits against Trump for child rape and fraud never get a mention in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTC Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, Si Thea01 said: No, it is not BS, it is there on his record for anyone to see. I have already said he has done some good work, that was never denied. If you don't like you golden boys being criticised and his past exposed, then before you post links, check their backgrounds before doing so. OMG, so it's alright for the HRC cheer squad to bring up past transgressions of people on Trump's side but when it happens to your lot, you cry fowl, call it a deflection and call people apologists. Give me a break and stop being such a hypocrite, it only lessens your credibility. Why are you talking about poultry? The Right seem to be such cry-babies. Constantly whining about being 'picked on'. Upset when their conspiracy theories and selfish, divisive and exclusive ideology gets shown for the BS that it is. I think this topic is about Americans hating Clinton, not Australians. What business is it of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 No, it is not BS, it is there on his record for anyone to see. I have already said he has done some good work, that was never denied. If you don't like you golden boys being criticised and his past exposed, then before you post links, check their backgrounds before doing so. OMG, so it's alright for the HRC cheer squad to bring up past transgressions of people on Trump's side but when it happens to your lot, you cry fowl, call it a deflection and call people apologists. Give me a break and stop being such a hypocrite, it only lessens your credibility. The cult specialist did not lie about his youthful mistakes or legal complications resulting from his cult work. He is not a surrogate for the Clinton campaign either. He is in fact a republican. There is no equivalence between him and trump campaign leaders and surrogates being caught in blatant lies and scandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 17 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The cult specialist did not lie about his youthful mistakes or legal complications resulting from his cult work. He is not a surrogate for the Clinton campaign either. He is in fact a republican. There is no equivalence between him and trump campaign leaders and surrogates being caught in blatant lies and scandals. Didn't call him a liar nor a surrogate for Clinton. Obviously you don't read, have already acknowledged that he say he is a Republican. Have never said there hasn't been lies and scandals, it is you who has trouble in admitting that it applies equally to the HRC camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 He's not in her camp. He was quoted in an article about trump and shared his expertise about cults. You're arguing about an irrelevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 9/1/2016 at 7:43 AM, boomerangutang said: The Republican Attack Machine is getting some of their desired results. If they repeat lies and attacks often and forcefully enough, some of it will stick. Republicans don't need to lie....Hillary does all that automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 An inflammatory post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 33 minutes ago, Jingthing said: 1 hour ago, PTC said: He's not in her camp. He was quoted in an article about trump and shared his expertise about cults. You're arguing about an irrelevance. It's really funny with you. You go to trouble to have a go at me and within two posts you tell me, in two different ways, that he has nothing to do with the HRC camp. For god sake read what I write, I have already acknowledged twice that he isn't and that he says, albeit not a loyal one, a moderate Republican and you're still going on about him. Now, one of three things have occurred, either you haven't read the article, which was written by Rebecca Nelson, you cannot comprehend what you have read or you are being very liberal with the truth. After a couple of introductory paragraphs, your hero then takes three paragraphs to totally denigrates Trump. So where am I arguing about an irrelevance. I'd like you to show me why but you won't because you can't. Oh wait, given you from the HRC camp, then go ahead, change some words around, add a few or just make up your response. The latter would probably be best then you can keep telling yourself over and over and you will end up believing your own BS. Or, as is your usual offering, just plain ignore it and do what you do best, deflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 14 minutes ago, Si Thea01 said: It's really funny with you. You go to trouble to have a go at me and within two posts you tell me, in two different ways, that he has nothing to do with the HRC camp. For god sake read what I write, I have already acknowledged twice that he isn't and that he says, albeit not a loyal one, a moderate Republican and you're still going on about him. Now, one of three things have occurred, either you haven't read the article, which was written by Rebecca Nelson, you cannot comprehend what you have read or you are being very liberal with the truth. After a couple of introductory paragraphs, your hero then takes three paragraphs to totally denigrates Trump. So where am I arguing about an irrelevance. I'd like you to show me why but you won't because you can't. Oh wait, given you from the HRC camp, then go ahead, change some words around, add a few or just make up your response. The latter would probably be best then you can keep telling yourself over and over and you will end up believing your own BS. Or, as is your usual offering, just plain ignore it and do what you do best, deflect. Pot kettle black, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajarTheLion Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 On 8/31/2016 at 10:53 PM, LuckyNo4 said: Yeh hes so unpopular he's filling football stadiums full of supporters everywhere he goes. Oh come on now, Hillary is drawing HUGE crowds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajarTheLion Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Hillary's likability problem is probably going to get worse. With yet more information coming out this weekend about how incompetent and dishonest she is, it reinforces the already negative perceptions of her. Trump clearly has the momentum at this point and Hillary is cutting back her campaigning- most likely due to very serious health concerns. Let's face it- there's a plethora of little bits and pieces that all point to her being quite ill. Her catheter, her inability to walk up a few steps without two people helping her, her bizarre seizures. She's not well at all. Oh and of course then there's Wikileaks. To my knowledge, Julian Assange has never failed to deliver promised goods. If he produces emails that show Hillary armed ISIS, even the leftist media is going to have trouble spinning that for her. No, I don't see a likability bounce in her future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary A Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 Sage advice is; It's better to tell the truth because it's easier to remember what you said. Hillary has lied so much that she now has to say she doesn't remember. I can no longer stand the sound of hr voice. Do the democrats have a plan if it is found she is not qualified to run for office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Gary A said: Sage advice is; It's better to tell the truth because it's easier to remember what you said. Hillary has lied so much that she now has to say she doesn't remember. I can no longer stand the sound of hr voice. Do the democrats have a plan if it is found she is not qualified to run for office? There is no need for a plan. She'll be elected president and then if she can't serve, her VICE president Tim Kaine will then take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: There is no need for a plan. She'll be elected president and then if she can't serve, her VICE president Tim Kaine will then take over. That is if she makes it to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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