Thai attitude to foreigners: An all time low?

[poohy]

On 11/30/2018 at 12:26 PM, madmen said:

Pkk

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He means Prachuap Khiri khan i have lived here 6 years its an ok place wouldnt say people are overly friendly though but for sure better than HH

I fact i live about 15 km south of PKK in a rural area you are generally ignored as if you dont exist,  suits me fine!

 

[neeray]

On ‎11‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 12:53 AM, madmen said:

It's so bad here lately I was at home pro and asked for the location of a product and the guy didn't even look up from his phone and just pointed in the distance

I guess you were persona non grata to him. Just accept that.

[neeray]

On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 3:22 PM, pattayadude said:

Of course their ability to speak perfect english must be the biggest bonus.

Interesting. I am aware that they receive English in schools in PH. But many of the ones that I have met in Canada are accented so heavily, they are hard to understand. Hardly what I would call "perfect English".

[pattayadude]

59 minutes ago, neeray said:

Interesting. I am aware that they receive English in schools in PH. But many of the ones that I have met in Canada are accented so heavily, they are hard to understand. Hardly what I would call "perfect English".

maybe the ones migrated to Canada are from a couple of generations before. the new generation with the social media in the pocket speak much better then their older counterparts

[Rimmer]

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[geriatrickid]

On 11/30/2018 at 8:12 AM, Don Chance said:

Right wing nationalism, Thai-supremists.

20 million+ rich farangs who could care less about their culture flooding their country every year, what do you expect?

Go to Goa or Kerala or anywhere in India you will find Indians a world of nicer than Thai's.

In India 'guest is god.'

LOL. Seriously? spoken like a  male.  Women are at risk of being assaulted and raped. India is a sh*thouse when it comes to tourism and Thailand has Nothing, absolutely nothing to learn from India. India has hundreds of millions of people living in penury so it is to be expected that some will bow down before anyone with a bit of dosh. Thailand doesn't have the same level of poverty and certainly has a higher degree of literacy. One can go on for pages as to  hw much better Thailand is, including hospitality.

 

 

What we have here is a thread driven  in large part by the observations of disappointed sexpats. In the  regular world of Thailand, the world of skilled people, of those with an education, they are as friendly and hospitable as anywhere  else in the world. It is just silly to expect Thais to get excited over elderly foreigners. It is not as if these foreigners are anything special are they? I certainly do not get excited over seeing some retired  lorry driver in Tesco, or a tatooed yob liquored up at Central, or an elderly European in thong. Why then is it expected that the locals are expect to greet every farang as if it is a visit from heavens?

 

Thais still respond to people based upon how they  conduct themselves and how they are  attired. Dress like a slob, and conduct yourself like an uncouth visigoth and you will be treated accordingly. Thais under the age of 30, ridicule smokers and they don't like fat people. The world has changed and so has Thailand.

 

 

[poohy]

15 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Thais still respond to people based upon how they  conduct themselves and how they are  attired. Dress like a slob, and conduct yourself like an uncouth visigoth and you will be treated accordingly. Thais under the age of 30, ridicule smokers and they don't like fat people. The world has changed and so has Thailand.

I dont know where you reside but  theres plenty of chunky Thais around here and every local teen smokes in my village it seems along with a plethora of males in PKK.

As for Thai and farangs, out of tourist areas most Thais ignore you and avoid any means of interaction (probably real or perceived language difficulties) or frankly they just dont care.Obviously there are outgoing ones but usually few and far between.

Our neighbour opposite (in fact the only other house in about 3 km) has spoken to us about 3 times in 5 years, no problems they are conservative farmers, my wife is from Bangkok has no interest in farming, or them and likewise.

(i simply dont count although they know can speak Thai, but then again what would they want to say to me or me to them!)  

[morrobay]

On 9/20/2016 at 7:08 PM, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

And the evidence mounts but not in Pattaya.  Was at a popular, high-end pizza place in Bangkok this afternoon. Lots of staff, not that busy, so no one's overworked. I know they get good training from the foreign owners and staff have to have a modicum of English skills. Sorry, not giving the name.

 

Girl behind the counter drops off my slices on the counter in front of me and walks away without a glance or a word. Afterward, I smile (as I always do) and ask for a toothpick. Another girl with a slightly bothered look swings around but has already turned away without a glance or a word after slapping the dispenser on the counter. I stand at the cash casually waiting for my bill. I don't say anything, no pressure from me. A bill suddenly shoots out of the machine, the cashier grabs a bill holder, noisily slaps it on the counter, noisily slaps the paper bill on it as if she couldn't wait to do something else.

 

At no point did anyone ever smile, thank me for my patronage or encourage me to come back or say anything when I wordlessly walked out the door. 

 

I say there is no excuse for this kind of treatment.  In my semi-expat neighbourhood, service is quite OK. But I'm tired of the BS. Am looking at leaving end of November.

 

 

Relax Bud, all the staff owe you  is what your paying for. I would be more concerned over the pizza quality than some lack of chump change smiles. I would have had no problem in there. 

[sirineou]

People don't like people that dont like them.

 Their opinion of may of as, is directly proportional to the opinion that many of as have of them.

I often see the Thai bashing threads on TVF and am embarrassed by them, I think how embarrassing if my Thai family knew.

  Well, I think they all are beginning to know, 

  

[pattayadude]

34 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Relax Bud, all the staff owe you  is what your paying for. I would be more concerned over the pizza quality than some lack of chump change smiles. I would have had no problem in there. 

 

35 minutes ago, morrobay said:

On 9/20/2016 at 8:08 PM, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

Im sure he is relaxed and probably long gone by now

[stanleycoin]

2 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

LOL. Seriously? spoken like a  male.  Women are at risk of being assaulted and raped. India is a sh*thouse when it comes to tourism and Thailand has Nothing, absolutely nothing to learn from India. India has hundreds of millions of people living in penury so it is to be expected that some will bow down before anyone with a bit of dosh. Thailand doesn't have the same level of poverty and certainly has a higher degree of literacy. One can go on for pages as to  hw much better Thailand is, including hospitality.

 

 

What we have here is a thread driven  in large part by the observations of disappointed sexpats. In the  regular world of Thailand, the world of skilled people, of those with an education, they are as friendly and hospitable as anywhere  else in the world. It is just silly to expect Thais to get excited over elderly foreigners. It is not as if these foreigners are anything special are they? I certainly do not get excited over seeing some retired  lorry driver in Tesco, or a tatooed yob liquored up at Central, or an elderly European in thong. Why then is it expected that the locals are expect to greet every farang as if it is a visit from heavens?

 

Thais still respond to people based upon how they  conduct themselves and how they are  attired. Dress like a slob, and conduct yourself like an uncouth visigoth and you will be treated accordingly. Thais under the age of 30, ridicule smokers and they don't like fat people. The world has changed and so has Thailand.

 

 

You sound like your  from Hua Hin ?

[neeray]

On ‎9‎/‎20‎/‎2016 at 8:08 AM, Kaoboi Bebobp said:

At no point did anyone ever smile, thank me for my patronage or encourage me to come back or say anything when I wordlessly walked out the door. 

 

I say there is no excuse for this kind of treatment.  In my semi-expat neighbourhood, service is quite OK. But I'm tired of the BS. Am looking at leaving end of November.

I guess I've been lucky. Having bought goods and services north and south in Thailand from food to transportation services, I have found the service quality and customer interaction to be basically superior to my highly developed home country.

 

[morrobay]

14 hours ago, sirineou said:

People don't like people that dont like them.

 Their opinion of may of as, is directly proportional to the opinion that many of as have of them.

I often see the Thai bashing threads on TVF and am embarrassed by them, I think how embarrassing if my Thai family knew.

  Well, I think they all are beginning to know, 

  

Thai "bashing" ? Are you referring to foreigners complaining about local lowlifes riding motorbikes on pedestrian walkways, Thais driving through red light/pedestrian crossings, taxi and tour bus drivers making a garbage mess and smoking wherever they park, total incompetence in public works projects (Pattaya beach/walkway). Are the above constructive criticisms - I meant "Thai bashing" what you are referring to ?

[sirineou]

31 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Thai "bashing" ? Are you referring to foreigners complaining about local lowlifes riding motorbikes on pedestrian walkways, Thais driving through red light/pedestrian crossings, taxi and tour bus drivers making a garbage mess and smoking wherever they park, total incompetence in public works projects (Pattaya beach/walkway). Are the above constructive criticisms - I meant "Thai bashing" what you are referring to ?

Nothing Thai do, is right with some of you, the most positive news reported will be found with negative responses.

It is amazing how Thais and Thailand has survived so long without your " constructive criticism"  

[Naam]

31 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Nothing Thai do, is right with some of you, the most positive news reported will be found with negative responses.

It is amazing how Thais and Thailand has survived so long without your " constructive criticism"  

[neeray]

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

Nothing Thai do, is right with some of you, the most positive news reported will be found with negative responses.

It is amazing how Thais and Thailand has survived so long without your " constructive criticism"  

+ ONE.

 

[simoh1490]

+TWO

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[GinBoy2]

22 hours ago, pattayadude said:

unfriendly staff is a norm in any business in LOS

I honestly believe it's got much worse with the prevalence of smartphones.

 

I don't think you see in most countries entire staff while at work staring constantly at their phone screen with little or no interest to actually wrench themselves away to assist customers. 

 

In most countries that I know, that's a quick way to find yourself unemployed.

But in Thailand it's pretty much the norm nowadays, with it appears no consequences!

 

[simoh1490]

22 hours ago, pattayadude said:

unfriendly staff is a norm in any business in LOS

That's completely false, it might be the norm for you, in which case you need to look in the mirror because it's certainly not the norm for most of the rest of us....that said, I do believe that locals get jaded faster in tourist destination than they do in the real Thailand.

[fondue zoo]

With every 7/11 I've entered the staff always say "sawadee ka chern ka", and sure sometimes when they're busy it's said on auto-pilot but my hello hug gets their attention real fast. ????

 

I recall reading some typical greetings elsewhere online:

You no buy beer now! You come here every day and same same try buy beer. No buy! Stupid like buffalo.

or

What are YOU doing here again?...No more condoms and beer, khrap! 

 

[pattayadude]

29 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

That's completely false, it might be the norm for you, in which case you need to look in the mirror because it's certainly not the norm for most of the rest of us....that said, I do believe that locals get jaded faster in tourist destination than they do in the real Thailand.

this is a Pattaya forum. My opinions about unfriendly staff is about  Pattaya.

You should express your "eternal love" towards the "friendly Thais" in other local forums.

 

Unfriendliness is not an insult by the way.

It may be a cultural thing.

In some countries, being  friendly and smiling isn't a norm. it's a way of life.

in some countries it is.

 

[fruitman]

On 9/2/2016 at 2:53 PM, JHolmesJr said:

What do you expect from people who are paid 300baht a day?

There are plenty Thai who make that ten times on a day....how else could they afford the new cars and big houses?

[Odysseus123]

On 9/3/2016 at 8:57 AM, simon43 said:

 

 

 

Slightly off-topic, but when I visited London for the first time in many years, I was surprised at how polite the shop staff were, with many Eastern Europeans, Asian staff etc all polite.

 

'Thank-you Sir'

'Can I help you Sir'

 

etc 

 

My brother, who lives in England told me that actually they are mostly quoting from a rehearsed script, giving polite but canned responses to customers' common and expected questions, since their knowledge of English language was rather poor.

 

He said that you can confirm this by giving a totally unexpected response, such as 'Please rub my nipples with a wet lettuce', as which point the staff member will become totally flustered and rush to search their script for the correct reply to this comment. 

Kindly point out to me any country on Earth whose population would respond positively (on an every day level) to "please rub my nipples with a wet lettuce.."

 

In my country that would earn you..

1.The attention of police.

2.A free all expenses paid visit to a psychiatric registrar at the local hospital.

3.If you persisted-free bed and board at a place not of your choosing.

4.Your cousin is not exactly versed in Aristotelian logic is he/she?

[Aforek]

Not where I live ( upcountry in Thailand ) ; every body is nice with me, very smiling

again, behaviour of people is not the same in city, touristic places and in the deep Thailand 

 

[brling]

21 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

 Thais under the age of 30, ridicule smokers and they don't like fat people. 

 

 

Thais are the second fattest people in asia, aiming for the number 1 spot, by the look of it. btw you will need to remove the rose tints before you defenders will see it.

[Odysseus123]

7 minutes ago, brling said:

Thais are the second fattest people in asia, aiming for the number 1 spot, by the look of it. btw you will need to remove the rose tints before you defenders will see it.

Very true.

I am sure that they will make number one spot soon-that is,if they try hard enough.????

[morrobay]

2 hours ago, Aforek said:

Not where I live ( upcountry in Thailand ) ; every body is nice with me, very smiling

again, behaviour of people is not the same in city, touristic places and in the deep Thailand 

 

If anything thais should be more friendly toward foreigners in the tourist areas since that is there lively hood. For some strange reason they want to have it both ways.

 

[pattayadude]

 

My brother, who lives in England told me that actually they are mostly quoting from a rehearsed script, giving polite but canned responses to customers' common and expected questions, since their knowledge of English language was rather poor.

 

He said that you can confirm this by giving a totally unexpected response, such as 'Please rub my nipples with a wet lettuce', as which point the staff member will become totally flustered and rush to search their script for the correct reply to this comment

in many countries that sentence would put the man in an ambulance and on the way to ER with the lettuce sticking out of .......

[lamyai3]

On 12/3/2018 at 11:30 AM, brling said:

Thais are the second fattest people in asia, aiming for the number 1 spot, by the look of it.

Crazy to consider how fast this has happened.