Home made burger buns

[billd766]

Does anybody have a good recipe for home made burger buns.

 

I have downloaded several from the internet and I am disappointed with the results so far.

 

Thanks

[Oxx]

Such a personal thing.  Recently I was surprised to have probably the best burger I've ever eaten served in a brioche bun.  I've tried this recipe since and like it:

 

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1012612-light-brioche-buns

[GinBoy2]

I've tried and failed multiple times on this. I eventually succumbed  and bought these 'supposedly' frozen English muffins at Tops which actually when toasted were pretty decent bugger buns...nothing even close to English muffins I must say

[Oxx]

22 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

pretty decent bugger buns...nothing even close to English muffins I must say

 

I believe that "buns" is a term used by Americans to describe buttocks, so what you bought, in British English, was "buggery buttocks".  Definitely not remotely close to English muffins.  Even Muffin the Mule was about ladies' front bottoms.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, Oxx said:

Such a personal thing.  Recently I was surprised to have probably the best burger I've ever eaten served in a brioche bun.  I've tried this recipe since and like it:

 

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1012612-light-brioche-buns

 

Thanks a lot for your link.

 

A Thai friend is thinking of opening a small cafe/restaurant at the mixed farm and hydroponic farm they have and would like to serve all home made food and they asked me if I want to supply perhaps 10 or 20 or more buns a day.

 

I got 3 recipes from the internet and tried the first 2. The say use all purpose flour which I did. The first ones didn't rise at all so I threw them away after cooking. I made a second batch today using all purpose flour as in the recipe. The consistency was right but they still didn't rise so I dumped that without even bothering to bake it.

 

I was going to try the #2 recipe again tomorrow using bread flour and when I read your recipe that has bread flour too so I will try that one first.

 

I will take some photos of the finished product (if it works) and post them in the next couple of days.

[Denim]

Making homemade buns is not as easy as making homemade burger patties. It will be a real labour of love without any profit to show. If you are doing it for the love of good food .....ok. But if you are doing it with a view to make some profit you will probably be disappointed. More trouble than it's worth.

[MissAndry]

bread,

400ml bread flour, 160ml (ish) water (but you need to vary this for the right consistancy dough and it changes depending on the quality of flour), 10ml Fermiplan red yeast, 20ml sugar, pinch of salt. Stire it all together into dough, no need to knead, just mix it thoroughly. Finished dough should be slightly damp, slightly sticky. Leave covered in plastic to rise for 2 hours (it'll be very sticky), divide into roll shapes being careful not to flatten the dough more than you have to. Cook immediately, or leave covered to rise a bit more.

 

Very easy to make bread, with white bread flour, but you have to recognize the right 'feel' of the dough. Too dry and it won't rise, too wet and it's too hard to shape.

 

Production cost of rolls, 1 or 2 baht each (which is reason enough to make them yourself).

[billd766]

4 minutes ago, Denim said:

Making homemade buns is not as easy as making homemade burger patties. It will be a real labour of love without any profit to show. If you are doing it for the love of good food .....ok. But if you are doing it with a view to make some profit you will probably be disappointed. More trouble than it's worth.

 

They have offered to pay me for it but if it comes off I will probably end up swapping the buns for fresh hydroponics salad stuff (urgghhh) for my wife to eat.

 

They are also breeding a few goats for meat so there may be goat burgers and goat curry on the menu.

 

Goat curry and a bottle of this might be interesting.

 

http://www.nepalkhukurihouse.com/464/Coronation-Khukri-XXX-Rum.php

[Jip99]

9 minutes ago, Denim said:

Making homemade buns is not as easy as making homemade burger patties. It will be a real labour of love without any profit to show. If you are doing it for the love of good food .....ok. But if you are doing it with a view to make some profit you will probably be disappointed. More trouble than it's worth.

 

 

I would tend to agree with that conclusion. I think it also depends where you live; in Pattaya, for example, there are a host of suppliers of decent burger buns.

[MissAndry]

2 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

there are a host of suppliers of decent burger buns.

 

But that's most of your profit gone.

[billd766]

5 minutes ago, MissAndry said:

bread,

400ml bread flour, 160ml (ish) water (but you need to vary this for the right consistancy dough and it changes depending on the quality of flour), 10ml Fermiplan red yeast, 20ml sugar, pinch of salt. Stire it all together into dough, no need to knead, just mix it thoroughly. Finished dough should be slightly damp, slightly sticky. Leave covered in plastic to rise for 2 hours (it'll be very sticky), divide into roll shapes being careful not to flatten the dough more than you have to. Cook immediately, or leave covered to rise a bit more.

 

Very easy to make bread, with white bread flour, but you have to recognize the right 'feel' of the dough. Too dry and it won't rise, too wet and it's too hard to shape.

 

Production cost of rolls, 1 or 2 baht each (which is reason enough to make them yourself).

 

 

Thanks for the recipe.

 

I hope to get around to that one by the weekend.

[billd766]

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

I would tend to agree with that conclusion. I think it also depends where you live; in Pattaya, for example, there are a host of suppliers of decent burger buns.

 

We live in deepest darkest rural Khampaeng Phet. The closest place for burger buns is probably 7/11 6km away or a 130 km round trip to Makro at KPP.

[Jip99]

3 minutes ago, MissAndry said:

 

But that's most of your profit gone.

 

 

Yes. But I don't have Paul Hollywood's cold hands!

[Jip99]

4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

We live in deepest darkest rural Khampaeng Phet. The closest place for burger buns is probably 7/11 6km away or a 130 km round trip to Makro at KPP.

 

 

I wasn't aware that 7/11 had any burger buns (or any decent bread for that matter).

 

Get a friend to buy a couple of dozen and put them on the bus, then stick them in the freezer.....

 

 

[Oxx]

8 hours ago, MissAndry said:

bread,

400ml bread flour, 160ml (ish) water (but you need to vary this for the right consistancy dough and it changes depending on the quality of flour), 10ml Fermiplan red yeast, 20ml sugar, pinch of salt

 

Sorry, but that's a recipe for bread rolls, not for burger buns.  Burger buns are enriched with butter and egg to give them a soft texture.

[wayned]

Bill

 

Whether or not you find a good recipe for buns, I would seriously consider a business arrangement, especially with a friend, where you are locked into supplying "buns" 7 days a week.  A commitment of spending time 7 days a week for little return or no return.  Things could go sour real fast.  Been there, done that!

[billd766]

43 minutes ago, wayned said:

Bill

 

Whether or not you find a good recipe for buns, I would seriously consider a business arrangement, especially with a friend, where you are locked into supplying "buns" 7 days a week.  A commitment of spending time 7 days a week for little return or no return.  Things could go sour real fast.  Been there, done that!

 

Thanks for your thoughts and advice.

 

It is still in the planning stages yet and it may not come off. In the early days there will perhaps 10 buns a day and expansion if and when things go well for her.

 

At the moment I am just trying to get a good recipe for buns. The first two I got from the internet were a disaster and they didn't rise at all. Today I am trying the one from Oxx at post #2. So far at least the dough is rising for the first batch of 8. This first test batch will take about an hour to do so if it works OK I can make perhaps 30 in a day and build up a stock if I want a day off.

 

If it works  today I will look at buying a bigger stand mixer (mine is a cheapo one that I bought about 3 years ago) for 1,300 baht locally. It only has a 300 watt motor and struggles when I make my own bread so If I buy anything I can use it for myself anyway.

 

Alternatively I can get my wife and our neighbour to make them if I want a day odd.

[billd766]

On 9/6/2016 at 2:54 PM, Oxx said:

Such a personal thing.  Recently I was surprised to have probably the best burger I've ever eaten served in a brioche bun.  I've tried this recipe since and like it:

 

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1012612-light-brioche-buns

 

I tried this recipe today and it passed the farang and 4 Thai test.

 

What I need to do if I want to get it right is to weigh the dough for each bum and make them in 100 and 150 gram sizes. I must also keep a closer eye on the timer.

 

Thanks for a great recipe. As close as I can figure each roll costs out at around 2 baht without my labour and that was only about 40 minutes working time plus a couple of hours for the dough to rise.

[Oxx]

28 minutes ago, billd766 said:

weigh the dough for each bum

 

That's not a nice way to refer to your testers/customers.  

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Oxx said:

 

That's not a nice way to refer to your testers/customers.  

 

I was right this afternoon when I told my wife I needed new glasses.

 

I do try and I usually manage to catch most of the errors but some of the little buggers try to sneak past and make it.

[Oxx]

12 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I do try and I usually manage to catch most of the errors but some of the little buggers try to sneak past and make it.

 

Did you mean "little burgers"?

[NickJ]

If it's a rising problem. Your yeast could be bad. Esp if you bought a large pack and have had it awhile. My Ex got where she could bang out four dozen in no time. I also recommend the pinterest app. 100's if not more of recipes.

[billd766]

 

The first 2 recipes called for all purpose flour which I used and the third one called for bread flour which I used.

 

I used yeast from the same container for all 3 but only the one using the bread flour rose.

 

 

[NickJ]

Try an egg wash on them next time and it will add a nice shine to them and you can also sprinkle some sesame seeds on them. Sesame seeds are easy to find here. Both white and black ones.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, NickJ said:

Try an egg wash on them next time and it will add a nice shine to them and you can also sprinkle some sesame seeds on them. Sesame seeds are easy to find here. Both white and black ones.

 

I did the egg wash but I had no sesame seeds at the time.

 

I think I left them in the oven a couple of minutes too long or perhaps 10 degrees too hot.

[NickJ]

Well baking is hit and miss. But trust me about pinterest.  As it sounds to me like you are trying to supplement your living expenses. Many or most on this forum don't understand that and will condem you for trying to earn an average Thai wage in no time. 

For me. I understand the value of the Thai baht. If you think like a local. You are always better off. Every baht counts.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, NickJ said:

Well baking is hit and miss. But trust me about pinterest.  As it sounds to me like you are trying to supplement your living expenses. Many or most on this forum don't understand that and will condem you for trying to earn an average Thai wage in no time. 

For me. I understand the value of the Thai baht. If you think like a local. You are always better off. Every baht counts.

 

Actually I am not trying to supplement my income but more help out a friend.

 

For me it is just a case of making a few bread rolls a day/week so my investment will be little or nothing. For my friend and her husband the investment will be much more with more to lose if it fails.

 

I make a lot of my own western food as I live in rural Thailand and my nearest BigC/Makro etc is 65 km away. By making my own food I know what goes into it and I can modify it to my own tastes. Shop/supermarket bought stuff means you have no idea what is in it and it is take it or leave it.

 

I had a look at pinterest and to get a closer look I need to sign up. I started that and then it wanted more personal information about me so I binned it.

[NickJ]

Yeah...I held of signing up as well. But it is pretty cool. Great recipes for everything. Everything. Plus lots of other categories like history.  

Good luck with the buns.