Bangkok traffic: Cops and private sector meet at HQ to decide there are just too many cars!

[DekDaeng]

11 hours ago, NongKhaiKid said:

Five committees set up, will that be enough ?

They'd better be careful blaming the rain as there's a govt dept with a special name whose job is to produce the stuff !

Ten committees would do it in half the time -

[DekDaeng]

7 hours ago, Colabamumbai said:

Odd, even license plates drive on different days.

Car makers rejoice! We just found out how to double the market!

Might as well have plates ending in 1 ok on 1st, 11th, 21st etc - ending in 2 ok on 2nd, 12th, 

 

Best thing to do is;

1) max facilitation of public transport.

2) Slowly - tax the hell out of gas - starting at 0.1% of retail, rising 0.1%, per WEEK - money to go to pub trans projects, etc.

 

[yellowboat]

Bangkok is probably one the worst laid out cities in Asia.   Your choices to get around are limited as many soi's are dead ends.  Because of ineptitude, greed and pettiness, mass transit is not sufficient for a city the size of Bangkok.  No common fare is another issue which speaks volumes about Thailand's "elite"

 

The most hysterical thing is watching drivers paying tolls to parking lot attendants so they can cut through places with slow traffic during rush hour 

 

Was told that a well known European electronics firm, many years ago, installed a traffic management system in Bangkok.  The RTP found this threatening, so they decided to direct traffic against the lights to confuse the system and render it useless.  Not sure if this is true.  Does anyone know this story ?

[starky]

Cars only for Hi-so's and those in the military everyone else can walk like the plebs they are. Simple.

[DSJPC]

 

Many Bangkok residents have noticed that the traffic in the city has been particularly bad over the past several months with some observing that it does not seem to matter if there is a rain storm or not.

 

Thousands of new cars pour onto the capital's streets each week.

 

 

The above 4 lines make more sense than the rest of the article combined...the number of vehicles is far exceeding the infrastructure in Bangkok...and certainly in Chiang Mai too...simple as that!!!...these "geniuses" can hold meetings, form committees that will "analyze"  the situation, enact more laws, increase penalties, ad nauseum...but it ain't gonna change one damn thing!

[Xircal]

Well, you could shift some of the blame on to Yingluck. She introduced the first time car buyer scheme whereby the buyer could benefit from up to 100,000 Baht in tax refunds: http://investvine.com/thailands-first-car-buyer-incentive-scheme-collapsed/

 

So 1.25 million new cars registered of which only 16% couldn't afford to complete the purchase. That still leaves an awful lot of extra vehicles on the already overcrowded roads.

[Moonmoon]

ok i suggest the traffic light police controller who switches the traffic lights during peak hours please change the lights every 3-5mins for all sides so that everyone can move. not let 1 side go for 20mins-30mins n only allowed 2mins for the otherside. these causes jam. 

 

and kindly re plan some of your highways as well. having 3 or 2 entries converging into 2 or 3 different ways to other highways in 400meters will jam up the whole highway as well

[ToS2014]

so let's give a rebate, err tax break, to thousands of peeps who can't afford the payments (in the long term) and see how the auto industry rebounds.  OH there's not enough roads LM....O

[Keesters]

Too little thinking far too late.

 

Anyone with more than half a brain could have told you this 30 years ago. That's when I moved out.

 

Self inflicted wound.

 

 

[Keesters]

Make drivers take a new extremely strict driving test.

 

Make traffic police undergo new and strict training.

 

Build a huge umbrella over the city to protect it from rain.

 

Edited September 24, 2016 by Keesters

[mike324]

19 hours ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

Dozens of major cities around the world have implemented measures to reduce traffic in the downtown cores.

 

Too bad Thais are to proud to look at what WORKS in other places and try implementing some of those methods.

 

Get rid of 50% of the taxis to start with!!!

 

I agree, the main problem are the taxis, just too many for Bangkok. If they are really serious at all, start fining the tuk tuks and taxis that park on the streets as well.

[Yann55]

... and the mountain gave birth to a mouse ...

[Eric Loh]

A little too late. I say yes. Facts are clear that there are just too many cars in a city where roads just can't be redesigned to accommodate the volume due to lack of land acquisition laws. A car quota system will only be hijacked by politics. The only solution I see is a proper design mass transportation system and a big improvement in public transportation that are attractive enough to win car owners over. 

 

The system must be seamless in all aspect including connectability, reasonable fares, passenger friendly including the stations, well design carriages and buses, well located stations, sufficient carparks and easy reach for basic shopping. 

 

The project may have to be privatized and given to experts. No way the government can handle a project of such scale and importance. 

 

 

[HomeinThailand]

Wholly bumper to bumper cars Batman.  You mean cars are the root of all traffic jams???  Say it isn't so. 

[bristolgeoff]

i wonder how many years it took to think of why traffic is so bad in bkk and other parts of Thailand.

[dutchman]

22 hours ago, Jim walker said:

Didn’t need to get all these so so clever people together could have just asked my granddaughter she could have told them Bangkok roads designed for a maximum of 4 million cars and now over 7 million cars on the Bangkok roads a heavier tax to keep the number of vehicles down for the poor people, and a test or inspection every year for cars older than two years and any failures just crush them get the old scrap cars off the road, no need to set up police checks or tea money collection points, just install cameras all over the roads and on traffic lights to catch the red light jumpers fines issued by computer to car owner non-payments or multi fines cars impounded and crushed after 60 days non-payment.      

You re sure not a car owner.

[outsider]

"Also to blame, it was agreed, was the rain..."

 

Thailand, why do you continue to do these kinds of things???

[DSJPC]

Well, you could shift some of the blame on to Yingluck. She introduced the first time car buyer scheme whereby the buyer could benefit from up to 100,000 Baht in tax refunds:

 

Immediately after this "scheme" went into effect, I began noticing increased traffic/jams in the CM area...politicians (not just in Thailand) enact these laws without any consideration to the long-term consequences...and it ain't gonna get any better, Judy!!!

[kingalfred]

If Had brains the authorities would be dangerous. Not serious at all about solving traffic problems. The 2nd worst city in the world,put it in the TAT posters


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[irwinfc]

too many idiots driving around bangkok. cutting lanes, beating the red light (heck, many motorcycle riders habitually cross red lights), illegal parking, crossing roads at U-turn slots, blocking zebra crossings/intersections... need i go on?

[gemguy]

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Jim walker said:

Didn’t need to get all these so so clever people together could have just asked my granddaughter she could have told them Bangkok roads designed for a maximum of 4 million cars and now over 7 million cars on the Bangkok roads a heavier tax to keep the number of vehicles down for the poor people, and a test or inspection every year for cars older than two years and any failures just crush them get the old scrap cars off the road, no need to set up police checks or tea money collection points, just install cameras all over the roads and on traffic lights to catch the red light jumpers fines issued by computer to car owner non-payments or multi fines cars impounded and crushed after 60 days non-payment.      

18 hours ago, dutchman said:

 

Careful now.....Do Not be suggesting any new Rules and Regulations and or Laws here in Thailand as we all Know how good intentions run amuck here in the land of opportunistic malfeasance and corruption.

Cheers

[cncltd1973]

They won't be able to fix this in-house. So many western countries have already gone through trial and error experiments. Why not send one of the 5 councils abroad to study how other megacities manage? I'm seriously curious if any officials considered they are attempting to reinvent the wheel.

[kingalfred]

Thais aren't going to listen or told by any other country how to attempt to deal with problems..


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[trogers]

5 hours ago, cncltd1973 said:

They won't be able to fix this in-house. So many western countries have already gone through trial and error experiments. Why not send one of the 5 councils abroad to study how other megacities manage? I'm seriously curious if any officials considered they are attempting to reinvent the wheel.

 

Don't waste the nation's money on pleasure trips and then come back to implement the exact opposite...

[chainarong]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 0:19 PM, NongKhaiKid said:

Five committees set up, will that be enough ?

They'd better be careful blaming the rain as there's a govt dept with a special name whose job is to produce the stuff !

But NKK,  does this rain making dept actually make any err rain..

[chainarong]

I think the key word here is too many cars , so just kick them all out ,bingo now no traffic problem, it's a wonder DPM Pawtwit hadn't thought of that ................................

[allseeingi]

and how about that scheme not so many years ago making it super easy and affordable for first car owners to buy a car (in order to try and get rid of surplus to keep FDIs from MNCs pouring in)? action and consequence... action and consequence... it's not that hard of a concept to grasp.

[oscar888]

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 4:19 PM, off road pat said:

You are far way to smart for these people,.....

On the other hand,?.. 5 committees will each have a budget to spend to whatever they can think of .... ???.....and buy new cars....and some influential people could place family members to have a easy job and a state pension !!!

Yes correct to feed the 5 committees is a great achievement and a lot of people will benefit from this budgets. Only the road traffic situation will get worse.