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Hi, fellow motorists,

I am due to renew the  bridgestone original tyres on my hilux vigo size 17in. Anyone found a good outlet with reasonable prices in the Maha Sarakhan area.

 

Wouls appreciate and feed back.

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LAZADA have some good deals  but of course then they have to be fitted   the next choice might be  

larger outlets like   CARBOY/COCKPIT ETC  just ask around  they will all try and sell their only today specials   but buyer beware

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3 hours ago, norbra said:

Some bridgestone tyres are very poor wet weather performers,OK in straight line but give up traction quickly in the wet on braking and cornering

What would be a good tire for wet weather, Toyota Vigo Champ, 2 wheel drive

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I had a Ford Everest 4wd for 7 years and I always used Bridgestone Dueller tyres.

Considering the chassis is basically the same as a truck the road holding in both wet and dry weather was great which is why most of the car firms fit them in the factory as standard.

HL

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Just for interest when I have any tyres fitted the first thing I do is check the pressures and invariably let out at least fifteen psi. Thai people seem to think that you just pump up tyres until they are rock hard, probably to make the steering easier....lol.

Anyway I was just thinking that norbra posted above about his bad road holding and if he hadn't checked his pressures then it could be down to that.

HL

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11 hours ago, happylarry said:

Just for interest when I have any tyres fitted the first thing I do is check the pressures and invariably let out at least fifteen psi. Thai people seem to think that you just pump up tyres until they are rock hard, probably to make the steering easier....lol.

Anyway I was just thinking that norbra posted above about his bad road holding and if he hadn't checked his pressures then it could be down to that.

HL

I made regular checks on  pressures,maintaining 32psi on Isuzu MU7. The tyres were duellers, check bridgestone dueller forums from the US you will see there that they also have similar problems over there

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Maybe Norbra has reputable/convincing sources for his comments. Otherwise it makes no sense to me that Japan's major tyre maker makes tyres that are any less reliable in the wet than those of other major manufacturers in the US and Europe. Only saying that on the basis that there is no state-of-the-art technology involved (assumption by me) and on observations of Japanese manufacturing/design quality generally v world standards.

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I think Bridgestone tires are built for the Thailand consumer. They base the quality of the tire on how many kilometers they get from a set, thus those tires have a harder rubber compound than some others. I base that on the fact the my OEM tires on a Nissan pickup ran for about 90,000 kilometers and still had a lot of tread left. I changed them because they were quite low traction and dangerous on wet roads. I replaced them with a set of Dunlaps and found the traction on wet roads much better. Unfortunately one of the Dunlaps failed. Never had a Bridgestone fail. The worst tires I ever had was a set of OEM Goodyear tires on a Ford Focus. Two of them failed with bulges in the sidewalls in spite of a low amount of kilometers.

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The Japs don't seem to build domestic appliances for the Thai consumer (ie they last a lot better than local build!) but you may be right on tyres Gary.

 

I have run two sets of Duellers on my Fortuner for 90k+ each. One was an irreparable burst at about 50k last year. Haven't noticed any wet road/braking problems (only once detected aquaplaning - it was manageable - in 6½ years), but do drive within road and traffic conditions and the TRD is broad-footed. Not wedded to any manufacturer and I'll probably be replacing the vehicle before I get through my next set of tyres to be bought soon - so maybe I'll give Dunlop a try; believe they are cheaper than the 11,000+ per tyre that the big Bridgestones (Dueller HP 265/60R18) cost me last time*

 

 

*I've been lambasted on ThaiV before for buying tyres at that price by people who say they can get their Vigo Dunlops for 6k, but I assume that is for much narrower tyres and tyre costs go up more than proportionally for wide tyres. The 11k is a 3 year old price - based on buying 4 at a Bangkok discount place. Others in BKK and Isaan were quoting anything between 12- 13k and Toyota dealer a bit over 13k (ie not much discount was offered for 4 by these others)

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Michelin Primacy SUV is the dream of the crop for wet handling and braking. The second tier is good also assuming you use it for daily driving and not heavy or overload, Dunlop, Goodyear, Nexen/Roadstone etc.

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On 10/9/2016 at 3:09 PM, Anon999 said:

Suggest you change the make from expensive Bridgestone tyres to a wide choice of others, do a google search. You'll be able to save a significant amount.

 

  Bridgestones on a pick up are really great. On dry, or wet roads and even in curves, a few more baht for them isn't wasted money.. OP, if I were you, please have a look at the side of the tire, it shows the manufacturing year.

 

         I don't buy two year old tires.  A tire with a DOT code of 1109 was made in the 11th week of 2009.

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On 10/7/2016 at 0:18 PM, SantiSuk said:

The Japs don't seem to build domestic appliances for the Thai consumer (ie they last a lot better than local build!) but you may be right on tyres Gary.

 

I have run two sets of Duellers on my Fortuner for 90k+ each. One was an irreparable burst at about 50k last year. Haven't noticed any wet road/braking problems (only once detected aquaplaning - it was manageable - in 6½ years), but do drive within road and traffic conditions and the TRD is broad-footed. Not wedded to any manufacturer and I'll probably be replacing the vehicle before I get through my next set of tyres to be bought soon - so maybe I'll give Dunlop a try; believe they are cheaper than the 11,000+ per tyre that the big Bridgestones (Dueller HP 265/60R18) cost me last time*

 

 

*I've been lambasted on ThaiV before for buying tyres at that price by people who say they can get their Vigo Dunlops for 6k, but I assume that is for much narrower tyres and tyre costs go up more than proportionally for wide tyres. The 11k is a 3 year old price - based on buying 4 at a Bangkok discount place. Others in BKK and Isaan were quoting anything between 12- 13k and Toyota dealer a bit over 13k (ie not much discount was offered for 4 by these others)

 

My old Nissan pickup odometer always read 5 to 6 kilometers faster than the GPS showed at cruising speed. The Dunlops were one size larger and they made the odometer precisely accurate. They were neither narrower or smaller. They were really not that much cheaper. One thing to consider is road noise. The Dunlops ran very quiet.

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The Japs don't seem to build domestic appliances for the Thai consumer (ie they last a lot better than local build!) but you may be right on tyres Gary.
 
I have run two sets of Duellers on my Fortuner for 90k+ each. One was an irreparable burst at about 50k last year. Haven't noticed any wet road/braking problems (only once detected aquaplaning - it was manageable - in 6½ years), but do drive within road and traffic conditions and the TRD is broad-footed. Not wedded to any manufacturer and I'll probably be replacing the vehicle before I get through my next set of tyres to be bought soon - so maybe I'll give Dunlop a try; believe they are cheaper than the 11,000+ per tyre that the big Bridgestones (Dueller HP 265/60R18) cost me last time*
 
 
*I've been lambasted on ThaiV before for buying tyres at that price by people who say they can get their Vigo Dunlops for 6k, but I assume that is for much narrower tyres and tyre costs go up more than proportionally for wide tyres. The 11k is a 3 year old price - based on buying 4 at a Bangkok discount place. Others in BKK and Isaan were quoting anything between 12- 13k and Toyota dealer a bit over 13k (ie not much discount was offered for 4 by these others)

The bigger the white lettering the better they sell here to the mid life crisis Ferang


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:post-4641-1156693976:

 

A - I'm not aware that Bridgestone (subject of thread) sell white letter tyres

B - I don't see any farang driving white letters in Isaan - this is an Isaan thread, perhaps you live in a more impressionable environment

C - most of the farang in Isaan are not in mid-life and certainly not in crisis 

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On 10/6/2016 at 10:06 PM, happylarry said:

Just for interest when I have any tyres fitted the first thing I do is check the pressures and invariably let out at least fifteen psi. Thai people seem to think that you just pump up tyres until they are rock hard, probably to make the steering easier....lol.

Anyway I was just thinking that norbra posted above about his bad road holding and if he hadn't checked his pressures then it could be down to that.

HL

 

I don't know why they do this either. Both dumb and dangerous.

 

Usually in the door jamb there is a sticker that says what exact tire size and load rating should be, plus what pressure to run in them. Toyota vigo has this for sure, and if its not there, then in the owners manual. 

Blows my mind that the locals don't even look at this. Not only that, but I've seen them not only over inflate the tire, but WAY past the max psi indicated on the tire itself. 

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On 10/7/2016 at 10:02 AM, SantiSuk said:

Maybe Norbra has reputable/convincing sources for his comments. Otherwise it makes no sense to me that Japan's major tyre maker makes tyres that are any less reliable in the wet than those of other major manufacturers in the US and Europe. Only saying that on the basis that there is no state-of-the-art technology involved (assumption by me) and on observations of Japanese manufacturing/design quality generally v world standards.

 

Pretty much. 

 

Bridgestone makes a good tire. Better than most. And we are talking about a pick-up truck tire not a z rated performance tire. 

 

Light bed trucks regardless of tire have never been known to stick to the road in the rain.

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:post-4641-1156693976:
 
A - I'm not aware that Bridgestone (subject of thread) sell white letter tyres
B - I don't see any farang driving white letters in Isaan - this is an Isaan thread, perhaps you live in a more impressionable environment
C - most of the farang in Isaan are not in mid-life and certainly not in crisis 

Have a look at Holliday times when the Ferangs come up there with their lady friends.My chum has Dueler in big white letter Looks OK on his TRD Soi 6 SUV. Mich seem to be most popular with Express Delivery Utes I look when they call just put of interest


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3 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said:

Have a look at Holliday times when the Ferangs come up there with their lady friends.My chum has Dueler in big white letter Looks OK on his TRD Soi 6 SUV. Mich seem to be most popular with Express Delivery Utes I look when they call just put of interest

 

I like white letters out on all terrain tires.

 

If someone doesn't like it, just turn the lettering inward. Not sure what the big deal is.

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1 hour ago, Strange said:

 

I don't know why they do this either. Both dumb and dangerous.

 

Usually in the door jamb there is a sticker that says what exact tire size and load rating should be, plus what pressure to run in them. Toyota vigo has this for sure, and if its not there, then in the owners manual. 

Blows my mind that the locals don't even look at this. Not only that, but I've seen them not only over inflate the tire, but WAY past the max psi indicated on the tire itself. 

 

Thanks for reminding me. I just had my Isuzu serviced and have not checked the tire air pressures. I have my own idea about tire pressure. I keep 35 psi in the front and 30 psi in the back. Most of the weight is on the front of the truck. On the rare occasion that I haul something heavy, I add air to the back tires. I have found that with a lot of air pressure in the back tires, the back end likes to dance on washboard roads. A friend of mine tells me this is a dangerous practice but I disagree with him.

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9 minutes ago, Gary A said:

Thanks for reminding me. I just had my Isuzu serviced and have not checked the tire air pressures. I have my own idea about tire pressure. I keep 35 psi in the front and 30 psi in the back. Most of the weight is on the front of the truck. On the rare occasion that I haul something heavy, I add air to the back tires. I have found that with a lot of air pressure in the back tires, the back end likes to dance on washboard roads. A friend of mine tells me this is a dangerous practice but I disagree with him.

 

I do the same thing but for different reasons, I put about 5psi more in the front of the truck because it steadies the steering better on rutted roads and the steering seems to need less correction to keep it going straight. Usually keep the rear psi at what the manufacturer recommends. I don't add air for hauling weight. 

 

imho nothing wrong playing around with pressure 5-6-7 psi around what the manufacturer recommends if it drives better. 

 

The locals though, they are pretty nuts about pressure. Buddy of mine called me out to look at some "Up sell" stuff a shop was trying on him while he was buying tires. Toyota vigo getting the exact tire the manufacturer recommends. I heard the shop guys talking and agreeing on 55 psi. Blowout waiting to happen. A lot of the locals do this for some dumb reason like they somehow know more than toyota or bridgestone on tire pressure and clearly disregard the max psi indicated on the tire itself. 

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12 minutes ago, Strange said:

 

I do the same thing but for different reasons, I put about 5psi more in the front of the truck because it steadies the steering better on rutted roads and the steering seems to need less correction to keep it going straight. Usually keep the rear psi at what the manufacturer recommends. I don't add air for hauling weight. 

 

imho nothing wrong playing around with pressure 5-6-7 psi around what the manufacturer recommends if it drives better. 

 

The locals though, they are pretty nuts about pressure. Buddy of mine called me out to look at some "Up sell" stuff a shop was trying on him while he was buying tires. Toyota vigo getting the exact tire the manufacturer recommends. I heard the shop guys talking and agreeing on 55 psi. Blowout waiting to happen. A lot of the locals do this for some dumb reason like they somehow know more than toyota or bridgestone on tire pressure and clearly disregard the max psi indicated on the tire itself. 

 

Usually when I haul something, it will be fertilizer or cement and about a thousand kilos. At 30 psi the back tires look quite low so I add air. You have to watch how they load it. The last time I hauled cement, the guy stacked it all on the very back of the bed behind the axle. He wasn't happy when I made him distribute the load.

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3 hours ago, SantiSuk said:

:post-4641-1156693976:

 

A - I'm not aware that Bridgestone (subject of thread) sell white letter tyres

B - I don't see any farang driving white letters in Isaan - this is an Isaan thread, perhaps you live in a more impressionable environment

C - most of the farang in Isaan are not in mid-life and certainly not in crisis 

 

 Some wise words, indeed.....:post-4641-1156694572: Thumbs up !!!

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20 minutes ago, Gary A said:

Usually when I haul something, it will be fertilizer or cement and about a thousand kilos. At 30 psi the back tires look quite low so I add air. You have to watch how they load it. The last time I hauled cement, the guy stacked it all on the very back of the bed behind the axle. He wasn't happy when I made him distribute the load.

 

Is the steering pretty loose when you haul 1 ton in the bed like that? Do you still have a decent amount of rear suspension travel?

 

Last time I had something heavy was a load of smart board and when they finished loading it, the frame was sitting on the rear axle. Had to make 2 trips. 

 

I just worry about increasing the tire pressure when its under full load because the pressure is already increased by the load itself. 

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1 hour ago, Strange said:

 

Is the steering pretty loose when you haul 1 ton in the bed like that? Do you still have a decent amount of rear suspension travel?

 

Last time I had something heavy was a load of smart board and when they finished loading it, the frame was sitting on the rear axle. Had to make 2 trips. 

 

I just worry about increasing the tire pressure when its under full load because the pressure is already increased by the load itself. 

 

I don't know if the steering is loose but I expect it would be. The front end is raised considerably. I would not drive it that way to find out. I have an air compressor at home and add pressure before it gets loaded. Up to about 40 psi. Actually I have never checked the pressure with a load on it.

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16 minutes ago, Gary A said:

I checked the pressure in my Isuzu tires after the service. They left the front at 35 psi but had 45 psi in the rear tires.

 

Whats the max psi for the tire written on the sidewall? I bet its over the max. Whats the manufacturer recommend?

 

Seriously decreases the life of the tire running like this. If it makes it through a lifespan without blowing out or getting a sidewall bulge, likely going to have a rapid wear section in the center. 

 

Max Pressure on the sidewall of a truck tire is usually max pressure under load. Manufacturer recommends 32-35 and max pressure is 44 according to the load rating of the tire on the sidewall for example.

 

Id check the pressure in the tire when you have a load in it without adding air to make sure you are within capacity of the tire. 

 

Still don't know why they do this though. I asked before and all I got was smiles and "Vely good" :rolleyes:

 

 

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