webfact Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hawaii trip: Thai Airways wants internet prosecuted over leaked passenger list By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter - An undated file photo of Prawit Wongsuwan and his entourage in Hawaii. Image: Matichon BANGKOK — Police on Friday were deliberating a request from Thai Airways to prosecute those on social media who spread what was purported to be a leaked passenger list of the government’s now-controversial trip to Hawaii last week. Without saying whether the list was real, airline lawyer Pramuk Wilaiwong asked police Thursday to file charges against Facebook pages that shared the document under the Computer Crime Act, a draconian law that bans any online material deemed damaging to the reputation of an individual or organization. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/10/07/hawaii-trip-thai-airways-wants-internet-prosecuted-leaked-passenger-list/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-10-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just 2 glasses of wine and 1 glass of water? That must've been a zero-dollar tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 We have to get smart with the cyber and ask Bill Gates to shut down the internet! They must be <Deleted!> kidding me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 the Thai people have a right to know who was on the flight and what their money was paying for , full transparency is the only way to put this storey to bed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 22 minutes ago, webfact said: Police on Friday were deliberating a request from Thai Airways to prosecute those on social media who spread what was purported to be a leaked passenger list of the government’s now-controversial trip to Hawaii last week. Yeah right, Thai Airways are pushing for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 "... deemed damaging to the reputation of an individual or organization. " What organization? Thai Airways? Or the merry band of Hawaii- travelers? I thought, everything's squeaky clean about this? How can it damage anyone's reputation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) "...deemed damaging to the reputation of an individual or organization." If there are no laws being broken, or anything that could be considered unethical, where is the damage? Edited October 7, 2016 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 sue them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Anyway they all look like they are in holiday mode and ready to bunker down and enjoy themselves. Love to see a comparison photo of what they all looked like around midnight. A wide angle lens would be needed to include all those accompanying "extras" in attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 who's the blonde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 21 million including 600,000 baht just on food, seems just a tad outlandish, one has to wonder why so many had to attend and why civilians were included as well as why so many underling officers. Definitely ranks up there with a jaunt for the boys(and girls) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I reckon the tax-payer also footed the bill for those Hawaiian shirts....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Full transparency Looking at the photo they all look to be well fed. More snouts in the trough. The Thai airways lawyer is only helping to make this whole situation farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 31 minutes ago, jaltsc said: "...deemed damaging to the reputation of an individual or organization." If there are no laws being broken, or anything that could be considered unethical, where is the damage? have seen many times in thailand defamation can be bought against people even when the allegations are true. like the article says it is a draconian law. useful for the rich and corrupt to keep their crimes from becoming public knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 25 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: who's the blonde? The bleached Thai equivalent of Marilyn Monroe. Blondes can often be attracted to men in high office..... and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 they were going to a hukilau where the laulau is the kaukau at the big luau (thainee bubbles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 54 minutes ago, seajae said: 21 million including 600,000 baht just on food, seems just a tad outlandish, one has to wonder why so many had to attend and why civilians were included as well as why so many underling officers. Definitely ranks up there with a jaunt for the boys(and girls) Fluffers groomers and gofers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 14 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: they were going to a hukilau where the laulau is the kaukau at the big luau (thainee bubbles) Move over Frank DeLima! Az one good poem, bruddah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 36 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: have seen many times in thailand defamation can be bought against people even when the allegations are true. like the article says it is a draconian law. useful for the rich and corrupt to keep their crimes from becoming public knowledge. Yes, but his point was that if no laws are broken, how could it possibly be damaging? Of course, TiT so damages can always be proven but assuming that actual logic is used, if I reported that williamgeorgeallen ate at McDonalds with friends, how is that illegal since no crime was committed? If they took the trip and everything was on the up and up, who would that be damaging to? But many Thais who feel they are above being questioned have a bad habit of not really understanding the difference between the law and public perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Typical Thai reaction to being caught. We have seen it nearly every time someone exposes their criminal, unethical or immoral behaviour. Yes. Unbelievable. Instead of hanging their heads in shame (as if!) and facing up to the consequences - they go after the person or people who have exposed their alleged wrongdoing. Blame and castigate the messenger - never the crime or the criminal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just now, Eligius said: Yes. Unbelievable. Instead of hanging their heads in shame (as if!) and facing up to the consequences - they go after the person or people who have exposed their alleged wrongdoing. Blame and castigate the messenger - never the crime or the criminal! The best form of defence is attack and even better when you know the cards are all stacked in your favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just now, NongKhaiKid said: The best form of defence is attack and even better when you know the cards are all stacked in your favour. Right. And isn't this the tactic of bullies all over the world - when they know they are untouchable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 "...an event described as “ASEAN-US Defense Informal Meeting.” Yeah, right. No wonder they're all dressed in "informal camouflage". And it all started with humble one-man rations in-flight costing a whopping 600,000 Baht for 43 passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 20 minutes ago, MZurf said: Strange how the junta supporters are completely absent from these kinds of threads..... seriously, are there any left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobin Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 deem [deem] Spell Syllables Synonyms Examples Word Origin See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com verb (used without object) 1. to form or have an opinion; judge; think: He did not deem lightly of the issue. verb (used with object) 2. to hold as an opinion; think; regard: He deemed it wise to refuse the offer. We can see that only opinions and judgements are relevant in these cases, not fact of any kind. Since the govt controls the judgement makers (the judges), case closed and the party is GUILTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 2 hours ago, webfact said: the Computer Crime Act, a draconian law brought to you by the 2006 Junta, ... reinforced by the 2014 Junta, ... used by the powerful to hide their sins, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: seriously, are there any left? Sadly, there are still such people around. I've had rich Westerners tell me to my face that things are much better now in Thailand (for their business), and that democracy here in Thailand does not matter - it is 'just a word'. What can one say?! The phrase, 'I'm all right, Jack', springs to mind. Utterly disgusting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Eligius said: Sadly, there are still such people around. I've had rich Westerners tell me to my face that things are much better now in Thailand (for their business), and that democracy here in Thailand does not matter - it is 'just a word'. What can one say?! The phrase, 'I'm all right, Jack', springs to mind. Utterly disgusting! They're almost as bad, in my books, as those posters who bleat "Thai-bashers!!!1!" whenever one dares criticise the government, military, police, elite, because their overtly corrupt incompetence isn't affecting them personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 ...duhh...originating from.....??? ...gotta wonder who their friends are and what their intentions were.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 12 minutes ago, Eligius said: Sadly, there are still such people around. I've had rich Westerners tell me to my face that things are much better now in Thailand (for their business), and that democracy here in Thailand does not matter - it is 'just a word'. What can one say?! The phrase, 'I'm all right, Jack', springs to mind. Utterly disgusting! actually things have been ok for my business this year but surely people can see where the current style of a one party government is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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