Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, bodymassagemyfriend said: Guess what , the Police will probably also search dark skinned Thais ( the poors ) not the rich ( Super white skin ) so in the end it does not change much Still doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said: Precisely my point. They come here for an easy source of income. Take that away and they'll go somewhere else. They won't look for another easy source of income here. By the way it's "hissy" not "hizzy" (or even "jizzy") You think they will just get on a plane and go home? You don't think they will just move on to other scams and rackets? I also don't consider it a win if they just get pushed into Cambodia. There are a whole host of reasons that deporting criminals has to happen regardless of their income sources. Why would you not want these people to be deported? Edited October 8, 2016 by anotheruser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ronuk said: Is it really? When was the last time a white man or a family going on holiday attempted to bring an airliner down? Fact is the western security forces would love to use profiling in order to make the world a safer place but are stopped from doing so by the bleeding heart, yellow livered liberals that run society. No. They are stopped because it is stupid and inefficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 13 minutes ago, gdgbb said: So you keep saying but it's neither if it works. That's the point. It doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieK Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Bluespunk said: Skin colour matters only to the prejudiced. prejudice is a natural human attitude, It makes the inferior feel superior! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 15 minutes ago, RickBradford said: Your relentless virtue signalling is getting very tiresome. The Bangkok police know for a fact that many of the Africans hanging around the Nana area are into the drugs trade and other forms of malfeasance, at a much higher rate than other ethnicities. They got a 20% success rate of those they checked, which is very high for a random sweep of the streets. If they did it again tonight, they'd get 20% once more. It's called the real world, somewhere you should make a note to visit one of these days. No. It's called racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, mcfish said: What skin color are 90% of terrorists? As law enforcement eg CIA With limited resources, you can't track everyone would you be looking for blue eyed blondes and Christians the same way as Muslims? Use your brain dude Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Perhaps you should take your own advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbourg Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ronuk said: Is it really? When was the last time a white man or a family going on holiday attempted to bring an airliner down? Decent white guy Breivik killed most people on some island. Decent white man owed multinationals have directly and indirectly killed the equivalent of 10.000 airliners in the last 25 years. Same same but different. U still dont get it do u? Read chomski... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 18 minutes ago, gdgbb said: I'm afraid, objectively, you're wrong there, again. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, anotheruser said: You think they will just get on a plane and go home? You don't think they will just move on to other scams and rackets? There's no evidence one way or the other, but on the balance of probabilities they'll head off since drug dealing is a high value, low effort, no skills proposition. Protection rackets and prostitution are the next two in the hierarchy of criminal activity but I think the Thais and the Japanese mafia between them have those two fairly tightly sewn up. Internet scams don't require a local presence, but a much higher level of skills or investment. Unless you believe there's some way of completely eliminating criminal behaviour that no-one in human history has yet come across, the two best alternatives are decriminalisation or, more drastically, capital punishment for all offenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttthailand Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 So I guess when the Thai police shut down a bar on walking street in Pattaya and test all the farang that that is racist too ? Or is it that the bar is full of white farang who just happen to be in the area. Stop pulling the race card every time you don't like something. Many white people are sick and tired of it and it does not help the cause it only creates more hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbourg Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I dont like drug dealers. I dont like cops. I dont like rightwingers. I dont like leftwing happy harries. I feel sooooo confused now. Off feeding the ducks. I like those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, SaintLouisBlues said: There's no evidence one way or the other, but on the balance of probabilities they'll head off since drug dealing is a high value, low effort, no skills proposition. Protection rackets and prostitution are the next two in the hierarchy of criminal activity but I think the Thais and the Japanese mafia between them have those two fairly tightly sewn up. Internet scams don't require a local presence, but a much higher level of skills or investment. Unless you believe there's some way of completely eliminating criminal behaviour that no-one in human history has yet come across, the two best alternatives are decriminalisation or, more drastically, capital punishment for all offenders Or they move on to robberies, ATM skimming, pickpocketing, and all the other scams they currently do. You have to understand they come from very desperate countries and circumstances. They are not going to willingly get on a plane back to Zimbabwe or South Sudan. So answer my question... Is there any down side to deporting people on over stays and known to deal drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Ah, racial profiling. Such an efficient method of policing crime. Bigotry alive and well it seems. you say that like its a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, anotheruser said: I also don't consider it a win if they just get pushed into Cambodia. There are a whole host of reasons that deporting criminals has to happen regardless of their income sources. Why would you not want these people to be deported? So answer my question... Is there any down side to deporting people on over stays and known to deal drugs? What's the difference between deporting them and exporting them, in your mind? You think they'll stay in their own country, once deported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SaintLouisBlues said: What's the difference between deporting them and exporting them, in your mind? You think they'll stay in their own country, once deported? Deported puts them on a blacklist. You can not grasp this concept? Also when somebody is deported they are deported almost always to their country of origin. This makes it much more difficult and expensive for them to come back to a neighboring country. So yes, I would rather see them deported to country of origin rather than simply moving over to Cambodia and setting up shop over night. The other benefit to deportation to country of origin is that local law enforcement then also has a very good opportunity to scrutinize them and check for warrants and criminal matters with in that country. If they have any major warrants it is an excellent time to detain them for any outstanding issues. Edited October 8, 2016 by anotheruser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: No. It's called racism. No, it's called the real world. In an era of globalisation, when s**heads of all description have the means to roam the planet, racial profiling has been proved in practice to work to deter criminals. Take the very visible area of airline security. Guess which airline is routinely named the world's most secure. Answer: El Al. It is noted for its passenger profiling (which certainly includes racial characteristics) and has even been sued by upset passengers who were refused boarding. El Al know it works, the Bangkok police know it works, only you are still on the outer wailing feebly about racism. You've just about worn that toy out now. Edited October 8, 2016 by RickBradford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Considering that Africans must be one of the smallest groups to visit Thailand ( when compared against Europeans and Asians ) they certainly seem to be a large percentage of the foreign prison population. TOP 10 OF FOREIGN NATIONALS IN THAI PRISONS (2009) 1. Myanmar (3,787) 2. Lao (1,994) 3. Cambodia (1,445) 4. Malaysia (325) 5. China (252) 6. Singapore (115) 7. Nigeria (94) 8. Taiwan (91) 9. Vietnam (85) 10. Ghana (65) Not many "Farangs" listed there. Here are the figures for the Farang Prisoners: Europe: 149USA: 47Australia: 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 44 minutes ago, Gainsbourg said: Those ones should have been deported ages ago. Off to some baldosaurus island!! Scum.of.the.earth!!! Exiled to Thailand, I was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, anotheruser said: Deported puts them on a blacklist. You can not grasp this concept? I can grasp it, I don't believe it is as effective as removing their easiest source of income. You appear to be living in a fantasy world where most people are law-abiding conformists like yourself. Go read some foreign newspapers about how many "ordinary" people are scamming supermarket self-service checkouts or filling out mortgage applications with false information or lying on their CVs so they can get a better-paid job. Dealing drugs in Soi 3 is on a behavioral continuum, it's not a binary world of the law-abiding many and the law-breaking few - there's no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, RickBradford said: No, it's called the real world. In an era of globalisation, when <deleted> of all description have the means to roam the planet, racial profiling has been proved in practice to work to deter criminals. Take the very visible area of airline security. Guess which airline is routinely named the world's most secure. Answer: El Al. It is noted for its passenger profiling (which certainly includes racial characteristics) and has even been sued by upset passengers who were refused boarding. El Al know it works, the Bangkok police know it works, only you are still on the outer wailing feebly about racism. You've just about worn that toy out now. Never profile a Super Car owner. He bought it to go Slow. Why do we have so many P.C creeps about these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Yeah well, aren't too many whitey Nigerians out there, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, SaintLouisBlues said: I can grasp it, I don't believe it is as effective as removing their easiest source of income. You appear to be living in a fantasy world where most people are law-abiding conformists like yourself. Go read some foreign newspapers about how many "ordinary" people are scamming supermarket self-service checkouts or filling out mortgage applications with false information or lying on their CVs so they can get a better-paid job. Dealing drugs in Soi 3 is on a behavioral continuum, it's not a binary world of the law-abiding many and the law-breaking few - there's no such thing. If you can't see that deportation is a powerful tool for enforcing the law I don't know what to say to you. Everything I said in my last post is true. I am not saying deportation is the only tool in the tool box. It is one that can be used in conjunction with other options. Deport the ones you catch and try to strangle the others financially to thwart their criminal activities. Just to be clear you don't feel that people that are guilty of drug dealing should be deported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, wombat said: you say that like its a bad thing? Yes. Because it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, anotheruser said: If you can't see that deportation is a powerful tool for enforcing the law I don't know what to say to you. Everything I said in my last post is true. I am not saying deportation is the only tool in the tool box. It is one that can be used in conjunction with other options. Deport the ones you catch and try to strangle the others financially to thwart their criminal activities. Just to be clear you don't feel that people that are guilty of drug dealing should be deported? I believe it is ineffective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, RickBradford said: No, it's called the real world. In an era of globalisation, when s**heads of all description have the means to roam the planet, racial profiling has been proved in practice to work to deter criminals. Take the very visible area of airline security. Guess which airline is routinely named the world's most secure. Answer: El Al. It is noted for its passenger profiling (which certainly includes racial characteristics) and has even been sued by upset passengers who were refused boarding. El Al know it works, the Bangkok police know it works, only you are still on the outer wailing feebly about racism. You've just about worn that toy out now. No. Racial profiling is racism. Stopping people on the basis of their colour is racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcandle Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: No. All racist terms used in hate by foul bigots are equally disgusting. As are those who defend using such terms. Police did a good job in my eyes, I hate being accosted by the Africans in that area, they are always staring at you, and if you make eye contact they are offering you drugs, good riddance I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Bluespunk said: Yes. Because it is... Kind of amazes me how people who take so much offense at the "onerous and xenophobic requirements" of being a foreigner staying in Thailand, don't seem to mind when the attention is focused on some other group. As if it's somehow okay when it's that other group being hassled. (But we contribute so much to the economy so leave us alone.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickBradford Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Bluespunk said: No. Racial profiling is racism. Stopping people on the basis of their colour is racism. I get what you're saying. You hold your feeling about "bad" racism as more important than the proven effectiveness of racial profiling in deterring crime and terrorism. You're not alone in that; many western European politicians are equally foolish. Which is why the people of Europe are turning their backs on their 'leaders' in unprecedented numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: No, it is racist bigotry to use racial profiling to arrest someone. You are in Thailand. Thailand is a racist country. Why bother to mention it. It isn't going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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