Jetstar mulls flight ban for Aussie brawlers returning from Phuket holiday

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Jetstar mulls flight ban for Aussie brawlers returning from Phuket holiday

The Phuket News

 

Police were called to escort a man and a woman off the plane when it landed in Sydney last Wednesday afternoon (Oct 5), after they engaged in a mid-flight brawl.

 

PHUKET: -- Jetstar is considering imposing a flight ban on Australian tourists who engaged in a mid-air brawl while returning home from a holiday in Phuket, while the Australian National Police have confirmed they are investigating the incident.

 

Police were called to escort a 27-year-old man and a 42-year-old woman off the plane when it landed in Sydney last Wednesday afternoon (Oct 5) after the fight allegedly broke out between the two passengers midway through the journey from Phuket to Australia.

 

Finance expert Scott Haywood told Melbourne radio station 3AW he was among a group of passengers who were forced to restrain the pair, reported Australian state news agency ABC News.

 

Mr Haywood said the fight started after the woman reclined her seat back onto the man’s mother, which prompted the man to thump the woman’s chair, and then the argument became physical.

 

Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/jetstar-mulls-flight-ban-for-aussie-brawlers-returning-from-phuket-holiday-59423.php

 

-- © Copyright Phuket News 2016-10-10

[Somebodee]

Australian company banning aussie culture from their services 

 

[eisfeld]

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Craig Ferguson, Consul-General Phuket told The Phuket News, “This comes on the back of the Australian government’s smartraveller campaign encouraging Australians to ‘Stay Classy in the Air’.

 

Well that's a bit sad if something like that is required.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, eisfeld said:

 

Well that's a bit sad if something like that is required.

 

Saw something similar a few years back between Narita and Bangkok,at the seat next to where I was assigned.

 

Passenger in front put his seat right back, meal was being served, passenger next to me could not accept a meal tray because it just would't fit between the tray table and seat in front fully back.

 

Hostess told passenger in he row in front that seats had to be upright during the meal period. Passenger in front refused to put his seat upright claiming that he had, on boarding, indicated he did not want any meal service.

 

A nasty argument between the passengers ensued until the supervisor whispered to the passenger beside me that she could move to business class. 

 

On landing in Bangkok the police came on board and detained the passenger who insisted he would not put his seat up.

[maoro2013]

11 hours ago, Somebodee said:

Australian company banning aussie culture from their services 

 

You're joking I hope, and if not you know little about Aussies.

[Sphere]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

Finance expert Scott Haywood told Melbourne radio station 3AW he was among a group of passengers who were forced to restrain the pair, reported Australian state news agency ABC News.

 

Must've told them about high mortgage interest? That's enough to subdue the wildest brawlers.

[Ace of Pop]

A ripper from Scotty Never yet met a Financial Expert flying Hoon Class.Normally Quaintass Exec.


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[ChrisY1]

46 minutes ago, maoro2013 said:

You're joking I hope, and if not you know little about Aussies.

Maybe Maoro was a little over the top, but this certainly isn't the first incident in-flight by our people....I'm sure most would agree with a ban on these types....

[norbra]

I believe the airlines add to these incidents by allowing the seats to "recline" too much,I seemed to always have problems in Qantas Boeing 767's SYD-MEL-SYD as the leg room was insufficient to prevent my knees being crunched by the seat in front of me,a 1 hour flight with meal and drinks yet pax/prix still need to recline

[Penicillin]

.....and I thought the Chinese had the market on "in flight"  fighting . 

[Penicillin]

32 minutes ago, norbra said:

I believe the airlines add to these incidents by allowing the seats to "recline" too much,I seemed to always have problems in Qantas Boeing 767's SYD-MEL-SYD as the leg room was insufficient to prevent my knees being crunched by the seat in front of me,a 1 hour flight with meal and drinks yet pax/prix still need to recline

Airlines squeezing every inch and dollar out of these seating arrangements certainly don't provide a comfortable environment for the traveler . When fuel costs were higher, the seats got tighter, baggage charges appeared  and ticket prices went up accordingly . 

Somehow , the reverse never took place when fuel dropped and stabilized.  It's a free market economy, but I'm no fan of airlines ethos.  You would think they would at least include a jar of  Vaseline with every ticket sold. 

[Centrum]

19 minutes ago, Penicillin said:

Airlines squeezing every inch and dollar out of these seating arrangements certainly don't provide a comfortable environment for the traveler . When fuel costs were higher, the seats got tighter, baggage charges appeared  and ticket prices went up accordingly . 

Somehow , the reverse never took place when fuel dropped and stabilized.  It's a free market economy, but I'm no fan of airlines ethos.  You would think they would at least include a jar of  Vaseline with every ticket sold. 

Are you suggesting that as fuel prices increase, airlines pull their planes out of service and refit the seating to cram more passengers in?

Bizarre!

[car720]

1 hour ago, ChrisY1 said:

Maybe Maoro was a little over the top, but this certainly isn't the first incident in-flight by our people....I'm sure most would agree with a ban on these types....

 

In Australia the youth are trained by their mothers that 'might makes right' and, 'the best form of defense is offence.'

I recall reading an article about just how many young men are now being raised by single mothers, and learning their attitude, which anyone will tell you is decidedly more vicious than the average male's attitude.

It used to be that if one knocked another down then he would pick them up and buy them a beer but today it is a stiletto through the eye for good measure.

[Penicillin]

12 minutes ago, Centrum said:

Are you suggesting that as fuel prices increase, airlines pull their planes out of service and refit the seating to cram more passengers in?

Bizarre!

Try reading the post ...or better yet , have someone read and explain it to you. 

[somchai jones]

Peasants.........

[Docno]

Maybe it's time to start diverting Australian tourists to China to give them (the Chinese) a taste of their own medicine.

[Baerboxer]

12 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Saw something similar a few years back between Narita and Bangkok,at the seat next to where I was assigned.

 

Passenger in front put his seat right back, meal was being served, passenger next to me could not accept a meal tray because it just would't fit between the tray table and seat in front fully back.

 

Hostess told passenger in he row in front that seats had to be upright during the meal period. Passenger in front refused to put his seat upright claiming that he had, on boarding, indicated he did not want any meal service.

 

A nasty argument between the passengers ensued until the supervisor whispered to the passenger beside me that she could move to business class. 

 

On landing in Bangkok the police came on board and detained the passenger who insisted he would not put his seat up.

 

On a Ethiad flight had same thing next to me. Thai lady in front put her seat right back onto German lady who was still eating and drinking. The German lady thumped the chair and started shouting. The Thai lady only spoke Thai and French and the German only German and little English. 

I managed to calm them. Both were getting very upset.

 

I believe most Airlines do state that seats must be kept fully upright during meal service. Some passengers couldn't give to <deleted> about others and crash them back which inevitably causes aggro. Good flight attendants will politely but firmly reminding passenger who have their seats back when serving. But some think once their meal is over they can do as they please regardless of the person behind. 

Had it happen several times. I normally ask the attendant to remind them as it's neutral; or ask politely. If you are a regular flyer you know which passenger types are prone to this.

[TSF]

Should ban the reclining of seats on all flights except night flights after dinner has been served and cleared away. 

[masuk]

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

On a Ethiad flight had same thing next to me. Thai lady in front put her seat right back onto German lady who was still eating and drinking. The German lady thumped the chair and started shouting. The Thai lady only spoke Thai and French and the German only German and little English. 

I managed to calm them. Both were getting very upset.

 

I believe most Airlines do state that seats must be kept fully upright during meal service. Some passengers couldn't give to <deleted> about others and crash them back which inevitably causes aggro. Good flight attendants will politely but firmly reminding passenger who have their seats back when serving. But some think once their meal is over they can do as they please regardless of the person behind. 

Had it happen several times. I normally ask the attendant to remind them as it's neutral; or ask politely. If you are a regular flyer you know which passenger types are prone to this.

I travel AirAsia from Australia to KUL quite often, and I've NEVER, EVER heard the yarn about seats being upright during meal times.

Yes, it's a squeeze in economy class trying to eat with the seat in front laid back , but it can be done.  Just don't drop anything!

[harleyclarkey]

What's there to mull over...to think about? Ban them.

 

There is little worse than being in the confined space of a plane when a row starts. Nowhere to run....nowhere to avoid the conflict.

 

Nasty....really nasty and very frightening.

[eggers]

It's about time airlines showed some muscle against unruly travellers.

Some years back on London to Australia flight, had an unruly couple seated in front, the woman was ordering Coke & ice & topping up w/ duty free spirit. Became noisy & insulting passengers around her, then started fighting w/ partner. Cabin crew tried to calm her, next went to toilet came back reeking of cigarette smoke. Purser came & tried to calm her & warned her to behave or face actions. When arrived in Melbourne, both charged thru queue to get off , f***ng & blinding at everyone. No Police to greet, next see her sitting in baggage area, puffing away on cigarette. She pushed her way to get case & was happy to assist (nudged) her onto the carousel & walked away!! Wrote to Singapore Airlines, was "aware of problem & action was being taken". Never found out what occurred if anything. 

Apparently, the law is complex as incidents in flight are governed(as recall) by laws of arrival country, so if someone offends at takeoff, cannot be acted against till country of arrival, though believe Captain can act in certain circumstances,  think that's way it works. 

Whatever the laws, hope more airlines take strong action against yobbos & others who are deemed unfit to travel.      

[jackspratt498]

A little common courtesy goes a long way. Whenever I recline on a flight I take a look back at who is sitting behind me and what their deal is space wise. If it's someone who's overweight or if it looks like reclining is going to make the rest of their flight a royal PITA, I just see if I can move to another seat. If I can't, well sorry but it's still going back, but maybe only half way, and this even depends on the length of the flight. If it's a trans-pacific it has to go back at least halfway; if it's CM to BKK, I can stay upright. But I don't just pull the lever and crank it back as far as I can without taking a peek. This also allows the person behind you to realise what you are about to do, regardless of if anything is said regarding the impending invasion of their space. You can even add an apologetic look to your face. Good vibes for things that in actuality suck. Flying sucks. The key is to mitigate this as much as possible with a "we're all in it together" mentality. Courtesy people.

 

And meal service? Leaving it reclined is asking for a big problem. Absolute no-no.

[natway09]

Just stop transporting Ozes.. next

[maoro2013]

8 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Maybe Maoro was a little over the top, but this certainly isn't the first incident in-flight by our people....I'm sure most would agree with a ban on these types....

We all have our superstar tourists, embarrassing for the majority. No problem with banning problem customers.

[beechbum]

2 hours ago, natway09 said:

Just stop transporting Ozes.. next

And you could even learn to spell at the same time!

[Psimbo]

11 hours ago, maoro2013 said:

You're joking I hope, and if not you know little about Aussies.

Oim sawry mite but  budgit er-loyns ettrect budgitt trevelors/ 

[landslide]

I am sorry, but the amount of recline  given in economy is only 3 to 4 inches.  It is really of no benefit for comfort.  I find I sleep just as well with the seat back in the upright position as when it is reclined.  Frankly, I would just as soon they eliminate the recline feature.  On the other hand, some of the aircraft I have flown on have seats in which the seat bottoms slide forward to achieve recline.  I find them to be much less intrusive to the passenger behind than the traditional seats.  The person reclining has less leg room, so it is up to them.

[car720]

19 hours ago, Docno said:

Maybe it's time to start diverting Australian tourists to China to give them (the Chinese) a taste of their own medicine.

 

The Chinese are merely rude and abrupt whilst the youth of Australia today are malicious by nature.

Too much American T.V. methinks. 

[jerojero]

And what does finance expertise have to do with this incident? Mr Haywood seems like a pompous expert, indeed.

[Ace of Pop]

Let em fight ,but keep kids in the hold or gagged,they ruin more fights than the rare Hoon ever has


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