Proposal to create new sub forum in Local forums

[Ron19]

There has been a proposal put forward to create a new sub forum in  " Thailand Local Forums " .

 

This has been done to create a sub forum to cater for 9 provinces that are not attached to any other sub forum.

These  provinces listed below cover a large area though spread out are joined to at least one of the others in an  

area that could be said to be Central or Northern Thailand. They have a combined population of over 6,000,000.

 

Tak

Sukhothai

Uttaradit

Phitsanulok

Phichit

Petchabun

Nakhon Sawan

Kamphaeng - Phet

Uthai Thani

 

The proposal has been made to give members somewhere to post local news or anything they wish to bring up in a

subforum more aligned to where they reside instead of another sub forum as they are now because they don't have

anywhere else to do so.Nothing would change there, you would still be free to post where you wish as you are now.

 

Any comment for or against is most welcome so please post here to let me know your thoughts.

 

 

 

[JAFO]

I support it 100% .  Thailand is large country and shouldn't focus only on BKK, Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Phuket and Isaan.  

 

 

 

 

[daveAustin]

It doesn't, just the majority of people live in those places, but I know what you mean.

[mcfish]

I don't think anybody really cares what happens in those places. A bit blunt I know but it's true

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[chrisinth]

4 minutes ago, mcfish said:

I don't think anybody really cares what happens in those places. A bit blunt I know but it's true

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Except of course if you are living there.

 

Speaking only for Phitsanulok, we would guesstimate (in the province) there must be at least 500 foreigners living here full time, or at least basing themselves here. Through personal experience, it is only a small percentage that you will see out on a regular basis, with lots of cases of people not knowing where to go being the only reason they aren't out joining in.

 

I'm another that would be 100% behind the idea.

[KhunBENQ]

2 hours ago, daveAustin said:

It doesn't, just the majority of people live in those places, but I know what you mean.

 

The majority reflected by number of post by forum:

Pattaya Forum                                    560982
Chiang Mai Forum                             544082
Phuket Forum                                     333283
Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, Koh Tao 165117
Bangkok Forum                                   184961
Isaan Forum                                         118511
Chiang Rai Forum                                 54435
Hua Hin / Cha-Am Forum                    35815
Central Thailand Forum                       17688
Krabi Forum                                           13754
Southern Thailand Forum                    13086
Eastern Thailand Forum                       11092

 

Draw conclusions on your own.

With the large volume of TV this granularity might be OK.

Sometimes I see small forums with the same or more granularity.

Quite laughable when last post is from five months ago

 

[villagefarang]

I am not convinced that further dividing the country into smaller and smaller groups is a good idea considering many of the questions which get asked in the sub forums are general Thailand questions and not specific to a certain area.  

 

If what you want is a more social media type interaction with people in your area, something like FaceBook is probably a better option.  Unless you are going to meet people face to face I am not sure location has much relevance. 

 

We already have so many topic-specific sub forums doing such a good job of covering subject matter, it makes more sense to me to encourage members to better avail themselves of the recourses which already exist.

 

I should perhaps add that I live 50km from Chiang Rai and sometimes wonder if there is a need for our local forum.

[Ron19]

I'm not saying you are wrong in any way but the provinces in question here are not part of any subforum and do have a population of over 6,000,000 with a high number of expats in much of it.

" It's a problem when posting news stories from that region. Often they end up being posted in Chiang Mai or Chiang Rai but that isn't correct ". ( Quote from management)

[JAFO]

To VFs comment. I agree. That many sub forums do dilute and people tend to post general questions in them which shouldn't happen.   The areas mentioned are specific and the content should be specific to that area.  I still support sub forums but also know it will take more moderating effort to sustain which is why it is probably laid out the way it is on TV.  

 

What I have found as I have traveled around is that there are interesting activities to do in all those areas and would be nice to post about it.  Maybe the areas mentioned could all be in 1 sub forum this way to Chrisinths comment there are lots of expats in certain provinces and they could connect if they chose too. I know I live in that region and would contribute 

 

Good luck on the request.

 

 

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, mcfish said:

I don't think anybody really cares what happens in those places. A bit blunt I know but it's true
 

 

Well some do that was the point........

 

1 hour ago, villagefarang said:

I am not convinced that further dividing the country into smaller and smaller groups is a good idea considering many of the questions which get asked in the sub forums are general Thailand questions and not specific to a certain area.  

 

I should perhaps add that I live 50km from Chiang Rai and sometimes wonder if there is a need for our local forum.

 

Many people seem to miss the point it is not dividing,  my take is the fact Thaivisa has a forum line up mentioning cities and 1 of the most important is not listed and some others,  which ever one it's listed in l couldn't give a toss but whether or not it make's more of a sense to have a Northern Forum instead I dunno but  to go e.g. " Central Thailand Forum "  then " Chiangmai Forum " seems daft to me.

[villagefarang]

As for the six million Thais living in the areas mentioned, I doubt many of them read TVF.  The relatively few foreigners in the area are probably spread over a very wide area and are made up of many nationalities and languages.

 

Instead of creating more sub forums which would be little used, would it be possible to improve the search function to look for items relevant to a town or region?  When news items are properly labeled I find it easy to catch anything to do with Chiang Rai but worry that anything dropped into the Chiang Rai forum will be hidden from the view of most TVF readers.

 

Another thing which comes up in forums like Chiang Rai is the typical tourist type question.  Longterm residents of an area are not always great sources of up to date tourist information.  We have homes, transportation and established networks which have nothing to do with cheap short term accommodation or transportation.  Those kinds of questions are better handled in a tourist oriented sub forum.

[Ron19]

I have access to some figures that point to it being a viable proposition compared to some of the existing local forums. I am also of the opinion that if it's managed and promoted correctly that it will be successful in the long term. It is my intention to do exactly that.

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[Ace of Pop]

Not an easy one, i lived up there for years,so i click on Uditt, Suko and Phitts, Ubon Rat, Suphanburi and other areas ive lived just to see whats happening. I tend to lean Villageferang way.

[akirasan]

I support the idea with the view that it may provide better search results for people using google 

[Ron19]

7 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said:

Not an easy one, i lived up there for years,so i click on Uditt, Suko and Phitts, Ubon Rat, Suphanburi and other areas ive lived just to see whats happening. I tend to lean Villageferang way.

There is no where you can click on these three in Uditt, Suko and Phitts, in the local forums

unless some are posting elsewhere because they have no option.

This is the whole point with the others I've mentioned as well.

[Kan Win]

My thinking is that ALL Provinces of Thailand should be mentioned, as this is Thai Visa Dot Com and some should be clubbed together like both Chiang's Mai and Rai to make room for the other forum which has been proposed.

 

Win  

[villagefarang]

If you want a case study in how things can go horribly wrong on a sub forum, try searching the moderator’s archives for the debacle about four years back on the Chiang Rai forum.

 

With something like 76 or 77 provinces I am not sure ALL can be mentioned.

[Ron19]

2 minutes ago, Kan Win said:

My thinking is that ALL Provinces of Thailand should be mentioned, as this is Thai Visa Dot Com and some should be clubbed together like both Chiang's Mai and Rai to make room for the other forum which has been proposed.

 

Win  

There are others that could be amalgamated but I'm not saying that should happen. I don't think it is a matter of room more like others have differing opinions and are suggesting that it wouldn't be a viable proposition. I don't see it that way.

[rott]

Don't see what's wrong with it the way it is but do not really have any strong feelings on the matter.

 

I don't follow how the change will bring more people on the forum but the proof of the pudding etc

[Ron19]

1 minute ago, rott said:

Don't see what's wrong with it the way it is but do not really have any strong feelings on the matter.

 

I don't follow how the change will bring more people on the forum but the proof of the pudding etc

There is a whole group in the 9 provinces that are missing out unless they are posting elsewhere but could be better provided for if this was given the go ahead. As I have said before, I would take it on myself to make sure this would be a success not a failure.

[rott]

  I begin to get your drift chief.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, villagefarang said:

Instead of creating more sub forums which would be little used, would it be possible to improve the search function to look for items relevant to a town or region?  When news items are properly labeled I find it easy to catch anything to do with Chiang Rai but worry that anything dropped into the Chiang Rai forum will be hidden from the view of most TVF readers.

 

Another thing which comes up in forums like Chiang Rai is the typical tourist type question.  Longterm residents of an area are not always great sources of up to date tourist information.  We have homes, transportation and established networks which have nothing to do with cheap short term accommodation or transportation.  Those kinds of questions are better handled in a tourist oriented sub forum.

 

Disagree  people see ChiangRai in a forum of it's own, it has a place in history along with ChiangMai OK but why not stick em in Northern Forum.

One more sub forum stating Northern or Lower Northern is hardly a big creation just a bit of adjusted informed info. 

[KhunBENQ]

4 hours ago, Ron19 said:

What forum are you referring to when you say the last post was five months ago ?

Not Thaivisa of course.

Otherwise it should not be what German language regional forum that was.

There are so many dead horses out in the internet.

 

[villagefarang]

I am surely in the minority but I wouldn’t mind having a Northern Forum.  The more division one has the more competition and friction results.  For example our village was divided into two parts so they could have two budgets and two of everything.  As a result neighbors who live meters apart but it different Moos sometimes come to blows on sports days or at other competitive events.

 

It would be great if Northerners could view each other as part of the same group instead of as separate tribes.  As I said, however, I doubt anyone would agree with me.

[Aussie69]

My god people ... it's simply sub forums, you will not be forced to visit/read/participate in them. The level of negative petty nit-picking on topics which in the big scheme of things are not really that important, or relative to those complaining, absolutely has me shaking my head.

[villagefarang]

Perhaps we are not commenting on the same Topic.  This one said,  "Any comment for or against is most welcome so please post here to let me know your thoughts."  It did not say only post a comment if you agree.

[Ace of Pop]

My Forum area Krabi could close. Most exiting reads this year are Person Bathes in Pothole ,  Chinese Tourist left a Tip, and Jelly Fish spotted on Beach. 

[Ron19]

You're a go getter, can't you get up and give it a lift.

[n210mp]

I have just voted (as if my opinion really matters to the management of TVF) Ha ha ha

 

However I do think that most of the posters (Both for and against) have missed the point.

 

What maybe be going on in Bangkok whilst  living in Pattaya  doesn't interest me one hoot becasue I have no relevance to Bangkok not knowing many people there  and  being completely  disinterested in Cities doesn't  help either but we are not talking about Bangkok or cities anyway and therein is the difference  

 

Same for ChangMai/Rai but my personal choices are not what we are discussing here.

 

If there is even a small  a demand for a sub forum in these areas,  then why not at least give it a chance, the associated costs in setting up such a forum cannot be too high a cost for making what could be a very successful sub forum.

 

 The Sales team here at TVF,  AKA as the management  here would IMH and  no doubt in these very bad business day be chomping at the bit in attempting to attract/ make more contributors and ergo more income derived from "Hits"  to the very  recently (abnormally no doubt) but very "quiet" Thai Visa forum.

 

Lastly I have family members and many friends in some of those areas mentioned and no doubt would be calling in for a look if not becoming maybe a  regular subscriber in the suggested forums .

[Travel2003]

First, why would anyone be against something he/she will not even participate in?

 

Then, I guess Khon Kaen is too small?  The local KKC Forums are just a few silly old men sharing naked photos with each other, and talking down to anyone new trying to add comments.