WaffleIron Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Hi peeps, It's a bit of a long story, so I'll just give you the short version: 2 years ago, I suffered a back injury which cost me a ton of cash (I had Thai medical insurance, but back issues were a preexisting condition). Due to that injury, I fell into a deep depression and spent the next two years staying in my apartment 99% of the time (some sort of agoraphobia thing, I guess). Due to the financial and health issues, I let my visa slip and ended up on overstay. My back and depression issues being now over, I decided to take care of my overstay. Last month, I left Thailand via Don Muang and received a 3-year entry ban due to my 700+ days overstay. I now live in Vietnam. Does anyone know if it is possible to appeal an entry ban from abroad, and if so, how? I mean, I can wait out the three years if needed, but if there's just a chance for me to be allowed back into Thailand, where my friends are, I'd sure like to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It is possible to appeal the ban. You would have to hire a lawyer to do it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 Count your blessings it is only 3 years. Many people are permanently banned. Save yourself the stress, the cost and the aggravation and just live your life in Vietnam for 3 years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fithman Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 You will need a Thai lawyer to assist you with an appeal. The process may prove to be expensive with no guarantee of a positive outcome. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 52 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Count your blessings it is only 3 years. Many people are permanently banned. Save yourself the stress, the cost and the aggravation and just live your life in Vietnam for 3 years. Why would he count his blessings? He received the correct ban in accordance with the rules OP unless you hire one of the more reputable International law firms in BKK which is going to be expensive then I wouldn't bother, a lot of Thai Lawyers will simply take you for what they can with no guarantee of success I would be devastated if like you I was banned for 3 years but maybe just better to see it out Good luck with whatever you decide to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 8 hours ago, Fithman said: You will need a Thai lawyer to assist you with an appeal. The process may prove to be expensive with no guarantee of a positive outcome. Bet the "lawyer" guarantees a positive though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Actually evidence of such severe mental illness could be grounds to refuse you entry whether you are banned or not. I am not sure this is a great idea to make immigration aware of your mental health history in this regards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I think an appeal of a ban for an overstay would stand a good chance of being approved since it is based upon a ministers order and is not based upon any law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotheruser Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I am guessing if some money changes hands that this being Thailand anything is possible. All I am saying is be careful about saying your mental health is less than stable. You tell immigration from any civilized country in the world this and you may find yourself refused on that basis.They may want proof that you were successfully treated etc. So it could backfire very badly if he plays this card. Again it is Thailand so hard to say. In any case only a lawyer would be able to help him determine what his options are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wprime Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Yes it's possible to appeal, it all depends on your budget. You can get away with quite a lot as long as you fit the criteria of what their ideal tourist is. Edited October 20, 2016 by wprime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Contact TV member "Visarunner"he may be able to help you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, darrendsd said: Why would he count his blessings? He received the correct ban in accordance with the rules OP unless you hire one of the more reputable International law firms in BKK which is going to be expensive then I wouldn't bother, a lot of Thai Lawyers will simply take you for what they can with no guarantee of success I would be devastated if like you I was banned for 3 years but maybe just better to see it out Good luck with whatever you decide to do i do realize it is hard to keep up, but his blessings are that it is not a permanent ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 41 minutes ago, HooHaa said: i do realize it is hard to keep up, but his blessings are that it is not a permanent ban. No it's not hard for me to keep up but it seems it is for you I will explain it a little clearer for you just so you understand The OP states that he had a 700+ day overstay, that is approx 2 years The rules state that anything over a year but under 3 years results in a 3 year ban, this is what the OP received So why should he count his blessings when he received exactly what the rules state? Just so you can keep up a bit more there is no permanent ban stated for overstay Hope this helps you "keep up" get someone to read the overstay rules and punishments for you if you are having difficulty understanding them yourself 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 you are being exquisitely obtuse. i will leave you to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 51 minutes ago, HooHaa said: you are being exquisitely obtuse. i will leave you to it. No I am pointing out that there is no permanent ban listed for overstay so how can the OP count his blessings for not receiving something that doesn't exist according to the overstay rules? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goanna Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 51 minutes ago, HooHaa said: you are being exquisitely obtuse. i will leave you to it. TV have many of these nasty people. Such is life bud. Best to ignore the crap, but it keeps popping up. Leave him to it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, Goanna said: TV have many of these nasty people. Such is life bud. Best to ignore the crap, but it keeps popping up. Leave him to it. Not nasty just pointing out facts, facts is a word a lot of people on this forum seem unable to understand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, darrendsd said: Not nasty just pointing out facts, facts is a word a lot of people on this forum seem unable to understand I agree. The OP received no "blessing". He was given a ban exactly in accordance with current rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 5 hours ago, darrendsd said: Why would he count his blessings? He received the correct ban in accordance with the rules OP unless you hire one of the more reputable International law firms in BKK which is going to be expensive then I wouldn't bother, a lot of Thai Lawyers will simply take you for what they can with no guarantee of success I would be devastated if like you I was banned for 3 years but maybe just better to see it out Good luck with whatever you decide to do " a lot of Thai Lawyers will simply take you for what they can with no guarantee of success " You have no way of knowing what "a lot of Thai lawyers" would do. Simply your bigotry at play. In any event, what lawyer would ever guarantee a result when appealing the consequences of breaking a law? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Suradit69 said: " a lot of Thai Lawyers will simply take you for what they can with no guarantee of success " You have no way of knowing what "a lot of Thai lawyers" would do. Simply your bigotry at play. In any event, what lawyer would ever guarantee a result when appealing the consequences of breaking a law? Have you lived here long? Also note I said there would be no guarantee of success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, darrendsd said: Have you lived here long? Also note I said there would be no guarantee of success I've lived here long enough to have used the services of two different Thai lawyers on a number of occasions, though not for criminal issues. They clearly stated upfront what the charges would be for the service I sought and they delivered exactly what I wanted. I would not blithely assume that they represented "most Thai lawyers" since neither you nor I have dealt with even a small percentage of all Thai lawyers. Have you used "most Thai lawyers" and been ripped off by most of them or do you simply buy into the Thai = bad philosophy here at TV? Quote Also note I said there would be no guarantee of success Then you meant there would be no certainty of success. The word "guarantee" implies more than some statistical likelihood that an outcome will be realized. Quote guar·an·tee ˌɡerənˈtē/ noun 1. a formal promise or assurance (typically in writing) that certain conditions will be fulfilled, especially that a product will be repaired or replaced if not of a specified quality and durability. verb 1. provide a formal assurance or promise, especially that certain conditions shall be fulfilled relating to a product, service, or transaction. "the con artist guarantees that the dirt pile will yield at least 20 ounces of gold" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrendsd Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Suradit69 said: I've lived here long enough to have used the services of two different Thai lawyers on a number of occasions, though not for criminal issues. They clearly stated upfront what the charges would be for the service I sought and they delivered exactly what I wanted. I would not blithely assume that they represented "most Thai lawyers" since neither you nor I have dealt with even a small percentage of all Thai lawyers. Have you used "most Thai lawyers" and been ripped off by most of them or do you simply buy into the Thai = bad philosophy here at TV? Then you meant there would be no certainty of success. The word "guarantee" implies more than some statistical likelihood that an outcome will be realized. 1 : No I don't buy into the Thai = bad philosophy but it would appear that you read my post as that. do I care? Not really 2 : I said most, in case you are unsure most does not mean all, I suggest you use your dictionary again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autonuaq Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Save the trouble and stress reduce you joy of life and short it for sure. You overstayed and just got 3 years ban feel blessed with that. Why all the problems? The Thai decide they not want you as well not want your money the next 3 years. save the cost, save the stress, enjoy life, and probably after three years you not want to come back at all. just for a quick visit to see how good you have it at the place you are now. you ever thought about this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Goanna said: TV have many of these nasty people. Such is life bud. Best to ignore the crap, but it keeps popping up. Leave him to it. Nothing worse than giving the right info onTVF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 If this happened to me,i would take the opportunity to make new friends in Vietnam and flit back and forth between the 2.Just got back and will be visiting a lot more on the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 You now I have been here for 15 years had some medical problems I dealt with that landed me in hospital but I have never overstayed or expired a visa I really have no sympathy for your 2 year overstay You are banned You are in Vietnam now at least for the next 3 years so MAKE sure you keep your visa in good order there. Suck it up Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Autonuaq said: Save the trouble and stress reduce you joy of life and short it for sure. You overstayed and just got 3 years ban feel blessed with that. Why all the problems? The Thai decide they not want you as well not want your money the next 3 years. save the cost, save the stress, enjoy life, and probably after three years you not want to come back at all. just for a quick visit to see how good you have it at the place you are now. you ever thought about this? What lose of money would there be,he was bailed up in a room for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, realenglish1 said: You now I have been here for 15 years had some medical problems I dealt with that landed me in hospital but I have never overstayed or expired a visa I really have no sympathy for your 2 year overstay You are banned You are in Vietnam now at least for the next 3 years so MAKE sure you keep your visa in good order there. Suck it up Dude I think mental issues such as depression should be treated with a bit more emathy.I have heard thait is a struggle just to get out of bed,ala Brian Wilson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olebare Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm thinking "for 100k mista we can appeal this, we can win for sure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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