snoop1130 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 'Inappropriate' guys who gave free hugs to mourners kicked out by police By Coconuts Bangkok Photo: Teerawat Pinpanichakarn Three Thai men who gave free hugs to mourners at Sanam Luang on Sunday were escorted by police as a hundred thousand Thais gathered to pay respect to the late King Bhumibol Adulyadej. Teerawat Pinpanichakarn, one of the free huggers, said that he and and his friends were detained by police and questioned after they stood at Sanam Luang with the signs that read: "We want Thai people to love each other. Free hugs." It was not clear if the free huggers were charged for giving free hugs, but the drama escalated online. Full Story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/10/25/inappropriate-guys-who-gave-free-hugs-mourners-kicked-out-police -- © Copyright Coconuts Bangkok 2016-10-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 The mourning-police in full effect: be sad, the way we want you to...or else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Reminds me of the scene in Wedding Crashers movie. I'd post a clip but another taboo subject stops me from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Khaosod reported that the chief propagandist Sansern dismissed the behavior as un-Thai. Quote “Is the activity appropriate to our glorious Thai culture and the current mourning period?” Lt. Gen. Sansern said. “Instead of offering free hugs, youths should hold other, more appropriate activities.” Notice he didn't say this about gangs of violent vigilantes harassing and assaulting people who seemed insufficiently sad... Indeed, on 18 October, Justice Minister Paiboon Kumchaya was asked by the media for his opinion about the vigilante attack against a soy milk seller in Phuket accused of lèse majesté that occurred three days earlier - the Minister replied nothing is better than vigilantism and also encouraged Thais in other countries to do the same with lèse majesté offenders living abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I had hoped that this news was cooked up by the Onion... There is no such thing as a permanent, unchanging or single culture. A countries 'culture' is a melting pot of millions of individuals. You may may make some simplified generalisations about a culture but those will remain what they are: simplistic generalisations that won't apply to the individual or quite possible even to the majority of people. But then again, some people seem to try and dictate or drill people into thinking there is actual a single way to be a true citizen... Nothing wrong with free hugs. If that is how some people wish to mourn, remember or handle their emotion, that is perfectly fine in my book. If culture was unchangable and came in one flavour... Thailand (and all other nations) wouldn't be the country that it is today. They'd all still be walking in cloths made of vegatation or animal skin hold together by some rope... Edited October 25, 2016 by Donutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, jamesbrock said: Khaosod reported that the chief propagandist Sansern dismissed the behavior as un-Thai. Notice he didn't say this about gangs of violent vigilantes harassing and assaulting people who seemed insufficiently sad... Indeed, on 18 October, Justice Minister Paiboon Kumchaya was asked by the media for his opinion about the vigilante attack against a soy milk seller in Phuket accused of lèse majesté that occurred three days earlier - the Minister replied nothing is better than vigilantism and also encouraged Thais in other countries to do the same with lèse majesté offenders living abroad. If Thais living abroad get involved in vigilantism they might find the defence of violence in connection with mourning won't go very far. Edited October 25, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Where the heck is this nation going! These guys are obviously paid by some mysterious person to push non-Thai ideas and destroy our Thainess. Offering 'Free Wais' would be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Three 'happy clappy, tree hugging guys. you couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Too right! These people are just weird and should be charged for touching people inappropriately. It's nothing to do with mourning and everything to do with their desire to feel empowered by touching people... or a precursor to pick-pocketing. Any one of these weirdos, whatever nationality, tries it one with me is going to get a knee in the taters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Donutz said: Nothing wrong with free hugs. If that is how some people wish to mourn, remember or handle their emotion, that is perfectly fine in my book. Well it's completely wrong in mine and goes against the grain here, too. If they want to feel glad all over, let them do it to each other, but for others, suggest they offer a respectful wai. This is the kind of Western import we don't need here, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Thainess Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Donutz said: I had hoped that this news was cooked up by the Onion... There is no such thing as a permanent, unchanging or single culture. A countries 'culture' is a melting pot of millions of individuals. You may may make some simplified generalisations about a culture but those will remain what they are: simplistic generalisations that won't apply to the individual or quite possible even to the majority of people. But then again, some people seem to try and dictate or drill people into thinking there is actual a single way to be a true citizen... Nothing wrong with free hugs. If that is how some people wish to mourn, remember or handle their emotion, that is perfectly fine in my book. If culture was unchangable and came in one flavour... Thailand (and all other nations) wouldn't be the country that it is today. They'd all still be walking in cloths made of vegatation or animal skin hold together by some rope... Excellent points. What we have here are micro-fascisms which are already holding the country back, now being amplified by the present circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, daveAustin said: Too right! These people are just weird and should be charged for touching people inappropriately. It's nothing to do with mourning and everything to do with their desire to feel empowered by touching people... or a precursor to pick-pocketing. Any one of these weirdos, whatever nationality, tries it one with me is going to get a knee in the taters! Mr Grumpy the free hugs thing that is popular everywhere in the world except yours is about people wanting one and they go up to the person holding the sign or wearing the t shirt that says it to get a hug. No one will hug you without your permission nor do I think someone would even with your pleasant attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 hours ago, daveAustin said: Too right! These people are just weird and should be charged for touching people inappropriately. It's nothing to do with mourning and everything to do with their desire to feel empowered by touching people... or a precursor to pick-pocketing. Any one of these weirdos, whatever nationality, tries it one with me is going to get a knee in the taters! Try reading the article this time, and looking at the photos. They weren't "doing a Donald" ... they weren't approaching people and hugging them against their will. They were holding signs offering free hugs to mourners. Mourners' choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 They learned this flaky nonsense from american films…where else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Netizens were actually very upset when they found a girl giving free hugs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 5 hours ago, Donutz said: I had hoped that this news was cooked up by the Onion... There is no such thing as a permanent, unchanging or single culture. A countries 'culture' is a melting pot of millions of individuals. You may may make some simplified generalisations about a culture but those will remain what they are: simplistic generalisations that won't apply to the individual or quite possible even to the majority of people. But then again, some people seem to try and dictate or drill people into thinking there is actual a single way to be a true citizen... Nothing wrong with free hugs. If that is how some people wish to mourn, remember or handle their emotion, that is perfectly fine in my book. If culture was unchangable and came in one flavour... Thailand (and all other nations) wouldn't be the country that it is today. They'd all still be walking in cloths made of vegatation or animal skin hold together by some rope... Your rather commonplace remarks about evolving cultures are beside the point."Free hugs" in any event form no part of any evolved culture, simply a symptom of the more moronic aspects of Californian airheadedness. One does not have to buy in to every detail of the Thai government's current administration of affairs to find these attention seekers' activity inappropriate.We are at a particular juncture and sensitivity is important.My sympathies are entirely on the side of the Thai authorities - though the offence is trifling.These people should simply be asked to take their signs down and to think harder about what constitutes respect in current circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaBoy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Still nanny state should not intervene.Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchonrocks Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) I'd rather have a free hug from peace loving volunteers than be set upon by a perverted ladyboy gang and robbed at knifepoint. All things are relative I guess. Edited October 26, 2016 by scotchonrocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangostin Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 9 hours ago, jamesbrock said: Khaosod reported that the chief propagandist Sansern dismissed the behavior as un-Thai. Notice he didn't say this about gangs of violent vigilantes harassing and assaulting people who seemed insufficiently sad... Indeed, on 18 October, Justice Minister Paiboon Kumchaya was asked by the media for his opinion about the vigilante attack against a soy milk seller in Phuket accused of lèse majesté that occurred three days earlier - the Minister replied nothing is better than vigilantism and also encouraged Thais in other countries to do the same with lèse majesté offenders living abroad. ....i can't believe they are at it again! Just a few years back some government's official stated more or less the same thing, which foreigners abroad doing something that it's illegal in Thailand must to be prosecuted, now i can't remember if he also said that he would organize an expedition abroad to get the transgressors of the thai laws (not people being in Thailand, but foreigners in farangland which don't complies with thai laws, yes!), but i think he did, how do they manage to get away with this "krapp", i don't know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Alive said: Where the heck is this nation going! These guys are obviously paid by some mysterious person to push non-Thai ideas and destroy our Thainess. Offering 'Free Wais' would be acceptable. Does anyone have a list of fines as I was wondering what fine they would level for free hugs. Would it follow the fines leveled against illegal bridge games? I know Thai people do not like to be touched but this is a very touching procedure. Maybe I should make a trip there and by a surrogate to be hugged. These 3 kids look pretty honest but hugging presents a pickpocket problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 6 hours ago, Sphere said: Netizens were actually very upset when they found a girl giving free hugs..... Again: netizens need to get a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen tracy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Attitude adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 13 hours ago, daveAustin said: Well it's completely wrong in mine and goes against the grain here, too. If they want to feel glad all over, let them do it to each other, but for others, suggest they offer a respectful wai. This is the kind of Western import we don't need here, thanks. There is no nation with a mono culture, though offering hugs to strangers probably is uncommon in most if not all world nations. But if done with the best of intentions and only offering it, why feel upset about it? They are not forcing themselves upon people, which would quickly land these people with (sexual)assualt charges and being labelt perverts if they did. And what about hand shakes or a pad on the back? Is that also 'un-Thai' ? Who's to dictate what is 'Thai' behaviour and what is not? And who decides when customs change or acts become acceptable or unacceptable. Should those people ban hand shakes? Instruct ladies to were skirts and dresses rather than trousers? Or better yet to remove their tops as that isn't Thai, it wasn't untill somebody over a 100 years ago told the people to cover their breasts. Habbits change, people are different, all that matters is good intend and having respect. And for those hammering on sticking to what is 'culturally approperiate': the Thai or Buddhist way should dictate tolerance, a good heart, not getting upset... 11 hours ago, jayboy said: Your rather commonplace remarks about evolving cultures are beside the point."Free hugs" in any event form no part of any evolved culture, simply a symptom of the more moronic aspects of Californian airheadedness. One does not have to buy in to every detail of the Thai government's current administration of affairs to find these attention seekers' activity inappropriate.We are at a particular juncture and sensitivity is important.My sympathies are entirely on the side of the Thai authorities - though the offence is trifling.These people should simply be asked to take their signs down and to think harder about what constitutes respect in current circumstances. It's not a common thing in any country I think indeed but it does happen in various countries. People are different, habbits are different, they can change. What one person sees as moronic may get a thumbs up from an other. I find certain religious acts backwards but aslong as no physical harm is done to anybody and aslong as those involved perform their acts with good intentions and not against anybodys wishes, I simply am not to condemn such acts. Just showing some tolerance to those who see things differently, no harm there if it's clear that their intentions were good. Even the Junta acknowledge the good intetions though the do not aprove such behaviour. If I were to guess the Junta spokesman is one of those who believes in drilling "Thainess" into kids at school. Something which I see as a phobia to try and control the masses by holding people back from exploring the world and making it a better place. Khoasod reports: < quote > “Do you remember the witch hunting about wearing black? That’s creating division,” Teerawat wrote on Facebook later Sunday. “Let’s do what the King taught us and love each other instead.” (...) "I wanted to comfort Thais in this time of mourning and help encourage everyone,” he said. That didn’t satisfy military government spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd. Sansern on Tuesday dismissed the behavior as un-Thai. “Is the activity appropriate to our glorious Thai culture and the current mourning period?” Lt. Gen. Sansern said. “Instead of offering free hugs, youths should hold other, more appropriate activities. Col. Piyapong advised youth to “give love” in other ways, such as with free food or inhalers.” < end quote > I entirely agree with Teerawat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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