Order for Yingluck to pay Bt36 bn in compensation is legitimate: Prayut
By THE NATION

 

Yingluck

 

BANGKOK: -- PRIME Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha insisted yesterday that enforcement of an administrative order against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra to pay compensation of Bt35.7 billion |for huge losses incurred by her government’s rice pledging scheme was legitimate.

 

The PM said he had consulted with the government legal team that enacted the 1996 liability bill and they had told him that enforcing the order did not contravene the intention of the law.

“It is what has to be done,” Prayut said. “The legal experts all said it was not against the law. So, if they [Yingluck and her Cabinet members] have any explanations, they can provide them to the Court, not the media.” 

 

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Just like your "government" is legitimate?

Should all the people who voted the acceptance of he bill be charged as well? Article 44 says so anyway.

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Order for Yingluck to pay Bt36 bn in compensation is legitimate: Prayut

as is his "government", ... 

The threat and use of force does not make one legitimate.   The government's "legal team" is a contradiction in terms.  Governments "legal team"; that is really funny. 

"to the Court, not the media"  to ensure transparency.

Edited October 26, 20169 yr by silent

Presumably he said to Yingluck - "You have to trust me on this...."

A legitimate extortion of a former PM. YES we have even modified this law so they will not come after myself and my family later :)

Legitimate or not. It feels right.

What is an order, closed room session determination by somebody, a trial?  Was this the sentence after a trial?

So she is supposed to pay the modest sum of 36,000,000,000฿ ?

so say the people who became incredible rich overnight," yeah right"??

1 hour ago, sweatalot said:

Legitimate or not. It feels right.

How it can feel right?I thought the trial is still running

3 hours ago, sweatalot said:

Legitimate or not. It feels right.

same as having sex with a bar girl in thailand. you know it is illegal but it feels right so why not?

8 hours ago, webfact said:

“It is what has to be done,” Prayut said. “The legal experts all said it was not against the law. So, if they [Yingluck and her Cabinet members] have any explanations, they can provide them to the Court, not the media.” 

Emphasis on the HAS. The legal experts which are all in my pocket say its not against the law. Don't argue or I will hammer you with article 44. Oh Oh he makes mention of that evil monster called social media. Does Goliath sense David is stalking him??

8 hours ago, jamesbrock said:

Just like your "government" is legitimate?

 

Certainly is. 

 

 

14 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

Emphasis on the HAS. The legal experts which are all in my pocket say its not against the law. Don't argue or I will hammer you with article 44. Oh Oh he makes mention of that evil monster called social media. Does Goliath sense David is stalking him??

 

I think the point he is making is that long whinging posts on FB, which always drone on about how unfair it all is without ever bothering to actually defend the charges or explain how not bothering to turn up to chair any meetings or heed any warning or seemingly keep proper financial and management accounts isn't negligent is nonsense. It's BS aimed at getting sympathy. No more no less.

 

Not once have I read any comment from Yingluck or her defense team that actually tries to defend her actions. All attacking the process, complaining it's unfair, asking for justice i.e. let me off, etc etc.  Suggests she hasn't got any defense other than "she's really nice and caring. Others did it the same. It was to help the poor. It was a subsidy even though it wasn't" etc etc etc.

 

 

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I think the point he is making is that long whinging posts on FB, which always drone on about how unfair it all is without ever bothering to actually defend the charges or explain how not bothering to turn up to chair any meetings or heed any warning or seemingly keep proper financial and management accounts isn't negligent is nonsense. It's BS aimed at getting sympathy. No more no less.

 

Not once have I read any comment from Yingluck or her defense team that actually tries to defend her actions. All attacking the process, complaining it's unfair, asking for justice i.e. let me off, etc etc.  Suggests she hasn't got any defense other than "she's really nice and caring. Others did it the same. It was to help the poor. It was a subsidy even though it wasn't" etc etc etc.

 

 

You make a good point she had lots of time to empty the cupboard. She knew in advance that this would all end badly for her. Her only sympathy is from the little people. The elite have a target painted on her back. Even the elite have a pecking order. Don't get uppity.

She gets what she deserves, even foreign organizations have warned her to not repeat this costly failed scheme.

4 hours ago, mrmicbkktxl said:

How it can feel right?I thought the trial is still running

I did not say it feels legitimate, I said it feels right

A thief calling a thief a thief.

Hopefully the horrid little man can learn a lesson for the future from Yingluck, so if he too has any "explanations", he too can "provide them to the Court, not the media."

Somehow it is one thing to ask, even demand she pays up.

 

But as for making her paying up, I got a feeling it is going to be easier to get blood out of a stone.   

It may very well be legal however tit for tat repercussions in your direction, I gather you wont object  General Prayut, as you would well know Thai's have long memories , what comes around goes around, however long it takes......................................

9 hours ago, Tchooptip said:

So she is supposed to pay the modest sum of 36,000,000,000฿ ?

Big brother can help out if she comes up short.

3 hours ago, stephen tracy said:

A thief calling a thief a thief.

A thief is a thief, even if called a thief by a thief.

 

Btw. I don't think Prayuth is a thief - if that's what you mean

1 minute ago, sweatalot said:

A thief is a thief, even if called a thief by a thief.

 

Btw. I don't think Prayuth is a thief - if that's what you mean

 

Soldiers don't earn the kind of obscene wealth P has accrued.  He also refuses to allow anyone to look into his, or his family's finances lest they wish to go to jail.  Every scandal that has emerged since the coup concerning the military has been investigated by the military, and "no irregularities have been found".  Ahem......

10 hours ago, Tchooptip said:

So she is supposed to pay the modest sum of 36,000,000,000฿ ?

 

You vely smart sir, did you need a calculator for that?

 

Do you know how much her brother has? 4.000.000.000 US$

7 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I think the point he is making is that long whinging posts on FB, which always drone on about how unfair it all is without ever bothering to actually defend the charges or explain how not bothering to turn up to chair any meetings or heed any warning or seemingly keep proper financial and management accounts isn't negligent is nonsense. It's BS aimed at getting sympathy. No more no less.

 

Not once have I read any comment from Yingluck or her defense team that actually tries to defend her actions. All attacking the process, complaining it's unfair, asking for justice i.e. let me off, etc etc.  Suggests she hasn't got any defense other than "she's really nice and caring. Others did it the same. It was to help the poor. It was a subsidy even though it wasn't" etc etc etc.

 

 

 

I doubt she would be that contemptuous to provide a defense on social media while the case is before the courts. The main issue being, that besides judgement by the junta and his cohorts how can any sane person defend applying a penalty before legal judgement is determined. The whole saga lacks due process and is just typical of Prayuth where his mouth needs to consult his brain before opening. Better still consult an intelligent brain if such exists within his merry band of treasonists.

Here's just a sample amongst 853 rice scheme corruption cases - this one involves:
Faked rice deal  links a red-shirt leader and a Yingluck Pheu Thai party MP and a Thaksin crony insider:
 

Dummy firm tied to govt figures

*Guangzhou-based GSSG Import and Export Corporation, was actually represented by a Thai man called Rathanit Sojirakul, who later authorised Phichit-based Nimon Rakdi to (sign) a contract to purchase 5 million tonnes of rice on the company’s behalf. ...Rathanit was a close aide to Pheu Thai MP Rapeephan Phongruangrong, who is the wife of red-shirt leader Arisman Phongruangrong. ...Rathanit, who claimed to be the authorised representative of the Chinese firm, only has Bt64.63 in his bank account...

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/aec/30195106
 

Telling comment from Yingluck's (Thaksin's) Commerce minister:
“(After buying the rice) I won’t be investigating what buyers do with it,” he said.
 

Obviously Yingluck + Commerce Minister were not at all interested in investigating their own corruption laden program but some may ask, so what did happen to the rice in this supposedly 'innocent normal subsidy deal'?
 

*The G-to-G deal was a fake because no rice was exported to the Chinese firm. Instead, the huge amount of milled rice was sold locally at below market price by the Foreign Trade Department to a ghost buyer who then sold the rice at market price to the two Thai firms which have their own rice mills and later on the same amount of rice were pledged with the government at pledging prices which are about 40 percent above market price.
 

The gang, it was alleged, made double profits from the same amount of rice.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-yingluck-probed-connection-fake-rice-deal/

 

*Meanwhile, the poorest farmers weren't even part of the program. The program was a fraud from the outset. Yet Shin-shills on here would forgive all because as Yingluck stated 'We came from election' (therefore can do whatever they wish apparently). However, once you have MASS CORRUPTION combined with MASS ABROGATION, SUBVERSION and MANIPULATION of all CHECKS and BALANCES which form the very underpinnings of democracy, then you have made the very intent of democracy VOID. Ergo: Democracy was ceased by the Shins actions (yet again, nevermind amnesty for 'the boss').

The past 2 coups became an unfortunate moot point answer to the above, all brought about by the avarice and self-serving over-reach of Thaksin. Simply stating 'but we came from election' is moot once they have all but destroyed the very intent and underpinnings of democracy. But these are the low woeful standards which Shin supporters seem to 'aspire to' for the Thai people... Others reluctantly agree a re-set was sadly needed or the road to an unhindered & autocratic dynasty similar to a Marcos or Suharto or Hun Sen was assured.

Ultimately in the the rice scheme/fraud, unfortunately Yingluck chose to go along with 'Thaksin speaks / Yingluck does'. In fairness, she had no choice. The result is she willfully turned a blind eye to an 8+ billion USD plunder, therefore is guilty at the least of 'gross negligence of duty'  which is specifically NOT excused under the civil liability law to protect public servants - despite Shin-shills hard 'at work' spinning, deflecting and ultimately defending on behalf of a despot multi-billionaire task master.

 

 

Edited October 26, 20169 yr by sujoop
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