FBI reopens probe into Hillary Clinton's emails

[attrayant]

Regarding the Hatch Act, it applies to all Federal employees and most DC Government employees, with the exception of the president and VP.  I was a program director for six years and had to sit through a refresher seminar given by our General Counsel every year.  All newly hired employees must attend also.  

 

We were not permitted to give even the appearance of campaigning or perform campaign-like activities while on the job.  We couldn't have political stickers on our desks or wear campaign buttons during office hours, or on the way to or from work.  After hours, we could campaign or express support for our candidate of choice provided we made sure we fully disconnected ourselves from our roles as government employees.

 

Example:

 

"Trump is the greatest; vote for Trump!" <-- no problem

"I'm the manager of the DC department of parks, and I think you should vote for Trump!" <-- clear violation of the Hatch Act.

 

The second statement is an abuse of public office to influence an election.

 

High profile employees are especially problematic since it's nearly impossible for them to go incognito when they're off the clock.  Comey is well known enough that everybody will always associate him with the FBI, whether or not he's on the clock.  So to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, such high profile figures were always discouraged from being politically outspoken at all times.

 

I'm not a lawyer but that's my take on it after six years of having it drilled into my skull.

Edited October 30, 2016 by attrayant

[212Roger]

3 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

only a fool doesnt

Fair enough.  Also, you do have more to lose.  You have a lot more posts than I.  "Take care" my friend.

[Chicog]

57 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Not easy fighting a corrupt MSM backing the democrats. The dishonest liberal media have a lot answer for.

 

Yes. Fancy telling everyone what Trump says and gets up to.

Totally unfair.

 

[Ulysses G.]

7 minutes ago, Chicog said:

 

Yes. Fancy telling everyone what Trump says and gets up to.
 

 

It is the continual lies, spin and distortions that I object to.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/658877?keywords=trump-biggest-media-lies&year=2015&month=07&date=25&id=658877&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Wire&oref=com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

[AYJAYDEE]

4 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

It is the continual lies, spin and distortions that I object to.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/658877?keywords=trump-biggest-media-lies&year=2015&month=07&date=25&id=658877&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Wire&oref=com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

 

perhaps you should stop listening to him then?

[Publicus]

2 hours ago, CWMcMurray said:

While I understand the motive to avoid unduly influencing an election, such a law would not be a simple matter

First off, is it all law agencies at all levels? Or just DOJ?

What if any public safety concerns?

Obviously there are no public safety concerns in this case, but what if some future candidate was suspected of murder or or rape? Do the police have a responsibility to pursue the issue immediately?

Let's say Weiner was running for congress or president when they found the sexting with the 15 year old? Does he get a free pass and get to continue to do so until the election is over?

Or even if some white collar crime, what if it was something that was an ongoing crime? Should the victims be forced to continue being victimized just because the offender is running for office?

Or what if it is a real case of espionage that state secrets are in process of being lost to foreign governments? Should they get a pass and be allowed to Continue selling state secrets until after the election is over?

Also in the case of any of the above.. If the DOJ or police officers know or suspect these types of things.. Do the public have the right to know prior to voting?

Now this case is none of the things mentioned above , except maybe the last about whether or not the public should have the right to know if a candidate is under investigation , but if we are considering a Law ...

As a balance would need To be struck between public safety , the rule of law, the right of voters to have full information and the possible abuse of

Power by some to try and unduly influence an election

Then all of the above need to be considered and discussed. As I am not opposed outright to such a law but would depend greatly on how such a law would be written and the specific details.

At the end of the day, I honestly

do not believe this will effect the election results in this election

At least not unless the FBI came out before the election with an indictment or more specific details of a 'smoking gun ' email or similar.

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Been there, done that.

 

So I can say you ask the right questions and do a good job towards thinking things through, comprehensively.

 

Lot more to it of course yet the post is excellent for what it presents.

 

An x number of days law would be perfect so it would need to be refined by amendment and defined by the courts. Still, such a law would be more clear than the Hatch Act which everyone has to read over several times to understand a provision, and which has a multitude of provisions (few if any of which might apply to Comey's Election Coup Attempt). 

 

Bottom line is that Constitutionally Comey cannot properly do this then walk off into the sunset to join some guy like Shelton Adleson for example and get a $3 million a year package. Or to just do this and then walk off period.

 

The long arm of the law will need to reach out to grab James Comey where it hurts. An election coup for Potus is as serious a violation of the Constitution as anything can be. We've got to make clear crime doesn't pay over there on the dark side where James Comey has been hanging out. 

[Ulysses G.]

12 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

perhaps you should stop listening to him then?

 

It is impossible to completely ignore the MSM and the far left and far right media are just as bad. I rely on honest commentators like Charles Krauthammer and Chris Wallace, but read various sources to get an overview of all the different talking points.

[JHolmesJr]

8 minutes ago, Publicus said:

The long arm of the law will need to reach out to grab James Comey where it hurts.

 

Ho hum....Comey is the iron fist at the end of the 'long arm of the law'. 

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

 

It is impossible to completely ignore the MSM and the far left and far right media are just as bad. I rely on honest commentators like Charles Krauthammer and Chris Wallace, but read various sources to get an overview of all the different talking points.

 

I meant trump

[iReason]

Clinton emails: Officials advised FBI not to reveal inquiry

 

"The FBI was advised by the US justice department not to inform Congress of a new inquiry into Hillary Clinton's email use, officials say."

 

"Justice department officials said the move would be inconsistent with rules designed to avoid the appearance of interference in an election."

 

"FBI Director James Comey acted independently when he briefed lawmakers in a letter on Friday."

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37815558

[Publicus]

2 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

• Anyone who reads your posts knows that is your story and you will stick to it no matter what. 

 

Relax, it's been a long haul for everyone so my "story" will wind down and up November 8th. 

 

That'll be when youse guyz open fire on the Republican Party Ft. Sumpter.

[iReason]

Clinton enjoys solid lead in early voting: Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

"With 11 days to go before the U.S. presidential election, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton leads Republican Donald Trump by 15 percentage points among early voters surveyed in the past two weeks, according to the Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project."

 

"Though data is not available for all early voting states, Clinton enjoys an edge in swing states such as Ohio and Arizona and in Republican Party strongholds such as Georgia and Texas."

 

"Overall, Clinton remained on track to win a majority of votes in the Electoral College, the Reuters/Ipsos survey showed.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN12T0J6

[dcutman]

6 hours ago, keemapoot said:

 

My wild conspiracy theory was just confirmed by the FBI themselves, that they do not have a warrant yet.  And, if Comey knows what's in the emails he has broken the law himself and can be criminally prosecuted, so that doesn't wash either.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

Of course there is also reporting that Weiner is cooperating with the FBI and possibly gave them permission to review any information they like on this computer so no warrant necessary.

So dont get to excited.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/30/weiner-hands-laptop-over-to-fbi-as-clinton-keeps-her-distance/

 

Ole  Carlos Danger just might have some hard feelings for his estranged wife.

[Prbkk]

As CNN is reporting ( perhaps reluctantly), the 'smoking gun' is that there the emails appear to include some that had been deleted from the Clinton server prior to it being handed to the FBI.

This can't be written off as dirty tricks.

[dcutman]

1 hour ago, Prbkk said:

As CNN is reporting ( perhaps reluctantly), the 'smoking gun' is that there the emails appear to include some that had been deleted from the Clinton server prior to it being handed to the FBI.

This can't be written off as dirty tricks.

 

As there is a crackpot  here calling this evidence review a "political coup", its becoming more obvious, not that was ever any doubt, The FBI has some serious evidence, and most likely does not want to face the future possibility of going to the White House and arresting the POTUS.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2016 by dcutman

[dcutman]

7 hours ago, Pinot said:

This scandal was over two hours after it broke

 

 

 

It actually seems to be expanding by the minute.

 

 

[Publicus]

50 minutes ago, dcutman said:

 

As there is a crackpot  here calling this evidence review a "political coup", its becoming more obvious, not that was ever any doubt, The FBI has some serious evidence, and most likely does not want to face the future possibility of going to the White House and arresting the POTUS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

FBI does not know what it has. Comey's letter indicated it unmistakably. Comey will resign sooner or later due to his unconstitutional actions in the closing days of this Potus election campaign. If Comey does not resign, he will be shitcanned sooner or later.  

 

By producing the letter Comey placed himself above the DoJ and thus FBI practice since J. Edgar Hoover died to not discuss publicly ongoing investigations or inquires within 60 days of an election.

 

Comey is consciously and willfully trying to swing the election or to directly impact the election. Comey's only intended consequence on the election in doing the letter is to be intentionally adverse to the Democratic Party and its nominee, HRC.  Cheerfully, 

 

The one thing for certain is that James Comey knows what he is doing. Whether he is in his right mind is another question however. Proof is that Comey does not know the contents of the emails he is referring to and he said exactly that. The guy is a nutcase gone off the deep end.

[Publicus]

15 minutes ago, dcutman said:

 

It actually seems to be expanding by the minute.

 

 

 

This is exactly what we want. Comey needs to produce. Comey can't produce because he himself says he hasn't seen the emails, doesn't know what may be in them or if they are emails he'd already seen.

 

The CNN interview presented is an almost 7 stemwinding minutes of concocted and convoluted verbiage by the former FBI guy carrying on at what must be 300 words per minute. The lady interviewer kept having to ask 'what are you connecting here.' Anyone who can slice through this clip should get some kind of award. She finally blurted, 'ok we gotta go' to terminate the ramble.

 

Comey fails in his attempted political and election coup. I would not call it a one man coup either. They never are.

[Publicus]

2 hours ago, Prbkk said:

As CNN is reporting ( perhaps reluctantly), the 'smoking gun' is that there the emails appear to include some that had been deleted from the Clinton server prior to it being handed to the FBI.

This can't be written off as dirty tricks.

 

the emails appear to include some that

 

Nobody knows the contents of the subject emails. It is impossible for them to appear to say anything at this point. To claim otherwise could be written up as dirty tricks.

 

As the TVF poster and distinguished occasional legal counsel pro bono has noted, if Comey does know the contents of the emails, then the only possibility would be that his knowledge was illegally obtained, which would make him subject to prosecution.

 

Speculation the Weiner gave others permission to view the emails comes at us from out of the blue as does this entire attempted political and election coup by Comey et al.

Edited October 30, 2016 by Publicus
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[Credo]

2 hours ago, Prbkk said:

As CNN is reporting ( perhaps reluctantly), the 'smoking gun' is that there the emails appear to include some that had been deleted from the Clinton server prior to it being handed to the FBI.

This can't be written off as dirty tricks.

Well, of course.   All those deleted emails would have been sent to various people.   

[Publicus]

20 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Ho hum....Comey is the iron fist at the end of the 'long arm of the law'. 

 

The squeeze on James Comey is just now beginning due to his wild attempt to conduct a political and election coup d'etat. From WSJ just now...

 

Harry Reid: FBI Director Comey’s ‘Partisan Actions’ May Violate Federal Law

 

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said FBI Director James Comey may have violated a federal law when he disclosed, less than two weeks before the presidential election, that his office was pursuing potential new evidence related to Democratic nominee’s Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state.

Mr. Reid was preparing to send a letter to Mr. Comey on Sunday saying he appears to be aiding one political party over another. He said that may violate the Hatch Act, which bars government officials from using their position to influence an election.

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/10/30/harry-reid-comeys-partisan-actions-may-violate-federal-law/

 

Reid is of course retiring. His successor as leader of the Democrats in the Senate beginning in January will be Sen. Chuck "Bruser" Schumer of New York.

 

Stand by and stay tuned....

[Ulysses G.]

46 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

Nobody knows the contents of the subject emails. 

 

Noone besides the FBI agents investigating the charges against Anthony Weiner and whoever they informed about what they discovered. 

 

[Linzz]

18 hours ago, attrayant said:

Nobody's questioning that.  The question is why make a huge stink now when we know absolutely nothing, and likely won't know for many weeks.

 

 

Because Comey concluded there was no case to answer previously so now with fortuitous new revelations he is compelled to announce the investigation is obliged to continue. When does he tell that? Before or after the election? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Linzz]

17 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

The FBI is not going to be able to complete the investigation in the next 10 days. Any partial release of detail will only further inflame partisan passions one way or another. If this is all we get between now and the election, where does that leave us?  Yes, the email scandal stays in the news, but Trump's supporters kept this issue alive anyway. If Comey's memo is seen as unfair innuendo against Clinton this could cast her in a sympathetic light. Also, this element of uncertainty so close to Election Day will have an energizing impact on Democratic get out the vote efforts. This could actually turn into a positive for Clinton. Clinton's call for release of full details is certainly encouraging.

 

She also knows that Comey cannot reveal evidence in a case until that case is concluded. If she is desperate for the emails to be released then she can do it herself.

[Linzz]

17 hours ago, Silurian said:

 

I truly believe Comey is trying to cover his behind and is acting very insecure. I don't think he has a political agenda beyond making sure he stays in his position as FBI Director. His tentative and kowtowing behavior shows his insecurities under pressure. He seems to be up against his own lack of proper judgement and should take a hard look at himself.

 

Maybe he is" insecure" about wikileaks revealing facts before he does. This way at least he has uncovered his own evidence supposedly. Don't think you could successfully build a case on evidence from wikileaks. Obama would just cancel the election citing interference by a foreign power. 

[jaidam]

apparently the file which stored these damning emails on Weiner and Abedins shared home computer was titled - wait for it -" life insurance"

 

 this is going to delightfully juicy. Now how any Clinton fan can say that holding state secrets and other classified documents on serial sex predator and all round fool Weiner, and Islamic terror linked Abedins computer is normal is beyond me.

[dcutman]

2 hours ago, Publicus said:

 

FBI does not know what it has. Comey's letter indicated it unmistakably. Comey will resign sooner or later due to his unconstitutional actions in the closing days of this Potus election campaign. If Comey does not resign, he will be shitcanned sooner or later.  

 

By producing the letter Comey placed himself above the DoJ and thus FBI practice since J. Edgar Hoover died to not discuss publicly ongoing investigations or inquires within 60 days of an election.

 

Comey is consciously and willfully trying to swing the election or to directly impact the election. Comey's only intended consequence on the election in doing the letter is to be intentionally adverse to the Democratic Party and its nominee, HRC.  Cheerfully, 

 

The one thing for certain is that James Comey knows what he is doing. Whether he is in his right mind is another question however. Proof is that Comey does not know the contents of the emails he is referring to and he said exactly that. The guy is a nutcase gone off the deep end.

Bla Bla Blaaaaa

You have no idea what the FBI knows. Apparently they have had and been combing through this computer for several weeks. My guess it is very damaging information.

Lets not forget Clinton is the criminal here, she has brought this investigation upon herself. She alone is responsible for all and every event that has occurred up to this point, she alone will be responsible for the destruction of her campaign not Comey. She alone tried gaming the system knowingly and willfully setting up an unauthorized, illegal secret server to hide her corrupt practices and enriching herself, her family, and her foundation.

She does need to wait for the FBI to put out what information these new emails contain, she can go get her aid Huma at let the world know themselves. Obviously its Humas computer she should know whats on it.

You trying to pin the blame on the messenger is getting very boring.

Edited October 30, 2016 by dcutman

[Publicus]

 

Most encouraging about the system of government and its checks and balances is that the ghost of J. Edgar Hoover that presently sits in the office of the director of FBI in the person of James Comey is going to be held accountable for his equally conscious and willful violations of the Constitution and the electoral process. 

 

We need the FBI, however, its history from its origin is mixed and it is entirely due to three directors among its 12 permanent directors: J. Edgar Hoover, L. Patrick Gray, James B. Comey. Three guys from the Dark Side.

 

Hoover went into the History books as we know him to be, i.e., a power mad and corrupt official. L. Patrict Gray remains the only FBI director taken to book for secretly passing papers and documents to the Nixon White House during Watergate, and now James Comey the wannabe maker of a 2016 political and election coup d'etat.

 

Truth does win out and justice does get done, as we shall continue to see. 

[dcutman]

5 hours ago, iReason said:

Clinton enjoys solid lead in early voting: Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

"With 11 days to go before the U.S. presidential election, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton leads Republican Donald Trump by 15 percentage points among early voters surveyed in the past two weeks, according to the Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project."

 

"Though data is not available for all early voting states, Clinton enjoys an edge in swing states such as Ohio and Arizona and in Republican Party strongholds such as Georgia and Texas."

 

"Overall, Clinton remained on track to win a majority of votes in the Electoral College, the Reuters/Ipsos survey showed.

Having so many ballots locked down before the Nov. 8 election is good news for the Clinton campaign."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN12T0J6

Thats a very interesting poll you have uncovered.

Here is several more polls that is a bit more relevant.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

 Notice a trend going on here from early last week to the most recent? I find the ABC poll with the most interesting trend.

BTW before you call me a Trumpeteer again I am a registered democrat that is undecided but hates criminals and do all I can to keep them out of public service. I know its impossible in todays world and sometime you have to pick the best of the worst based on history and conscience.

Edited October 30, 2016 by dcutman

[tuktuktuk]

16 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

Most encouraging about the system of government and its checks and balances is that the ghost of J. Edgar Hoover that presently sits in the office of the director of FBI in the person of James Comey is going to be held accountable for his equally conscious and willful violations of the Constitution and the electoral process. 

 

We need the FBI, however, its history from its origin is mixed and it is entirely due to three directors among its 12 permanent directors: J. Edgar Hoover, L. Patrick Gray, James B. Comey. Three guys from the Dark Side.

 

Hoover went into the History books as we know him to be, i.e., a power mad and corrupt official. L. Patrict Gray remains the only FBI director taken to book for secretly passing papers and documents to the Nixon White House during Watergate, and now James Comey the wannabe maker of a 2016 political and election coup d'etat.

 

Truth does win out and justice does get done, as we shall continue to see. 

Maybe you're right. Looks to me like Comey just fell on the sword in one last gasp attempt to block a Clinton presidency. I suspect he was planning to indict her back in June, but the higher ups said no. Maybe he is from the dark side, but your boy Obama put him there.