The latest developments in the US elections

[alex8912]

It's now 8:45 am EST. Could anyone imagine Hillary who has been up by 6 or 7  for the last year and a half be silent still?  

This is really one of her top 100 embarrassing moments. 

[alex8912]

31 minutes ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

I think this member, after the 6 months of non-stop insults and vitriol directed at other members, can now be added to most people's "ignore" list.

I only have one person on my ignore list. I've been a member for 6 years. I will keep her on it. 

[Thaidream]

the Dollar is holding up because the latest GDP figures show almost 3^ growth in the US economy witn no inflation and low unemployment. Tis is better than most other industrialized countries.  Now the question is whether the US Fed will increase interest rates or hold the line because of the Trump victory.

Trump's agenda will depend upon who he appoints in his cabinet. I suspect Giuliani will get Attorney General and Newt Gingrich-Secretary of State. He will need a lot of expertise and some former poiticians to make sure he can carry out his promises. I doubt he will build the wall as he will find out that he needs Congress to approve the funding and there will be opposition. No problem- he will blame it on Congress.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Thaidream

[MiKT]

Oh well shit happens.

 

The potential disasters to the US and rest of the world are queuing up like the traffic on a Bangkok Monday.

 

Good job I also know how to spell "I told you so" when it all starts to go to ratshit.

[soalbundy]

2 hours ago, Dtrump said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

 

UK debt 569% of GDP.

 

You shouldn't discuss thing you have no idea about what you talk.  Who holds US debt?  The largest owner of US debt is US Social Security.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2014/10/28/who-owns-the-most-u-s-debt/#20006d531907

 

You should improve your English. I read the table supplied by Wiki, this debt is government and PRIVATE debt, ie banks and companies. Eurostat gives the government debt.

Only one third of Americas debt is owned by Americans two thirds are owned by foreign countries, mainly China and Japan who would be very pleased to finance America further if they are repaid at 85 cents to the Dollar. He made this jocular remark in the summer who knows if he thought through the ramifications, probably not.

Much of what he has said, playing to the masses, sounds good to the blue collar workers in the bar. One doesn't attack the establishment unpunished, look what happened to Kennedy. Trump as president is not omnipotent, i dare say his party will reign him in, after all they are part of the establishment themselves, Trump although rich isn't, he is a wealthy red neck.

[Dtrump]

3 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

You should improve your English. I read the table supplied by Wiki, this debt is government and PRIVATE debt, ie banks and companies. Eurostat gives the government debt.

Only one third of Americas debt is owned by Americans two thirds are owned by foreign countries, mainly China and Japan who would be very pleased to finance America further if they are repaid at 85 cents to the Dollar. He made this jocular remark in the summer who knows if he thought through the ramifications, probably not.

Much of what he has said, playing to the masses, sounds good to the blue collar workers in the bar. One doesn't attack the establishment unpunished, look what happened to Kennedy. Trump as president is not omnipotent, i dare say his party will reign him in, after all they are part of the establishment themselves, Trump although rich isn't, he is a wealthy red neck.

Don't complain to me about your English.  I gave you the links of the debt I referred to.  America does not carry a particularly large amount of debt when compared to other nations as you first imagined. 

[Twin Peaks]

Today is a great day in America!!! Now time to turn the talk into action. 

 

Can't wait to see all the liberal celebrities flee the country. 

[soalbundy]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Con man.

politician, oh ! same thing 

[Usernames]

Who is more humiliated? Hillary or Publicus?

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, Dtrump said:

Don't complain to me about your English.  I gave you the links of the debt I referred to.  America does not carry a particularly large amount of debt when compared to other nations as you first imagined. 

Your English, not mine. You refer to percentages, i refer to amounts. The UK's debt is a drop in the ocean on amount as far as the world economy is concerned whereas Americas is unimaginable in numbers, like trying to fathom how big the universe is, once trust is lost there is no hope for any of us, we all go down the drain. America is like a bank that is bankrupt but nobody wants to admit it, least of all those who have large deposits in their vaults so everyone keeps bringing money to the bank hoping no one will shout ''ponzi''

[Dumbastheycome]

A  change in décor  may  be imminent  but the  design team behind the  offered choice stays the  sucker  same.

And  no way  does  anyone get a chance to  vote  for that !

[soalbundy]

12 minutes ago, Twin Peaks said:

Today is a great day in America!!! Now time to turn the talk into action. 

 

Can't wait to see all the liberal celebrities flee the country. 

and all the companies who rely on their foreign production plants and customers.

[Dtrump]

7 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Your English, not mine. You refer to percentages, i refer to amounts. The UK's debt is a drop in the ocean on amount as far as the world economy is concerned whereas Americas is unimaginable in numbers, like trying to fathom how big the universe is, once trust is lost there is no hope for any of us, we all go down the drain. America is like a bank that is bankrupt but nobody wants to admit it, least of all those who have large deposits in their vaults so everyone keeps bringing money to the bank hoping no one will shout ''ponzi''

Amounts have no meaning alone.  Percents relate the value to reality.  That's why taxes are in percents. Banks have to keep a percent of deposits in reserve not a fixed number.  How much sales tax do you pay on an auto same Rolls and Renault? The UK was the worlds bank till they gave the responsibility to America after WWII at Bretten Woods.   That may change but not in the near future. 

[MiKT]

4 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

Nor predictions your's  

 

Well what has suddenly happened to all your predictions that the vote was rigged? Having a celebratory bonfire with all your pre-printed protest leaflets are you?

 

 

[Dtrump]

10 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

and all the companies who rely on their foreign production plants and customers.

Why?  Trump will give tax advantages to keep manufacturing in the USA and negotiate trade deals that prevent the government devaluation of currency to flood America with materials.  If you want to play with America you have agree to play fair.  Do you really expect America to pay for the medical of every poor Mexican? 

[duanebigsby]

2 hours ago, Dtrump said:

America has arrived and is getting ready to kick other countries out of the room who don't play fair like Mexico and China. 

and Canada and all of Europe, Japan, Korea,  SE Asia, and Africa....... hey.....no country plays fair according toTrump. Who are you going to trade with when the entire world says <deleted>!!

[Dtrump]

2 minutes ago, MiKT said:

 

Well what has suddenly happened to all your predictions that the vote was rigged? Having a celebratory bonfire with all your pre-printed protest leaflets are you?

The win was so overwhelming and one sided that the fixing made little or no difference.  Like a prize fight where the opponent is knocked out the ref can't fix.

[duanebigsby]

1 minute ago, Dtrump said:

The win was so overwhelming and one sided that the fixing made little or no difference.  Like a prize fight where the opponent is knocked out the ref can't fix.

and if Hillary had won, the fix would have been yuuuge.

It wasn't ever fixed! 

Conspiracy nuts. No one who supported the Dems is screaming fix.

 

[Usernames]

7 minutes ago, MiKT said:

 

Well what has suddenly happened to all your predictions that the vote was rigged? Having a celebratory bonfire with all your pre-printed protest leaflets are you?

 

 

 

Wikileaks proved in fact that the election was rigged. Collusion and conspiracy among the media, the Justice Dept., the FBI, and Democrats. But a National Uprising took place that they could not hide or cheat their way past.

[Usernames]

6 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

and Canada and all of Europe, Japan, Korea,  SE Asia, and Africa....... hey.....no country plays fair according toTrump. Who are you going to trade with when the entire world says <deleted>!!

 

The US currently has a trade deficit with just about everybody.  They need us more than we need them.

[MiKT]

3 minutes ago, Dtrump said:

The win was so overwhelming and one sided that the fixing made little or no difference.  Like a prize fight where the opponent is knocked out the ref can't fix.

 

Perhaps it was the start of the "big fixes" that are going to happen now. 555.

 

It reminds me of the train doors on the first MTR line in HK that were held together with the first generation Cyanoacrylate Adhesive (superglue) - touted by the manufactures to be the best, most lasting fixings ever. But they fell apart after 6 months in the HK climate and they could not be repaired.

 

Trumps fixes for America will not even last that long and some may well be irreparable.

[soalbundy]

4 minutes ago, Dtrump said:

Why?  Trump will give tax advantages to keep manufacturing in the USA and negotiate trade deals that prevent the government devaluation of currency to flood America with materials.  If you want to play with America you have agree to play fair.  Do you really expect America to pay for the medical of every poor Mexican? 

You mean by that that he is going to encourage companies not to invest abroad but expects these foreigners to buy American products and buy their treasury bills to finance a life style that America really cant afford. America once was and still is to some extent, the power house of the world but things are changing rapidly. Nothing lasts forever. Starting with the first world war the British empire collapsed fairly quickly having shone for 200 years, America's demise will be quicker after a shorter reign of power but it doesn't have to be painful if managed correctly. The world community should be just that, partners who need each other.

[duanebigsby]

5 minutes ago, Usernames said:

 

The US currently has a trade deficit with just about everybody.  They need us more than we need them.

ok... Trump will make it difficult for countries to get a fair deal with US because 
"hey want to deal...these are the rules"  Countries will look elsewhere where fair deals are available.

It's not like the US has the only products on the market.

[Dtrump]

4 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

ok... Trump will make it difficult for countries to get a fair deal with US because 
"hey want to deal...these are the rules"  Countries will look elsewhere where fair deals are available.

It's not like the US has the only products on the market.

The other countries sell more to the USA by mega dollars than they buy.  You have it mixed up.  To exclude another country from the USA market is to put that country out of business there is no replacement for the USA economy - it's too big.

[Honthy]

6 hours ago, HLover said:

Yes, wise words from the historical masterminds of the Frenchie's and current words of wisdom echo a bit more hollow:

The current French ambassador to the United States has tweeted that the "world is collapsing before our eyes" as Donald Trump looks set to become US President.

Gerard Araud, who is the serving ambassador, tweeting his remarks as forecasters predict the Republican billionaire will defeat Hillary Clinton.

The 63-year-old said: "After Brexit and this election, everything is now possible. A world is collapsing before our eyes. Dizziness."

Word is collapsing, hopefully for liberals only. ;-) As I see Brexit is one important steps when the European citizen stood up and said NO to the impotent EU Parliament, incl. Phedo Kohn Bandit, alcoholic Junkers, and persons without GCE in high positions. ( This maybe deleted, but these were published in Europe, not only in the right wing newspapers).
H. Clinton is sick, not able to work as President of a Banana country, leaving alone the USA, and the country needs a strong man (or woman, but strong) to survive.
Some decades ago the USA was indisputable leaders in almost every factor of the industry and the agriculture, their facilities were dream to any other countries. Now the situation has drastically changed. The moral of the country  and the public safety was far much better than now. Almost every week we can read report on  a tragedy in a school or shopping mall. The murders are not terrorist in most of the cases, but students in the school retired solders and nothing to do with the well advertised Islam terrorism.
I do hope Trump can build a new country on the ruin of the once the USA 

 

Edited November 9, 2016 by Honthy

[Dumbastheycome]

2 hours ago, alanrchase said:

America has left the room.

And  dare  you say  who steps in ? They that are reside  stateside  but  are  not in  mind  for  anyone or any place  but themselves

The  world  is  about to suffer a  vindictive wave of  selfish zealous retribution.

The " Chosen ones" have  long  followed a philosophy that may now be rapidly invoked.

I predict a  shortv term disaster  on financial markets impacting  any currencies politically associated  with  the  $US. 

 

 

As  an afterthought....if you  shoot  yourself in the foot can you expect  your enemies  to  hold  fire or would they put you out of  your  misery?

 

 

[Dtrump]

15 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

You mean by that that he is going to encourage companies not to invest abroad but expects these foreigners to buy American products and buy their treasury bills to finance a life style that America really cant afford. America once was and still is to some extent, the power house of the world but things are changing rapidly. Nothing lasts forever. Starting with the first world war the British empire collapsed fairly quickly having shone for 200 years, America's demise will be quicker after a shorter reign of power but it doesn't have to be painful if managed correctly. The world community should be just that, partners who need each other.

Lets say I make cars and the price of labor is $50.00 hour.  I can get the same car made in Mexico for $10.00 an hour.  If the US government gave me a tax break to produce the cars so that the net dollar amount was the same I would stay in the USA.  The government would recoup the dollars from the taxes of the laborers and they money they spent in America and not getting welfare.  This is not rocket science.  The only reason the companies move to Mexico is the Mexicans pay the American politicians not to give tax breaks to the auto companies to stay in America.  Or there are tariffs.  I believe the EU imposes a 54% tariff on dairy products.  If I was Trump I'd get them to stop that or else.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Dtrump

[BuaBS]

2 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I predict a  shortv term disaster  on financial markets impacting  any currencies politically associated  with  the  $US. 

 

Well we certainly hope so ! Markets are way overpriced ... even Trump said it.

The FED will raise interest >> market crash>> and blame it on DT.

[Dumbastheycome]

1 minute ago, BuaBS said:

Well we certainly hope so ! Markets are way overpriced ... even Trump said it.

The FED will raise interest >> market crash>> and blame it on DT.

And that  be  of advantage  to  whom? The investors or the  financial  manipulators?

[Dtrump]

5 minutes ago, BuaBS said:

Well we certainly hope so ! Markets are way overpriced ... even Trump said it.

The FED will raise interest >> market crash>> and blame it on DT.

If you know when and or if the Fed will raise interest the Wall Street firms will pay you $500,000.00 per year starting salary.