Retirement visa exiting Thailand for a week

[4MyEgo]

Hi Guys

 

My 1st retirement visa was issued February this year and I am doing my 90 day reporting on or around the 23rd January 2017, at that time I will see if I can do a 2nd retirement visa, so as not to return in February, if not allowed, will take the hour 30 trip again and do it, no problem, will just try and kill two birds with the one stone so to speak.

 

On or around the 23rd April 2017, I then have to do the 90 day reporting, which will take me to or around the 1st June 2017 for another 90 day reporting. 

 

I am taking a short trip overseas on 1 May 2017 and returning on 8 May 2017, is there anything I have to do to let immigration know about me going overseas, or do I just have to report again on the 1st June 2017.

 

From what I have read on TVF, if I am understanding it correctly, is that my 90 days stops when I depart, and the period I am absent is sort of credited and starts again when I enter the country, e.g. in my case add a week which would take me to or around the 8th June to do the 90 day reporting instead of the 1st of June 2017 ? 

 

Appreciate your advice, many thanks in advance.

[Upnotover]

When you return on 8 May that will be day 1 of a new 90 day period.  The old 1 June date becomes irrelevant the day you leave the country.  You don't have to inform anyone you are leaving for your trip.

[4MyEgo]

15 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

When you return on 8 May that will be day 1 of a new 90 day period.  The old 1 June date becomes irrelevant the day you leave the country.  You don't have to inform anyone you are leaving for your trip.

 

Thanks Upnotover, that's better than I expected.

[Upnotover]

22 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Thanks Upnotover, that's better than I expected.

Should have mentioned that you will need a re-entry permit for the trip.  You can get this when you renew your extension in January.

[elviajero]

• You don't need to let immigration know that you're going overseas, but if you want to keep your extension of stay alive you need a re-entry permit. A single entry costs 1,000 baht and you can get it at anytime from your local immigration office or at the airport on the way out.
• The 90 day count does stop when you leave so you can forget about any pending reports. The day you return resets the count to 1. Based on your example you can forget the report on June 1st, and if you re-enter on May 8th your next report would be due, if you don't leave again, on August 5th.
• You won't be given a new report date when you re-enter the country so it will be up to you to keep count and report within the window of the new report date.

[4MyEgo]

41 minutes ago, elviajero said:

• You don't need to let immigration know that you're going overseas, but if you want to keep your extension of stay alive you need a re-entry permit. A single entry costs 1,000 baht and you can get it at anytime from your local immigration office or at the airport on the way out.
• The 90 day count does stop when you leave so you can forget about any pending reports. The day you return resets the count to 1. Based on your example you can forget the report on June 1st, and if you re-enter on May 8th your next report would be due, if you don't leave again, on August 5th.
• You won't be given a new report date when you re-enter the country so it will be up to you to keep count and report within the window of the new report date.

 

Perfect, and date noted in my computer diary, thanks elviajero and all for your replies.

[BritTim]

I would only add one thing to the advice above. When you do your extension, ask immigration if they need a new TM-30 immediately after each return from overseas. Most offices do not require this when returning to the same address as before, but some do.

 

By the way, using the correct terminology helps with understanding your situation. I am pretty sure you do not have a "retirement visa", the nearest equivalent of which is a non immigrant O-A (long stay) visa issued in your home country. (If you do, correct that misinterpretation because it has an important impact on your options.) I deduce that you have a one-year extension of stay on the basis of retirement that you received at an immigration office inside Thailand.

[novo58]

on this subject ...it really is very simple. You are ONLY required to report to an immigration office if you stay in Thailand continuously for MORE THAN 90 DAYS and then you need to report by the 90th day with leeway given each side of that date( 15 days before and 7 days after). You MUST report to your local immigration office for where you are registered as residing.

 

If you dont stay in Thailand for 90 days or more you dont need to report.........end of story.

[laislica]

17 hours ago, BritTim said:

I would only add one thing to the advice above. When you do your extension, ask immigration if they need a new TM-30 immediately after each return from overseas. Most offices do not require this when returning to the same address as before, but some do.

 

By the way, using the correct terminology helps with understanding your situation. I am pretty sure you do not have a "retirement visa", the nearest equivalent of which is a non immigrant O-A (long stay) visa issued in your home country. (If you do, correct that misinterpretation because it has an important impact on your options.) I deduce that you have a one-year extension of stay on the basis of retirement that you received at an immigration office inside Thailand.

 

OK, good point on the TM 30, and yes, terminology is important.

In addition, I think that any long term visa you arrive with will expire but 30 or in some locations 45 days before it expired, it can be extended.

Therefore, if you extend a visa, the old visa is dead and the extension stamp becomes the only item of interest because it gives you the all important Admitted Until (Permission to stay) date.

BTW, when you extend your visa, check the stamp they give you and make sure the date is correct before you leave immigration.

You can work out the required date before you apply.

Also, when re-entering with a re-entry permit on that extension, again check the date on the entry stamp, Admitted Until......

Immigration have been known to make mistakes and that will cause you problems later if not corrected immediately.

 

Thus, if you have an extension stamp and a re-entry permit, leave the country and return,

the "Visa No." on the arrival slip should be your current extension number

and NOT the original visa number.

 

Always read and check the dates before you step away.....

 

[Grubster]

My 90 day report was three weeks prior to my new extension, they did both without my asking and dated my extension three weeks ahead.

[Sophon]

10 hours ago, laislica said:

 

OK, good point on the TM 30, and yes, terminology is important.

In addition, I think that any long term visa you arrive with will expire but 30 or in some locations 45 days before it expired, it can be extended.

Therefore, if you extend a visa, the old visa is dead and the extension stamp becomes the only item of interest because it gives you the all important Admitted Until (Permission to stay) date.

BTW, when you extend your visa, check the stamp they give you and make sure the date is correct before you leave immigration.

You can work out the required date before you apply.

Also, when re-entering with a re-entry permit on that extension, again check the date on the entry stamp, Admitted Until......

Immigration have been known to make mistakes and that will cause you problems later if not corrected immediately.

 

Thus, if you have an extension stamp and a re-entry permit, leave the country and return,

the "Visa No." on the arrival slip should be your current extension number

and NOT the original visa number.

 

Always read and check the dates before you step away.....

 

 

The "Visa number" on the arrival card should be filled in with the re-entry permit number - not the extension number. Most people also write "re-entry permit" next to the field on the form to alert the immigration officer to what he should be looking for.

 

Sophon

[laislica]

10 hours ago, Sophon said:

20 hours ago, laislica said:

 

OK, good point on the TM 30, and yes, terminology is important.

In addition, I think that any long term visa you arrive with will expire but 30 or in some locations 45 days before it expired, it can be extended.

Therefore, if you extend a visa, the old visa is dead and the extension stamp becomes the only item of interest because it gives you the all important Admitted Until (Permission to stay) date.

BTW, when you extend your visa, check the stamp they give you and make sure the date is correct before you leave immigration.

You can work out the required date before you apply.

Also, when re-entering with a re-entry permit on that extension, again check the date on the entry stamp, Admitted Until......

Immigration have been known to make mistakes and that will cause you problems later if not corrected immediately.

 

Thus, if you have an extension stamp and a re-entry permit, leave the country and return,

the "Visa No." on the arrival slip should be your current extension number

and NOT the original visa number.

 

Always read and check the dates before you step away.....

 

 

The "Visa number" on the arrival card should be filled in with the re-entry permit number - not the extension number. Most people also write "re-entry permit" next to the field on the form to alert the immigration officer to what he should be looking for.

 

Thanks for the correction