PM calls for cooperation from pavement vendors

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PM calls for cooperation from pavement vendors

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha stressed the need to strictly regulate illegal parking, road and pavement vending to ensure fairness in the use of public space for all stakeholders in the society.

 

Addressing the nation in his weekly TV programme on Friday, the prime minister said that selling goods and food on pavements or streets are not a Thai traditional way of life or Thai culture as wrongly perceived.

 

Instead the practice stems from ignorance of the problem from officials concerned until it has become a habit for traders to occupy sidewalks or roads to do their business, resulting in bribe-taking by unscrupulous officials and causing inconvenience to pedestrians, he added.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-calls-for-cooperation-from-pavement-vendors/

 

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-11-12

 

[fforest1]

We like street vendors....Yea for street vendors....

[retoohs]

another vote here for street vendors

[mcfish]

No we don't shame he is not targeting Chiang mai where there are plenty of night markets yet still they allow illegal stall holders on the main street, it's painfully slow going and you can't walk on the road because all the Tuk Tuks are illegally parked in the first lane !

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[Enoon]

Mr Tidyman.

Anal retentiveness - Wikipedia

[thai3]

Street vendors are a pain, health and safety risk and are often selling illegal goods. Sooner they are got rid of the better.

[fforest1]

17 minutes ago, thai3 said:

Street vendors are a pain, health and safety risk and are often selling illegal goods. Sooner they are got rid of the better.

 

Yea for illegal goods....

[Brer Fox]

On this occasion the PM is right. These vendors do clutter the footpath. Not only do they prevent safe movement of pedestrians but they show no consideration for motorbike riders who like to use the footpaths rather than the road to ride against the flow of traffic. 

These days in Bangkok walking on a footpath has a safety factor not much different to riding in a minibus or a fully laden truck going down Patong hill.

[johng]

16 minutes ago, thai3 said:

Sooner they are got rid of the better.

 

And all the un-employed people ( ex street vendors etc )   can go back to their villages and grow some rice ?

maybe they can go into   the thriving new industry  of (military) boot polishers ?

[DM07]

As usual in Thailand, there is only black or white: vendors are either totally cool or totally evil!

IF someone would actually get down to regulate sh1t and follow and enforce laws, there can be a way to tackle this problem.

But it will end like the sunbed- situation: from total, mafia- controlled business to ZERO...no middle way, no working things out, just "my way or the high way"!

[Prbkk]

He says nothing about those building owners who have illegally built on sidewalks: many examples of that all over Bangkok.

[mcfish]

They are simply enforcing the law. It's always been there and finally corruption in Thailand is doing a slow U turn but still we have farang now openly supporting corruption and lawlessness.
Unbelievable!

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[johng]

17 minutes ago, mcfish said:

They are simply enforcing the law.

 

When they prevented elections taking place, staged a military coup, tore up the constitution,gave themselves unlimited power and immunity from past present and future transgressions ?

 

but still we have farang  openly supporting them.

 

 

[mcfish]

 
When they prevented elections taking place, staged a military coup, tore up the constitution,gave themselves unlimited power and immunity from past present and future transgressions ?
 
but still we have farang  openly supporting them.
 
 

Of courses. The other option was civil war

There are a thousand Thai bashers here that would love to see that.

As far as I'm concerned I hope the military never lose power and keep making sweeping reforms

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[yellowboat]

1 hour ago, mcfish said:

They are simply enforcing the law.

Really ?  Cannot remember in the last 35 years that selling food on the sidewalk in Bangkok was anything other than customary.  If a law is not enforced in 35 years, is it still a law ?  What a bunch of wet blankets .

[mcfish]

Really ?  Cannot remember in the last 35 years that selling food on the sidewalk in Bangkok was anything other than customary.  If a law is not enforced in 35 years, is it still a law ?  What a bunch of wet blankets .

It's not really about the food, a few carts here and there but it's about the stall holders from Nana to asoke that choked foot traffic selling dildos and everything pirated.
Anyway this topic has been done to death. It's over now they can go back to scrubbing buffalo instead of bribing the bib, that's 2 birds killed with the one stone!


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[yellowboat]

1 minute ago, mcfish said:

It's not really about the food, a few carts here and there but it's about the stall holders from Nana to asoke that choked foot traffic selling dildos and everything pirated.
Anyway this topic has been done to death. It's over now they can go back to scrubbing buffalo instead of bribing the bib, that's 2 birds killed with the one stone!


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Oh, remembering buying a lamp on the corner of Sukhimvit and Asok years ago with a girl friend who bought dresses.  Yes, it is a pain to walk in that area, but those people actually did have viable businesses.  Just shutting them down is not fair to them and their suppliers. 

[mcfish]

Oh, remembering buying a lamp on the corner of Sukhimvit and Asok years ago with a girl friend who bought dresses.  Yes, it is a pain to walk in that area, but those people actually did have viable businesses.  Just shutting them down is not fair to them and their suppliers. 

There own greed bought them down. If they had of stuck with legitimate trinkets and non pirated non porn items on one side of the foot path then maybe they had a few more years but I strongly suspect the bibs greed had a lot to do with that.

End of the day Bangkok/Thailand Is the only developing country amongst even 3rd world countries that was allowing it. Sooner or later it had to end

There Is a park halfway between asoke and nana that would accommodate them all and make a great night market but it seems to be under lock and key

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[yellowboat]

6 minutes ago, mcfish said:

There Is a park halfway between asoke and nana that would accommodate them all and make a great night market but it seems to be under lock and key

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And why is that ?   Why is there a lock and where is the key ?

 

Seems CP is selling on the sidewalk all over Asia in front of their offices or selling to those who sell.  The junta has failed at coming up with a solution.  A solution or a non solution that is working in Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Khao San and Hat Yai.  Why is it so hard to do what is commonly Thai and Bangkok ?

[mcfish]

And why is that ?   Why is there a lock and where is the key ?
 
Seems CP is selling on the sidewalk all over Asia in front of their offices or selling to those who sell.  The junta has failed at coming up with a solution.  A solution or a non solution that is working in Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Khao San and Hat Yai.  Why is it so hard to do what is commonly Thai and Bangkok ?

My understanding is that the Park on sukhumvit is gated and privately owned but was donated for use to the city.
Chang mai is a mess. I just arrived from there and the main street has just enough room for one person to pass at a time. Crazy because there are plenty of night markets just a few minutes away. It's actually more congested than sukhumvit Bangkok was

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[yellowboat]

1 hour ago, mcfish said:

As far as I'm concerned I hope the military never lose power and keep making sweeping reforms

Ah fish, that is so sad.   Military governments in the modern world rarely reform anything.  They in fact are what get reformed usually.  Can't believe you are taking refuge in the wrong of the current government. 

 

"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire  .  Guess you are safe then. 

[Caveat Emptor]

1 hour ago, mcfish said:

Of courses. The other option was civil war

There are a thousand Thai bashers here that would love to see that.

As far as I'm concerned I hope the military never lose power and keep making sweeping reforms

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Really, a thousand Thai bashers here who would love to see a civil war ?

Ridiculous statement and why did you stop at one thousand as more would have made your baiting claim sound so much emphatic ?

I take it you know all these civil war mongers personally ?

[mcfish]

Really, a thousand Thai bashers here who would love to see a civil war ?
Ridiculous statement and why did you stop at one thousand as more would have made your baiting claim sound so much emphatic ?
I take it you know all these civil war mongers personally ?

Thai bashers want to see Thailand implode, tourism suffer, the baht and real estate sector destroyed. Civil war would be the ultimate vehicle so yeah makes sense to me.


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[mcfish]

Ah fish, that is so sad.   Military governments in the modern world rarely reform anything.  They in fact are what get reformed usually.  Can't believe you are taking refuge in the wrong of the current government. 
 
"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire  .  Guess you are safe then. 

We'll I have seen more reform in this military reign than I have in the last 10 years of corrupt politicians. That's undeniable fact

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[yellowboat]

4 minutes ago, mcfish said:

That's undeniable fact

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If you are referring to bike lanes and beach chairs, then you and the military are unquestionably right.  If you are referring to universal suffrage, freedom of speech and the basic questioning of authority, than you are safe according to Voltaire.  A44 is an abomination and has done little good.  But please educate us "Bashers" as to how usurping power from an elected government has provided sweeping and undeniably long lasting changes for the Thai people ?  

[mcfish]

If you are referring to bike lanes and beach chairs, then you and the military are unquestionably right.  If you are referring to universal suffrage, freedom of speech and the basic questioning of authority, than you are safe according to Voltaire.  A44 is an abomination and has done little good.  But please educate us "Bashers" as to how usurping power from an elected government has provided sweeping and undeniably long lasting changes for the Thai people ?  

More than that. Add the killing of corruption on sukhumvit Bangkok by removing the stall holders and the bib they sponsored also getting rid of the boats and Mafia at the pier in pattya plus much more. Banning zero dollar tour illegals in pattya and so on...

These things never would have changed in the next 10 years!

Most tourist are not even aware aware there is a military regime. Restrictions on Freedom of speech well of course that's the short term solution and thats why there was a coupe in the first place.

Like all the other coups it will dissolved in time, I only hope the corruption doesn't reverse All the good work but not holding my breath

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[Ceruhe]

Wasn't it news about a month or so ago that street vendors have successfully been driven away? lol

[chainarong]

4 hours ago, johng said:

 

And all the un-employed people ( ex street vendors etc )   can go back to their villages and grow some rice ?

maybe they can go into   the thriving new industry  of (military) boot polishers ?

I often think about these vendors and what they are doing now,  their little enterprises have been taken away , a typical Thai knee jerk reaction, why didn't they organize an alternative

[Moonmoon]

5 hours ago, Brer Fox said:

On this occasion the PM is right. These vendors do clutter the footpath. Not only do they prevent safe movement of pedestrians but they show no consideration for motorbike riders who like to use the footpaths rather than the road to ride against the flow of traffic. 

These days in Bangkok walking on a footpath has a safety factor not much different to riding in a minibus or a fully laden truck going down Patong hill.

I agree even if i dont agree with the coup n junta. this is 1 good thing that has happen since he took over. the streets with night mrkets r cleaner n theres more room for pedestrian to walk in safety. the traffic is much better after the roads r freed up. the street vendors r being relocated as well. there r many many night train markets being newly opened all over bkk as well. 

 

The payment of bribes to mafia is also real. who gives the authority to mafia to collect money for a space they dont own? 

 

Even in chinatown yaowarat, the police r coming down hard on illegal parking at night for the night markets. they will wheel clamp your vehicle if u park illegally. it used to be cars will park by the road out all 3 lanes creating a jam from midnight. now u have to find proper parking spaces which r available all around in chinatown. 

 

Chinatown now from midnight is less jam with cars n its a good change.

 

Its a good thing n the police r enforcing the traffic rules in the right way n they take no bribes, how do i know, i experienced it 1st hand. just obey the traffic rules n u be alright.

 

Edited November 12, 2016 by Moonmoon

[sandemara]

I fear mcfish is one sick guppy.