The anti-Trump resistance takes shape: 'Government's supposed to fear us'

[F4UCorsair]

39 minutes ago, Watchout4 said:

yep , he legally won . You can be very proud of yourselves . Just by myself , I think that this will be the most dangerous American presidency for the world , ever .

he's an thin - skinned egomaniac , who is trying to surpress the media and reacts paranoid towards anything and anybody remotely opposing him . He's trying to seclude his country and he has control over nuclear weapons , which everybody is just hoping not even he's crazy enough to use them . Kim - Jon Trump ?

 

I wondered how long it would take for the nuclear weapons threat to rear its ugly head.

 

Does anybody realistically think that the President can launch a nuclear weapon as he chooses??   It seems so.

 

There would be concurrence required of many prior to it being put to the President, and then, AND ONLY THEN, would that action be taken.   He cannot just launch nuclear weapons at will, nor authorize such action without numerous safeguards being satisfied.

 

The gets more ridiculous by the minute.

[F4UCorsair]

5 minutes ago, ClutchClark said:

 

There would have been some grumbling at the morning coffee break.

 

Republicans are too busy working for a living to protest.

 

How many street protests took place with the passage of the ACA?

 

Yep, these are the welfare dependent making the noise, and their welfare payments could be under threat.  Throw into the mix a few intellectuals/professionals, who also earn megabucks, but have the capacity to incorporate, and pay sfa tax, preaching that the rest of us should pay more to help out the "poor".

 

The best/only way to help the poor is to not be one of the poor.   Many are poor because they choose to be that way, work is not for them when they can suck on the public purse.

[ClutchClark]

12 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

 

 

US and Canada come to mind. 

 

That is because Americans are law-abiding citizens and do not sneak into Canada by the millions annually. 

 

They do not sneak large quantities of drugs into Canada. 

 

They do not exploit the Canadian Welfare system. 

 

They do stop and report at Customs and follow the Laws of the Land.

 

But this sure looks like fencing to me:

 

 

Edited November 22, 2016 by ClutchClark

[F4UCorsair]

The "elite" holding power??   Would you prefer a bunch of down and out, welfare dependent nobodies, running the country??  That would be a sure path to ruin, in short time.

 

Most who have achieved intellectual and economic "elitism" have done so after years of damned hard work. Those who haven't, to varying degrees, don't choose to put in the years of hard slog, and that's their choice, but don't condemn those who do make that choice and are prepared to dedicate their lives to their cause, for whatever reasons.

 

The "elite" employ, buy, travel, etc., so circulate the money, building companies,  creating jobs, etc.   

 

I know who I'd prefer to have running the country.

Edited November 22, 2016 by F4UCorsair

[Rob13]

8 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

The "elite" employ, buy, travel, etc., so circulate the money, building companies,  creating jobs, etc.   

 

 

Bit narrrow thinking there. The jobs the elites create begin to be more menial labor with low pay and benfits while the bulk of money being circulated passes between the elites.  

[F4UCorsair]

46 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

You gotta wonder what the protests would have been like if Hilary had won. 

 

 

There would have been none.  As ClutchClark said in an earlier post, there would have been a bit of grumbling around the coffee machine, and back to work.

 

Republican supporters are busy at work.   It's the welfare dependent left who have time for street protests..

[daveAustin]

The whinge-a-thon continues. Get over yourselves, chaps. Your country is a bit of a mess, why not pool together and do something about it? Far too many people have their hand out, thinking the country owes them something -- for starters, the douchebags on the streets need to grow up, start working and put some money into the coffers.

[Opl]

7 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

There would have been none.  As ClutchClark said in an earlier post, there would have been a bit of grumbling around the coffee machine, and back to work.

 

Republican supporters are busy at work.   It's the welfare dependent left who have time for street protests..

 

Let's remind 2012 : "Donald Trump Freaks Out on Twitter After Obama Wins Election"

 many more collectibles : http://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-reacts-to-election/#NKQi32GEgkqD

Follow

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔ @realDonaldTrump

We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!

5:29 AM - 7 Nov 2012

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔ @realDonaldTrump

Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.

5:30 AM - 7 Nov 2012

Follow

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔ @realDonaldTrump

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

5:45 AM - 7 Nov 2012

 

 

[F4UCorsair]

Just now, Opl said:

 

Let's remind 2012 : "Donald Trump Freaks Out on Twitter After Obama Wins Election"

 many more collectibles : http://mashable.com/2012/11/06/trump-reacts-to-election/#NKQi32GEgkqD

Follow

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔ @realDonaldTrump

We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!

5:29 AM - 7 Nov 2012

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔ @realDonaldTrump

Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.

5:30 AM - 7 Nov 2012

Follow

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔ @realDonaldTrump

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

5:45 AM - 7 Nov 2012

 

 

 

 

Lots of rhetoric, but what ACTUALLY happened??

[DriveByTrucker]

20 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

The "elite" holding power??   Would you prefer a bunch of down and out, welfare dependent nobodies, running the country??  That would be a sure path to ruin, in short time.

 

Most who have achieved intellectual and economic "elitism" have done so after years of damned hard work. Those who haven't, to varying degrees, don't choose to put in the years of hard slog, and that's their choice, but don't condemn those who do make that choice and are prepared to dedicate their lives to their cause, for whatever reasons.

 

The "elite" employ, buy, travel, etc., so circulate the money, building companies,  creating jobs, etc.   

 

I know who I'd prefer to have running the country.

 

So one of the more important campaign programs of Trump ie getting rid of the DC elites is not what you are supporting.

So what are the programs of Trump you do support? Jobs, affordable healthcare, killing trade deals, fixing the infrastructure, building hospitals and schools, free education, you know, all these socialist ideals? I bet not! Or do you maybe support the ban on Muslims and "building the wall"? More likely, right? Or do you just think Trump is a hero because of his utter misogynistic behavior?

[Opl]

2 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

Lots of rhetoric, but what ACTUALLY happened??

 

Exactly, the mains concern with D.Trump is his poisonous rhethoric.

  

[NumbNut]

9 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

That is because Americans are law-abiding citizens and do not sneak into Canada by the millions annually. 

 

They do not sneak large quantities of drugs into Canada. 

 

They do not exploit the Canadian Welfare system. <snip>

 

 

Judging by the amount of spam mail I get promising 'Cheap Canadian Meds' Americans most certainly do sneak OUT large quantities of drugs.

 

And I would count that as a most definite exploitation of the Canadian Welfare system if these drugs are are partially subsidized by the Canadian taxpayer.

Edited November 22, 2016 by metisdead
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[DriveByTrucker]

2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

There would have been some grumbling at the morning coffee break.

 

Republicans are too busy working for a living to protest.

 

How many street protests took place with the passage of the ACA?

 

Republicans are maybe too busy working, but a very large chunk of the Trump voters aren't. Thats because they simply don't have work. It's clear you are conveniently overlooking the people who actually made Trump win the election? Or is this just ignorance? My bet is that that is exactly what Trump will do too. Conveniently ignoring the people who voted for him because he doesn't give a sh*t about the American people!

 

And with grumbling at the coffee break I trust you mean the "patriots" with assault riffles trying to solve the "RIGGED SYSTEM".

Edited November 22, 2016 by DriveByTrucker

[Jingthing]

You gotta wonder what the protests would have been like if Hilary had won. 

A big difference would have been the republicans still would have controlled the house and probably the senate too.

[Morch]

14 hours ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

People are blaming Trump for everything while forgetting that he does not become President until January 20th.  Forget both Hilary's and Trump's rhetoric during the campaigning and give the guy a chance.  If things go belly-up in the first few months, then you can start to complain.

 

Winning candidates are not accountable for statements and promises made on the campaign trail? That's an quite an interesting bit of political science. As for "give the guy a chance" - given many were directly opposed to his views before he won, why would they be expected to give him a chance post-elections? The fact that he won does not cancel the views of those who oppose him.

[elgordo38]

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Too busy sitting on him on a baht bus ... he wouldn't yield.

Sitting on his butt in the baht bus. Wish we had a baht bus in Chiang Mai. Oh well Uber has come to town. Its like making a decision between job destruction (Uber) vs the surly taxi Mafia. I am rather surprised that the Taxi Mafia has not been more vocal its not like them to take something like this sitting down. Out of pure frustration with the old offerings of transportation maybe I will give Uber a try. 

[Morch]

13 hours ago, elgordo38 said:

Follows in the same vein as Brexit. The next day people in America woke and said "My God What Have I Done" Oh well the next four years should be exiting. If the Donald does not deliver its goodbye to all 3 houses forever. And then there is this.  The assassination of Julius Caesar was the result of a conspiracy by many Republican senators. Funny how Trump seems to resemble Caesar. 

 

I head Julius Caesar's lawyers are contemplating a huge defamation lawsuit.  

Edited November 22, 2016 by Morch

[elgordo38]

Just now, Morch said:

 

I head Julius Caesar's lawyers are contemplating a huge defamation law suit.  

What number is that I have lost track he has filed so many. Bill Maher stated on his show that the Donald zeroed in on him for something. When your a sitting president can you still file a defamation lawsuit or is it still/just considered free speech?

[Morch]

12 hours ago, Strange said:

 

The era when nobody was called a racist or hateful during a simple debate. 

 

It makes any logical discussion impossible. 

 

Not much into labeling, but how does one reference racism without calling it racist?

I'm not talking about slinging it at every available opportunity, which may have been what you meant by "simple debate", though.

[JHolmesJr]

3 hours ago, daveAustin said:

or starters, the douchebags on the streets need to grow up, start working …..

 

they are working…that is their job.

[Morch]

7 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

What number is that I have lost track he has filed so many. Bill Maher stated on his show that the Donald zeroed in on him for something. When your a sitting president can you still file a defamation lawsuit or is it still/just considered free speech?

 

Quote

“Can a magician kill a man by magic?” Lord Wellington asked Strange.
Strange frowned. He seemed to dislike the question. “I suppose a magician might,” he admitted, “but a gentleman never could.”

― Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell

 

[dick dasterdly]

30 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Winning candidates are not accountable for statements and promises made on the campaign trail? That's an quite an interesting bit of political science. As for "give the guy a chance" - given many were directly opposed to his views before he won, why would they be expected to give him a chance post-elections? The fact that he won does not cancel the views of those who oppose him.

Re. the first sentence, I don't know how often campaign promises have been carried out in the US - but in the UK campaign promises are generally considered (by politicians) to be a 'possibility' rather than a promise, once elected.....

[dick dasterdly]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Not much into labeling, but how does one reference racism without calling it racist?

I'm not talking about slinging it at every available opportunity, which may have been what you meant by "simple debate", though.

I think the problem is that anyone saying that immigration is a problem, is labeled a racist.

[Morch]

3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

The "elite" holding power??   Would you prefer a bunch of down and out, welfare dependent nobodies, running the country??  That would be a sure path to ruin, in short time.

 

Most who have achieved intellectual and economic "elitism" have done so after years of damned hard work. Those who haven't, to varying degrees, don't choose to put in the years of hard slog, and that's their choice, but don't condemn those who do make that choice and are prepared to dedicate their lives to their cause, for whatever reasons.

 

The "elite" employ, buy, travel, etc., so circulate the money, building companies,  creating jobs, etc.   

 

I know who I'd prefer to have running the country.

 

And then there's "elites" born right into it. Like Trump.

Trickle down economics again? No thanks.

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Re. the first sentence, I don't know how often campaign promises have been carried out in the US - but in the UK campaign promises are generally considered (by politicians) to be a 'possibility' rather than a promise, once elected.....

 

But they are never ever forgotten, and no one expects the opposition to ignore them.

[dick dasterdly]

Just now, Morch said:

 

But they are never ever forgotten, and no one expects the opposition to ignore them.

Unfortunately (in my experience) the campaign promises are v quickly forgotten!

 

Mind you, in this case - that's probably a good thing to a certain extent .

[Morch]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

I think the problem is that anyone saying that immigration is a problem, is labeled a racist.

 

Fair enough, although I do not think it is all that encompassing. But then there's also a fair amount of actual racist views expressed when discussing immigration.

[Morch]

3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

There would have been none.  As ClutchClark said in an earlier post, there would have been a bit of grumbling around the coffee machine, and back to work.

 

Republican supporters are busy at work.   It's the welfare dependent left who have time for street protests..

 

One of the things highlighted by Trump and his supporters during the elections campaign was the high attendance at his rallies. That was described as people feeling strongly about things. No issues raised with how they were making time for it. How are the current protests different?

[Morch]

3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

Lots of rhetoric, but what ACTUALLY happened??

 

This seems to characterize a lot of Trump's statements.

Edited November 22, 2016 by Morch

[dick dasterdly]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

One of the things highlighted by Trump and his supporters during the elections campaign was the high attendance at his rallies. That was described as people feeling strongly about things. No issues raised with how they were making time for it. How are the current protests different?

I'm assuming that the rallies didn't go on for many days?

 

Not that it matters as I'm assuming (admittedly, never a good idea!) that the protesters are taking a day's holiday every now and again.  Apart from the students of course, for whom it is far easier to take a few days 'off'.