jimmyyy Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 TIT up to them. Toms don't bother me, if one shows up at a party, better have his ass at the grill with the boys. If she don't i give em hell. 5555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Shawn0000 said: Those are some crazy assumptions! You recon the Tom gets no gratification from playing with a beautiful girl? And you recon the dee has no desire to touch just because the Tom is too hung up about her female body to let her? Not assumptions at all. In my time here I employed dozens of girls, who had some form of relationship with a tom at some stage in their life. Many confided in me about their experience, and once they managed to get away from the relationship {which is not easy due to the threats of violence), almost all of them said they would never get involved with one again. You can also find info on Google, he's your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, possum1931 said: I don't think anything could ever make me "turn homosexual", I cannot even stand a man touching me, I have even had a Thai man touch my arm occasionally, and I pull away immediately. Yes. That's my point. We have so many ignorant people on this thread trying to explain a women being lesbian by saying that they must have had bad experiences with men. Yet, when asked if bad experiences can make them homosexuals, they largely disappear. What is wrong with these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 22 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: Not assumptions at all. In my time here I employed dozens of girls, who had some form of relationship with a tom at some stage in their life. Many confided in me about their experience, and once they managed to get away from the relationship {which is not easy due to the threats of violence), almost all of them said they would never get involved with one again. You can also find info on Google, he's your friend. What has any of that got to do with your original two claims? I just had a look on Google and it would seem that I am more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 hours ago, possum1931 said: I don't think anything could ever make me "turn homosexual", I cannot even stand a man touching me, I have even had a Thai man touch my arm occasionally, and I pull away immediately. That's called "Homophobic " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Mmm Think this thread has become really tacky: Cant let a man touch me! ( anything to do with the OP?) A high percentage of gay people were molested as children. Like the Tom next door- as if she were some strange alien An English expression ' horses for courses' - human sexual expression comes in many many different forms- just accept it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said: What has any of that got to do with your original two claims ? I just had a look on Google and it would seem that I am more accurate. You seem to think you are right on everything; sorry to disappoint you, but you are normally wrong, as again in this case. It must be the Irish blood 'to be sure !' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 53 minutes ago, Tony125 said: That's called "Homophobic " Well in that case I am homophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 12 hours ago, Berkshire said: So using your logic, if you were living somewhere that had no desirable females (or none will have you), what would you do? Switch to men? Apparently it happens in jail and when they're out they are back to women.Guess Mrs Palmer gets boring after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 minute ago, louse1953 said: Apparently it happens in jail and when they're out they are back to women.Guess Mrs Palmer gets boring after a while. If you're talking about prison rape, these guys didn't turn gay. It's a power/domineering thing. Really has nothing to do with sexuality. And the guys taking it...well, let's just say they didn't have much of a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 3 hours ago, The Dark Lord said: Can't see there would be much difference. Presumably Pus*y would be high on the menu so no change there except as a female you would have a bit more of a clue what the f***k makes them dance. then you have all the hassle of the 30 day reporting to Dr Tampax and all the psychosis that that event creates. then later on you have the menaupause which will really cook your goose and all of that whilst earning less than a man. not for me thanks The monthly oil change doesn't take that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Thaiwrath said: You seem to think you are right on everything; sorry to disappoint you, but you are normally wrong, as again in this case. It must be the Irish blood 'to be sure !' You are projecting. Did you think to follow your own advice and try Google? And who is Irish, what on earth was that little one about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 hours ago, The Dark Lord said: Can't see there would be much difference. Presumably Pus*y would be high on the menu so no change there except as a female you would have a bit more of a clue what the f***k makes them dance. then you have all the hassle of the 30 day reporting to Dr Tampax and all the psychosis that that event creates. then later on you have the menaupause which will really cook your goose and all of that whilst earning less than a man. not for me thanks Thank you for your detailed analysis. Your wisdom regarding femininity is profound. Perhaps the Dark Lord is going through male menopause himself and thus his negativity emerges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimo Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 In my next adult life I would like to come back as a Thai Tom and 40kgs lighter. Many new doors to open and opportunities to explore. Be careful what you wish for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhream Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Live and let live. I had two girlfriends both go into same sex relationships right after me, they were not Toms, neither were the new partners. They were both Singaporean, and they both went to the same school together, which incidentally, also educated Annabel Chong, funny old world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I am left laughing. Maybe I could start a thread on why so many expat homophobics or gender identity opinionists need to deride the choice of others when in effect it does not affect themselves in issues other than mainstream ? I have a Thai sister in law who has been in a harmonious relationship with a "tom" for 18 years. I have friends and relations who have never achieved same success in even a conventional gender relationship. As a person who is fixedley "straight" I have long since learned to acknowledge what is in this respect with the only philosophical proviso being that such are genuinely secure in their social position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 On 11/29/2016 at 7:51 PM, GuiseppeD said: Happy for my wife to take up a tom and give me some peace. If the misses went with another man . ie brother you would loose face , not up to the task , etc . Tom is more acceptable , friends .555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I don't know, but here in the prathoum school we have toms and katoys at the age of 6 -7. Thus no real social reason. On the other hand, however, the elder generation; the hormones are working, but because of some reasons some woman simply cannot find a partner. Especially not serious one. Thus they are looking for it in an another drawer. A lot of young girls cannot find a partner, jus because their biological trap work insufficiently but they are matured already.... Some of these girls say that this type of sex is safe and they do not have to be afraid of letting alone with a newborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSJPC Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 what the hell is a "tom"???...do u mean a tomboy?...lesbian?...and is it a question or a statement???...do u not know how to use a question mark?????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhream Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, DSJPC said: what the hell is a "tom"???...do u mean a tomboy?...lesbian?...and is it a question or a statement???...do u not know how to use a question mark?????????????? Tom is a common word in Thailand used by all to describe 'butch' lesbians. Dee is the lady partner of a Tom. I have no idea about the other guys skill level in punctuation, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Brer Fox said: Thank you for your detailed analysis. Your wisdom regarding femininity is profound. Perhaps the Dark Lord is going through male menopause himself and thus his negativity emerges. Dear Brer Fox (Brother Fox). Sadly you missed my attempt at levity.and chose to treat it as negativity. I have passed the the male menopause pretty successfully thank you. What is more pertinent is that I did so without ever having to launch into a personal attack on someone when I did not catch the meaning of something they said. perhaps you could clarify for those of us who do not carry hyper inflated opinions on the correctness of our lofty ideals in life what the differences in what a Tom would target compared with a normal heterosexual male? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Why worry? Stand in the wardrobe with a six pack (of beer) and a pizza, and WATCH!! Enjoy. Edited November 30, 2016 by F4UCorsair spellcheck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 11 hours ago, UPDEHSOI said: OH GROAAANNN! They can't get any worse than this ( can they? ) I think I'll go have a little lay down. Yes they can! So the Tom says to her girlfriend "I want to be frank with you," to which the girlfriend replied "you're always Frank, tonight it's my turn!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordguy61mi Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 This is a Tom that worked at a restaurant my girl used to work at. Just as a reference for those asking. The haircut will usually tip you off along with the boy clothes they wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saastrajaa Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 4 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: Why worry? Stand in the wardrobe with a six pack (of beer) and a pizza, and WATCH!! Enjoy. I swear, you drooling yahoos give all us males a bad name. And you complain about women thinking we're all dense idiots? Let's put it in terms that you can (maybe) understand. You consider yourself "heterosexual," right? So how would you like it if a gay male stood there staring at you having sex with a woman? I'm sure it would really make the experience so much more exciting for you, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemguy Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Shot said: If they are young and hot, can we get some pics please. Usually...but not always one of them is butch looking and the other is pretty. The butch looking one plays the more manly role and the pretty one plays the more feminine role...as would be expected...but not always. Both of them being women they understand one another far more than any man would understand them while the butch girl will shield and save the pretty from the bad men that she could otherwise be preyed upon by while "their" love is a special kind of love that no man could ever provide...lol And if the butch one is not attracting any attention from men and not getting any loving then many will give up on their interest in men and turn to pursuing another women and find solace in their relationship and satisfaction in the sexual aspect of the relationship Meantime the "kinky sex" aspect of a lesbian affair is satisfying for a lot of the women, as that old saying goes: Do not knock it, until you try it...lol Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryinTH Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 In thai girls eyes, a tom is not a threat to them. A men on the other hand... you get my point. Same thing if you are gay and have lots of female friends, that is because you're not a threat to them. Threat not in terms of rapist or some crazy stuff but threat in terms of making any moves on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Saastrajaa said: I swear, you itrooling yahoos give all us males a bad name. And you complain about women thinking we're all dense idiots? Let's put it in terms that you can (maybe) understand. You consider yourself "heterosexual," right? So how would you like it if a gay male stood there staring at you having sex with a woman? I'm sure it would really make the experience so much more exciting for you, right? Maybe I didn't dumb It down sufficiently for you, although one would have thought the 'refreshments' would have been a clue?? You appear to be the only one who has taken It seriously and come back full of fire. I'll make It easy for you, just In case the 'six pack and pizza' wasn't a blunt enough hint. IT WAS A JOKE!!! Incidentally your analogy/ comparison wasn't a valid one. Did you mrean a heteroserxual woman (wife) watching two men having sex? Unable to edit typos Edited December 1, 2016 by F4UCorsair edit attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhd Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 thank the soy industry for that and warming plastic fake foods in microwaves hormones overload, makes boys think they are "ladies" lol and girls turn into boy like things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSJPC Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 11 hours ago, dhream said: Tom is a common word in Thailand used by all to describe 'butch' lesbians. Dee is the lady partner of a Tom. I have no idea about the other guys skill level in punctuation, sorry. I never heard the word "Tom", and I been in Thailand off and on since 1967!!!...must be a "cool" term, like Pats and Swampy and Sookie, for those with baseball caps on backwards and wearing their jeans slung low and showing their ass-crack!!!...no thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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