5 hours ago, jlwilliamsjr18 said:

Betcha...it's more than 50%

It's just too easy to take this route.

Betcha...it's more than 60 per cent.

5 hours ago, chuang said:

I got my PhD from Kao San Uni....

What a coincidence that's where I got my Nobel Prize - and TEFL.

3 hours ago, dru2 said:

1 hour ago, JAG said:

 

 

And spwell! 

 

Sorry, I know. Bl**dy predictive text...

Blame it on the text!? Not the boogey!?

7 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

i'd imagine for the right price a fake original degree from an accredited institution comes with the appropriate university records and transcripts direct from the original source.

Most Western, and most good Thai Universities, would not put their accreditation in jeopardy and most Western countries don't have a culture that includes the level of corruption for the personnel at a school to issue a fake degree.  

 

Is it possible?   Probably, but I would think that cost would be enormous and I can't imagine what would warrant paying a huge amount for a fake degree.   

 

Unlike Thailand, in Western countries, the penalty and punishment for being involved in something like this is pretty stiff.  

Students warned of buying fake diplomas from fraudsters

 

 

BANGKOK: -- The Ministry of Education has recently sought help from the Ministry of Digital for Economy and Society to track down a fraudulent gang which sells fake diplomas, certificates and degrees on the social media.

 

Education permanent secretary Chaipruek Serirak said on Thursday that he found out from a Facebook page offering to sell diplomas for Mathayom 3 up to post-graduate education for prices ranging from 2,500-7,000 baht with a guarantee that the documents can be used as reference to apply for jobs and the required diplomas will be mailed to the buyers.

 

He said he then sought help from DE Ministry which informed him later on that the Facebook page had been removed. The gang, he added, would open new website to sell the fake diplomas and, shortly afterward, closed it down.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/students-warned-of-buying-fake-diplomas-from-fraudsters/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-12-09

Still have the original outlet area to go to.  Khao San Road. 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Education permanent secretary Chaipruek Serirak said on Thursday that he found out from a Facebook page offering to sell diplomas

For further education and qualification the secretary may consider consulting any tuk tuk driver to drag him from his face book research to the places where he can buy faked diplomas, degrees, etc. and hopefully the driver knows the way to bring him back from the outskirts of the universe to planet Thailand.

thank goodness none of this ever occurs amoungst any of the candidates or prior certificants for the Thai Teachers License. 

the one that used to require 2 weeks of training to be a teacher, and now is a 3 day course.  that one.

 

Edited December 9, 20169 yr by maewang99

Nothing new, been going on for years. Some years ago my stepdaughter was working in a prestigious cold and diamond shop. The boss told her to get (buy) a certificate from an University (address provided) so he could hang it on the wall in back of the counter. If not she could pack up, which she did.

Much better to buy real diplomas from fraudsters I would imagine.

If I were immigration office I would check online degrees. Most of them are fake. 

You can be a teacher in 3 days and get a 120-hour TEFL certificate. IIs there anybody with common sense believes that it is possible? If not, not only the online fraudster are to be blamed, but the "student" too . Master degree in a day ?

Many fake degrees are built on existing universities, but the university does not know they have online courses. Some of these hookers open email box even, but they do not answer to any inquiries. 

They pinch something from those who own real degrees. They depreciate the value of a degree, many cases cost serious money.

It is something like to step in behind you in a revolving door and step out before you.

It is unfair and absolutely immoral. 

 

What  would  you say when your kid come back from his school saying his teacher is a blistering?

I am not blindfolded by the degrees. I saw "professionals" with the real diploma but were not able and the opposite too, but cannot accept immoral advantages.

 

 

 

What I find absolutely terrifying is that some of these fake qualifications are used to obtain positions such as airline pilot ! Several years ago there was an incident involving an indian aeroplane, and a subsequent examination found that 40% of the pilots were flying with forged credentials ! Happens in all countries, just ask Leonardo deCaprio :)

 

 

On 12/8/2016 at 7:45 AM, digibum said:

Let's just be honest, fake or real, what's the difference in Thailand?  

 

I mean, you get someone with a four year university degree in English language who can't speak, read, or write it.  Why not just buy the degree and save four years of your life?  

 

 

Indeed, why would anyone want to waste four years hanging about an educational establishment with thousands of women aged 18-22? Crazy, eh?

Probably cheaper to buy the real thing.

Years ago, I taught at a Thai university and we spent a lot of time checking references and qualifications. One applicant helped us, though. He came to the interview and brought a degree certificate from 'Edinburg University.'

As long as they are not selling fake "pilot licences" as they did for Indian Airways a few years ago

In my experience, the real degrees from many Thai universities are not worth much more than the paper they're printed on. So the minimal damage caused by the fakes should be treated as a minor infraction.

2 hours ago, seahorse said:

 

 

Indeed, why would anyone want to waste four years hanging about an educational establishment with thousands of women aged 18-22? Crazy, eh?

 

Uhm, you know you can hang out with those women without going to school too, right?  

I think there are two main groups here.  

One; those who have a real degree. They are defending the degree because they studied  not only paid for it. Whatever degree it is from whatever sources, students had to make efforts to get a degree.

Two; who does not have or having fake diplomas. These are trying to minimalize the value of a real degree. 

Third; not interested at all 

I am not Math teacher, just teaching without degree 55555555

Edited December 9, 20169 yr by Honthy

2 hours ago, seahorse said:

 

 

Indeed, why would anyone want to waste four years hanging about an educational establishment with thousands of women aged 18-22? Crazy, eh?

 

usually the males are the same age and not elderly salivating expats

On 12/8/2016 at 7:40 AM, meatboy said:

try and get a job outside thailand with an ORIGINAL.

i dont understand your coment. should 'with' be replaced 'without'?

2 minutes ago, davidst01 said:

i dont understand your coment. should 'with' be replaced 'without'?

 

 

it means many real thai degrees are not held in high esteem internationally

2 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

 

it means many real thai degrees are not held in high esteem internationally

no I think your wrong and Im correct based on the context of OP's story. 

I am still waiting for my lifetime of learning degree must be in the mails. Do they award that post humorously??

Fake degrees, fake girls, fake computers, fake friends, fake leaders, fake fake, fake..  oh boy. 

 

            What's not fake here? 

Does that means'' we cant do anything against them they are too high conected.,but we will do you...'' if youre not... obviously

because that' 2 years i want to close a facebook ,i didnt find how.

10 hours ago, khwaibah said:

Still have the original outlet area to go to.  Khao San Road. 

 

 

Still? Are you sure? All these are dated years ago. Anyone going to the area and able to ascertain if it's still going on? I'd guess it is, but Thailand is the Land of Crackdowns these days......

Inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. 

Don't worry , long time Thai watchers would remember when they made it a requirement to be a member of parliament you had to have a degree and just how many came up with fake degree's , things haven't changed at all...........................................

12 hours ago, khwaibah said:

Still have the original outlet area to go to.  Khao San Road. 

 

These are all rather easy to see they are fake--as any simple check of the id number will show. It is especially difficult to use fake degrees--if the employer even checks--because most academic sources and informed employers want transcripts of the student's grades and those transcripts need to be mailed in sealed envelopes directly to the prospective employer from the university. However, enterprising diploma mills online not only sell the fake diplomas, but for an additional price will answer inquiries and send transcripts.