On 21/12/2559 at 7:15 AM, craigt3365 said:

Since these donations can be written off your taxes, I'm against it.  Also, it's very political as you get to meet with the president. 

Money goes to do good things. And they pay no taxes anyway.

1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

Not really.  From the AP article:

"Today, the only people who lost are the children of St. Jude," Eric Trump said after canceling the fundraiser for the children's hospital. "

 

They were trying to do a good thing and get beat up over Politics...

 

They were trying to peddle influence under the guise of a "Charity event".

Trump's always telling us how rich he is, why doesn't he actually donate some of his OWN money for a change?
 

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Got it. Eric said it was not 'influence peddling', so it can't have been influence peddling.

Politics as usual.  'They' lost so now the knives come out. 

On 12/21/2016 at 3:50 AM, webfact said:

These events are dissolving as quickly as they become public, suggesting the family is learning on the fly what's acceptable.

 

Amateur hour.  

 

And this sort of corruption is what will quite possibly bring down this administration.

Politics as usual.  'They' lost so now the knives come out. 

Lol

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1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

Politics as usual.  'They' lost so now the knives come out. 

Trump brought out the "knives". And every other type of weapon he could find.  Politics at it's dirtiest. 

 

If anybody believes for one second Trump is doing anything for the good of the nation, well...best of luck with that.

16 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Trump brought out the "knives". And every other type of weapon he could find.  Politics at it's dirtiest. 

 

If anybody believes for one second Trump is doing anything for the good of the nation, well...best of luck with that.

Well, he has already saved multitudes of jobs and don't forget about the Dow? 

52 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Trump brought out the "knives". And every other type of weapon he could find.  Politics at it's dirtiest. 

 

If anybody believes for one second Trump is doing anything for the good of the nation, well...best of luck with that.

 

How dare anyone use the child POTUS-elect's own word weapons against him! Turn about is NOT fair play. Who knows maybe he will take his ball and go home...(wishful thinking).

 

Pay for Play is something "other" people do, not the family of the POTUS-elect! How dare anyone insinuate otherwise! Must send a Twitter rant!!!

 

10 minutes ago, Silurian said:

 

How dare anyone use the child POTUS-elect's own word weapons against him! Turn about is NOT fair play. Who knows maybe he will take his ball and go home...(wishful thinking).

 

Pay for Play is something "other" people do, not the family of the POTUS-elect! How dare anyone insinuate otherwise! Must send a Twitter rant!!!

 

Trump is simply trying to make America better again.  Why do we have to continually listen to these Natterng Nabobs of Nevativism.?

Get behind the new President! 

 

55 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, he has already saved multitudes of jobs and don't forget about the Dow? 

 

...he has already saved multitudes of jobs...

 

Multitudes? No, he did not. It didn't even happen as such. Both instances were less straightforward than presented.

Republican Party is like, "Charities Shmarities!  Where's our fundraisers and cash?" 

Edited December 22, 20169 yr by 55Jay

Trump is supposedly worth upwards of US$11 billion.  If they're so rich why do they keep running these petty scams?

 

 

9 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Trump is supposedly worth upwards of US$11 billion.  If they're so rich why do they keep running these petty scams?

 

 

 

That is how people get rich in the first place.

11 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, he has already saved multitudes of jobs and don't forget about the Dow? 

 

 

Just making stuff up again...

 

Oh look, his Vice Pres. gave a company in his state some tax breaks for a publicity stunt.

And now, the small print:

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/08/trump-saved-800-jobs-indiana-but-least-2100-still-leaving/95034326/

 

Carrier to ultimately cut some of the jobs Trump saved

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/news/companies/carrier-jobs-automation/

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2016/12/04/trumps-carrier-deal-means-nothing-for-future-jobs/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/2016/12/07/carrier-corp-donald-trump-potentially-destroys-millions-of-jobs-to-save-800/&refURL=https://www.google.com/&referrer=https://www.google.com/

 

Read much?

Edited December 22, 20169 yr by Scott
correction

 

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But, what did he really save?

Certainly not the 7 million dollar cost to the taxpayers of the state for his stunt to get a headline.

 

 

And he lied about the 1100 jobs.

LIED.

Edited December 22, 20169 yr by Scott

11 hours ago, Morch said:

 

...he has already saved multitudes of jobs...

 

Multitudes? No, he did not. It didn't even happen as such. Both instances were less straightforward than presented.

The Trump effect continues with more positive news concerning American jobs:

China tycoon moves jobs to US, citing high taxes at home

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-tycoon-moves-jobs-us-citing-high-taxes-093204655--finance.html'

12 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, he has already saved multitudes of jobs and don't forget about the Dow? 

Right.  True about the Dow, but one thing we know for sure, it'll be down again at some time.

 

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/investing/donald-trump-versus-business/index.html?iid=EL

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That's what Carrier (and its parent company United Technologies (UTX)) did when it negotiated with Trump to keep some jobs in Indiana instead of moving them to Mexico, as planned. In the end, Carrier is still moving 600 (out of 1,400) jobs abroad. Plus, the company received tax incentives and went from Trump's bad list to his good list.

 

As for Boeing, the company is actually more worried about Trump's China stance than his tweets about Air Force One, according to current and former executives.

 

 

Trump is a wild card.  Hard to tell how this is going to play out.  China could blow up in his face.

12 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Trump is simply trying to make America better again.  Why do we have to continually listen to these Natterng Nabobs of Nevativism.?

Get behind the new President! 

 

He's got many fooled.  Wasn't a promise of his to work with Russia? LOL

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/22/politics/donald-trump-strengthen-expand-nuclear-capability/index.html

 

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President-elect Donald Trump signaled Thursday that he will look to "strengthen and expand" the US's nuclear capability hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin pledged to enhance his country's nuclear forces.

 

The exchange appeared to raise the prospect of a new arms race between the two nuclear superpowers, which between them boast more than 14,000 nuclear warheads, the still deadly legacy of their four-decades long Cold War standoff.

 

 

32 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Trump is a wild card.  Hard to tell how this is going to play out.  China could blow up in his face.

 

ANYTHING can blow up in his face, with him inciting it in the first place.  In the famous words of W Bush "expect the unexpected."

 

Anyone here watch "Better Call Saul"?  A chimp with a machine gun  is set to occupy the Oval Office.

 

 

Just now, bendejo said:

 

ANYTHING can blow up in his face, with him inciting it in the first place.  In the famous words of W Bush "expect the unexpected."

 

Anyone here watch "Better Call Saul"?  A chimp with a machine gun  is set to occupy the Oval Office.

 

 

LOL.  Excellent analogy! LOL  Great show also!

14 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Well, he has already saved multitudes of jobs and don't forget about the Dow? 

HUH? 

At the end of the last republican admin. the dow was at approx. 7000 under President Obama it is a/b 12, 000. 

At the end of the last republican admin. unemployment was 7% under President Obama it is a/b 4 %. Let's not forget the majority of Americans voted for H.R.C. against his guy.

BTW: Ever hear of factcheck? Or facts?

6 hours ago, bendejo said:

Trump is supposedly worth upwards of US$11 billion.  If they're so rich why do they keep running these petty scams?

 

 

Never enough mentality. GREED. 

Some of these posts need to be more specific. With all the talk about corruption, I's hard to tell if they are talking about Hillary or Trump. It appears that it is about whether the Clinton Foundation is more corrupt than the Trump Foundation or vice versa.

 

Quite frankly, I wouldn't buy a used car from either of them.

Off-topic post and replies removed.   Stay on topic.  

3 hours ago, selftaopath said:

HUH? 

At the end of the last republican admin. unemployment was 7% under President Obama it is a/b 4 %.

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BTW: Ever hear of factcheck? Or facts?

 

 

Did you honestly just talk to someone else about factchecking?!

 

You need to learn the company line mate. The right realised a long time ago they can't defend that one, so it's all about the "well they're not proper jobs" *sniff* narrative.

 

 

Edited December 23, 20169 yr by Chicog

13 minutes ago, Chicog said:

 

 

Did you honestly just talk to someone else about factchecking?!

 

You need to learn the company line mate. The right realised a long time ago they can't defend that one, so it's all about the "well they're not proper jobs" *sniff* narrative.

 

 

HIs numbers were about right.  Some 9% when Obama took office to some 4% now.  A bit off, but not by much.

 

http://www.benzinga.com/news/16/11/8653903/a-look-at-the-unemployment-rate-since-obama-took-office

When Obama took office, the unemployment rate was at 9.3 percent. While that figure hit as high at 9.6 percent in 2010, it has steadily decreased every year since.

Average Unemployment Rate By Year

• 2009: 9.3 percent.
• 2010: 9.6 percent.
• 2011: 8.9 percent.
• 2012: 8.1 percent.
• 2013: 7.4 percent.
• 2014: 6.2 percent.
• 2015: 5.3 percent.
• 2016: 4.9 percent.

8 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

The Trump effect continues with more positive news concerning American jobs:

China tycoon moves jobs to US, citing high taxes at home

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-tycoon-moves-jobs-us-citing-high-taxes-093204655--finance.html'

 

The reasons cited for the move are more to do with economic policies and conditions in the PRC, rather than Trump's supposed "effect".

Edited December 23, 20169 yr by Morch

2 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

HIs numbers were about right.  Some 9% when Obama took office to some 4% now.  A bit off, but not by much.

 

http://www.benzinga.com/news/16/11/8653903/a-look-at-the-unemployment-rate-since-obama-took-office

When Obama took office, the unemployment rate was at 9.3 percent. While that figure hit as high at 9.6 percent in 2010, it has steadily decreased every year since.

Average Unemployment Rate By Year

• 2009: 9.3 percent.
• 2010: 9.6 percent.
• 2011: 8.9 percent.
• 2012: 8.1 percent.
• 2013: 7.4 percent.
• 2014: 6.2 percent.
• 2015: 5.3 percent.
• 2016: 4.9 percent.

Misleading numbers as folks not in the labor workforce aren't included.

http://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/

Edited December 23, 20169 yr by Boon Mee

18 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Misleading numbers as folks not in the labor workforce aren't included.

http://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/

There are many different numbers used regarding the workforce.  The one I quoted is just one of them.

29 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Misleading numbers as folks not in the labor workforce aren't included.

http://www.epi.org/publication/missing-workers/

 

Boon Mee citing left wing sources! It must be serious.

 

The Employment Rate is a clearly established and understood metric that is used in economic models. The labor participation rate is a metric used for political purposes because its numbers seem worse than the employment rate. Advocates of its use do not address the weaknesses in the metric's methodology by assuming every person is a potential worker including students, retirees, investors etc.

 

It is clear why labor interests promote this statistic to benefit their interests. It is also clear why the Right have taken o offering this bogus metric to tarnish successful economic policies under Obama. I guess politics does make strange bedfellows.

 

Do you keep your eyes closed and 'think of England' while shacking up with the enemy Boon Mee?