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1 hour ago, boomerangutang said:

      Obamacare is large program cast upon a nation of 360 million people who mostly had private health insurance policy (expensive) options available.

The USA population is 300 million, perhaps you were including Mexico, or maybe the UK.  Lol

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Says the ex Law Professor!  Hardly the most experienced when he took office himself.

 

Governments are a business these days, rightly or wrongly. And operate in "the country's best interests" which sadly are not always the same as the people's.

 

Whether the Trump business model is the right one - time will tell. But you can bet the banks, financiers, Wall Street, and big lobbyists are already up his arse.

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1 hour ago, EddieBaBaBoBo said:

Duh! It's a joke... maybe. Time will tell...

 

Except that millions of easily-duped Trump fans will lap it up as truth.  That's what they're good at, besides getting fat, and caressing their guns.

 

There's also the mega-fake-news story of Bill and Hillary keeping teenage sex slaves in the WH basement.  Uh Oh, I shouldn't have mentioned that. Now right wingers are going to re-tweet that all over the internet, because they believe in spreading ugly lies.

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2 hours ago, hawker9000 said:

 

LOL.  "Headwind"? "Headwind" you say??  No, I'll tell you what "headwind" is.  Headwind is the opposition going postal out in the streets smashing car windows, setting fire to buildings, vandalizing private party with graffiti, closing public roads, delivering hate mail and death threats to members of the electoral college, telling voters who didn't vote "your way" that they're not welcome at the workplace, and viciously attacking a mentally disabled person and posting it live on facebook so all the other brownshirts can enjoy it, too.  

 

Obama will definitely NOT fare well as his history gets written.  He'll instead go down in history as the most inept, self-absorbed, arrogant, divisive, anti-American, anti-Constitution, anti-middle class president in history. 

 

But maybe his golf game has improved...

 

  

 

And yet Trump supporters also insist this "resistance" is futile and impotent - so maybe not that much of a "headwind"?

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"Trump election: US presidency is not a family business, says Obama"

 

Yeah, and it's not an eight-year imperial dictatorship either, Barry!

 

Do yourself a favor.  Stop bloviating and start packing.

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5 hours ago, mike324 said:

Those that don't like Obama are spewing rubbish without knowing why debt increase, why healthcare cost increase for some but yet help millions more. 

 

 

 

What?  This doesn't make sense.  America is based on a capitalistic system. Under said system, the many don't pay for the few without voting to do so.   We didn't get a vote on Obamacare and the vote to elect Trump speaks to that.  My wife and I personally voted for Obama both times......his performance and actions in his second term moved him in a direction we could not support.  It isn't rubbish to reject policies we never supported and didn't believe we were supporting when we voted for him.

 

We haven't yet voted to be Socialists , which is the very thing that Obama and Clinton seem to think is the way forward. The word "globalization" appears to have been coined by President Obama just recently, or maybe I was just out to lunch when he first brought it up.  When I heard about it recently I was floored.  In one of the many speeches Hillary Clinton didn't want us to hear, she said she wanted to see free trade worldwide and no borders.....the only way to accomplish that would be through Socialization, or in other words, "Globalization".  

 

Had there been any hint this would end up being a part of the Democratic Party's future plans I doubt Obama would have ever been elected in the first place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The USA is a very big place and encompasses many diverse societies within it.  You will never please all of the people all of the time and more than ever America is split into different factions from the loonie left to the rightwing extremists.  It is hard to imagine a country united, which is starkly illustrated by the posters here.  Of course everyone needs someone to blame for our relative woes and in the US it is easy, "It's the Presidents fault".  Not just in America of course, people do the same in the UK. 

 

The President may be steering the ship but it is the people who are manning the oars and driving it forward.  Some are putting their backs into it and some are just bickering and letting the others do the rowing.  Maybe the people should start rowing together more and moaning less.

 

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27 minutes ago, connda said:

Trump is breaking the mold - no more business (politics) as usual.  So if the new model is the Presidency is a family affair, what it to the lame-duck leaving the White House. 

 

No more politics as usual?!  You're actually right.

 

'Politics as usual' was some corruption, some under the table payments for favors, cheating, lying, hounding people who didn't praise the boss.  It may also have included hiring your own kids and/or compelling visiting dignitaries to stay at your resorts.

 

Trump will certainly break the mold:  He'll be 500 times more corrupt. 

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14 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

Which he knew about when he ran. He promised to fix it in short order and didn't. The buck stops with the president. 

 

       Obama and his crew did surprisingly well with the tattered mess he inherited from the do-nothing, kiss-Wall-Street's-ass Republicans.

 

        Can you imagine any Republican doing any better than Obama for the past 8 years?  If so, give us some names.  I'm open for a good chuckle.

 

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Despitre those  - including Trump - who could not stand a Black being elected to the Presidency of the United States have attacked Obama without the slightest restraint ( "Senate Minority Leader Mitch] McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was: `For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’” Biden says. ), Obama has always behaved with intelligence and elegance.

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/8/10/1118614/-Biden-Mitch-McConnell-vowed-no-cooperation-with-the-Obama-administration-from-the-get-go

 

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Playing the racism card as usual and it is largely nonsense. Obama's politically correct policies have been his undoing and the reason that Trump was chosen president. 

 

Trump's family are very successful and intelligent. Why would he not want to harnace their expertise?

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Jared Kushner, a Trump In-Law and Adviser, Chases a Chinese Deal

" While the law prohibits federal officials from hiring relatives for agencies they lead, Mr. Kushner’s lawyers argue, among other things, that the White House is not an agency and is therefore exempt."

"Goldman Sachs has lent the Kushner Companies money and is an investor in a real estate technology company co-founded by Mr. Kushner and his brother."

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/us/politics/jared-kushner-trump-business.html?_r=0

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9 hours ago, dunroaming said:

The USA is a very big place and encompasses many diverse societies within it.  You will never please all of the people all of the time and more than ever America is split into different factions from the loonie left to the rightwing extremists.  It is hard to imagine a country united, which is starkly illustrated by the posters here.  Of course everyone needs someone to blame for our relative woes and in the US it is easy, "It's the Presidents fault".  Not just in America of course, people do the same in the UK. 

 

The President may be steering the ship but it is the people who are manning the oars and driving it forward.  Some are putting their backs into it and some are just bickering and letting the others do the rowing.  Maybe the people should start rowing together more and moaning less.

 

 

...or maybe we should find somebody else to steer.

 

Oh wait.  We DID!!!

 

LOL   'Just love these little pearls of homespun wisdom.

 

 

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17 hours ago, little mary sunshine said:

Hey Big "O". ...No one

told that to the Kennedys!!

The names Kennedy, Bush, and Clinton (nearly) are synonymous with the US Presidency evolving into a "family business".

No president, however, can boast as many commander-in-chief connections as Franklin Delano Roosevelt who, by blood or marriage, was related to 11 other former presidents: John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin Harrison, William Howard Taft and, of course, Theodore Roosevelt, FDR’s fifth cousin,

"House of Windsor" US style.

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27 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

The names Kennedy, Bush, and Clinton (nearly) are synonymous with the US Presidency evolving into a "family business".

No president, however, can boast as many commander-in-chief connections as Franklin Delano Roosevelt who, by blood or marriage, was related to 11 other former presidents: John Adams, James Madison, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Johnson, Ulysses S. Grant, Benjamin Harrison, William Howard Taft and, of course, Theodore Roosevelt, FDR’s fifth cousin,

"House of Windsor" US style.

Interesting, but the point is they didn't all sit round the table at the Whitehouse at the same time did they.

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