Trump son-in-law Kushner to take on senior White House advisory role

[Ulysses G.]

Does it really come down to which candidate told the MOST lies? Come on.  Besides, throw in lies eminating from the democratic party and the MSM and it will dwarf Trump, Wikileaks and Russia too.

[craigt3365]

Just now, Ulysses G. said:

Does it really come down to which candidate told the MOST lies? Come on.  Besides, throw in lies eminating from the democratic party and the MSM and it will dwarf Trump, Wikileaks and Russia too.

Yes, lies matter.  Especially when coming from the president-elect.  MSM, Wikileaks and Russia have nothing to do with this.  Focus on Trump.  Don't deflect.

[Ulysses G.]

Deflect? Sure lies matter and Trump was FAR from the only one telling lies in this election and the ones before that. The other party lied like crazy too and they are still lying and mud slinging to attempt to discredit Trump's presidency. Sore losers.

Kushner is an excellent choice for presidential advisor.

[craigt3365]

1 minute ago, Ulysses G. said:

Deflect? Sure lies matter and Trump was FAR from the only one telling lies in this election and the ones before that. The other party lied like crazy too and they are still lying and mud slinging to attempt to discredit Trump's presidency. Sore losers.

Kushner is an excellent choice for presidential advisor.

Deflection...again....blame the other party, focus on the election.  Like a broken record.

[kevkev1888]

8 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

NONE of the speculation that is going on nor the 'mud slinging' is baseless, to even suggest that to an intelligent audience is "plain silly".

 

The following isn't baseless mud slinging? What is it then? Do you count it as intelligent comment, or "plain silly"?

 

Andaman Al said: "Maybe thaibeachlovers it is not that you need to be stupid to be as rich as he, you just need to lose your moral compass and be criminal. You need the innate desire and ability to screw people over for every penny they possess. Try it the next time you walk around Bangkok. If you see a disabled bigger holding a cup for money, reach down and take out the coins in the cup and put them in your own pocket before walking off. If you feel good with what you did  then you have taken the first step up the ladder to being as successful as Trump and his 3 little piggies, if you feel bad but don't put the coins back then maybe you could work for Trump at least. If what you did makes you want to vomit with shame then be proud of your place as a member of the human race."

Edited January 11, 2017 by kevkev1888

[Ulysses G.]

"Deflection...again...blame the other party, focus on the election."

 

You are the one who brought up the election. Not me.

Edited January 11, 2017 by Ulysses G.

[ilostmypassword]

5 minutes ago, kevkev1888 said:

 

The following isn't baseless mud slinging? What is it then? Do you count it as intelligent comment, or "plain silly"?

 

Andaman Al said: "Maybe thaibeachlovers it is not that you need to be stupid to be as rich as he, you just need to lose your moral compass and be criminal. You need the innate desire and ability to screw people over for every penny they possess. Try it the next time you walk around Bangkok. If you see a disabled bigger holding a cup for money, reach down and take out the coins in the cup and put them in your own pocket before walking off. If you feel good with what you did  then you have taken the first step up the ladder to being as successful as Trump and his 3 little piggies, if you feel bad but don't put the coins back then maybe you could work for Trump at least. If what you did makes you want to vomit with shame then be proud of your place as a member of the human race."

Trump just pleaded no contest to fraud charges against Trump University.  The evidence against him was overwhelming. When he ran his Atlantic City casinos into the ground, he managed to get them to pay for lots of his personal debts. He also had them buy from other Trump enterprises at inflated prices.  He threatened to sue a financial analysis company if they didn't fire a journalist who was telling the truth about the Atlantic City disaster he was heading.  The list goes on and on.  The man is a lowlife.

[ilostmypassword]

18 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

Deflect? Sure lies matter and Trump was FAR from the only one telling lies in this election and the ones before that. The other party lied like crazy too and they are still lying and mud slinging to attempt to discredit Trump's presidency. Sore losers.

Kushner is an excellent choice for presidential advisor.

Absolutely. He got where he is today by having the initiative to be born to a wealthy father. And he had the intellectual chops to have his Daddy buy his way into Harvard.

[Scott]

The topic is about Trump's son-in-law being in a senior position.   Please stay on topic.   It's not about the Democratic or Republican party.  

[tonibuergisser]

Right wing mafia gang

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[tonibuergisser]

Good news. He and his wife are intelligent businesspeople that will help President Trump make America great again!

Will make the rich richer and the poor poorer

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[Grubster]

12 hours ago, Morch said:

 

The swamp is everywhere where money meets politics and influence. And rich people (referring to your other post) are not necessarily done accumulating wealth. If this was so, Trump would have had less issues severing his ties with his companies.

Very true and the meeting place is Congress and has been for many years with no difference between left and right. When they pass a controversial bill it usually passes by one vote, nearly all of them want it to pass but they usually let the guys who it will damage the most in their next election vote against it. I do not believe the show they put on about left and right sides of the isle. Go to the high end restaurants where they meet and you will find them sitting together laughing about how stupid we are.

               I think Trump has the opportunity to expose this charade for what it is. They don't own him and that is why the Republican swamp dwellers were also dead against him.  Only time will tell and our speculation may or may not be right.

[ilostmypassword]

6 minutes ago, Grubster said:

Very true and the meeting place is Congress and has been for many years with no difference between left and right. When they pass a controversial bill it usually passes by one vote, nearly all of them want it to pass but they usually let the guys who it will damage the most in their next election vote against it. I do not believe the show they put on about left and right sides of the isle. Go to the high end restaurants where they meet and you will find them sitting together laughing about how stupid we are.

               I think Trump has the opportunity to expose this charade for what it is. They don't own him and that is why the Republican swamp dwellers were also dead against him.  Only time will tell and our speculation may or may not be right.

No, it's clear from his appointments that Wall Street owns him.  And owns Congress. So you might say Trump heads a separate division of the same company.

[Grubster]

8 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

No, it's clear from his appointments that Wall Street owns him.  And owns Congress. So you might say Trump heads a separate division of the same company.

Your speculation will have to wait too, maybe you are right but I sure hope not. The vote is over and its time to see what happens the next four years if he is not offed as I am a bit worried about.

[ilostmypassword]

Here's a link to an article about why it's a really, really bad idea to appoint your relatives to positions of power:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/donald-trumps-first-attempt-to-ignore-the-law/?utm_term=.069c71d7d110&wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1

And such moves are probably implicated in Trumps plummeting approval ratings:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/this-new-poll-has-all-kinds-of-bad-news-for-donald-trump/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.461015003619

[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, Grubster said:

Your speculation will have to wait too, maybe you are right but I sure hope not. The vote is over and its time to see what happens the next four years if he is not offed as I am a bit worried about.

I guess if someone suspends his power of reasoning it's possible not to see where the Trump administration is headed. But the fact that he wants to repeal controls on the kind of behavior of banks and hedge funds that led to the Great Recession, for me says it all. What more evidence do you need?

[Grubster]

1 minute ago, ilostmypassword said:

I guess if someone suspends his power of reasoning it's possible not to see where the Trump administration is headed. But the fact that he wants to repeal controls on the kind of behavior of banks and hedge funds that led to the Great Recession, for me says it all. What more evidence do you need?

I don't believe he wants to do that and it is not evidence until he does. We had all those regulations a long time ago and who lifted them? Congress did.

[craigt3365]

6 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Here's a link to an article about why it's a really, really bad idea to appoint your relatives to positions of power:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/donald-trumps-first-attempt-to-ignore-the-law/?utm_term=.069c71d7d110&wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1

And such moves are probably implicated in Trumps plummeting approval ratings:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/this-new-poll-has-all-kinds-of-bad-news-for-donald-trump/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.461015003619

From your link:

Quote

As honeymoons go, Donald Trump’s wasn’t much to write home about. He was voted in as the most unpopular president-elect in modern history and got slightly less unpopular in the weeks that followed, as the goodwill flowed. Even then, though, he clearly remained the most unpopular president-elect in modern history. Again, that was the honeymoon.

............

Today, 28 percent say they feel worse about Trump since Election Day; just 23 percent feel better.

 

[Opl]

18 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Here's a link to an article about why it's a really, really bad idea to appoint your relatives to positions of power:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/donald-trumps-first-attempt-to-ignore-the-law/?utm_term=.069c71d7d110&wpisrc=nl_most-draw10&wpmm=1

And such moves are probably implicated in Trumps plummeting approval ratings:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/this-new-poll-has-all-kinds-of-bad-news-for-donald-trump/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.461015003619

 

Thanks for sharing,

From your link above, this phrase, IMO defines Trump's way :  

" President-elect Trump, in my view, is testing the waters to see if he can get away with violating what I would call this government ethics provision. And whether President-elect Trump gets away with this depends, it seems to me, in part on the public response as well as the congressional response.…"

 

Public and Congress ...

Edited January 11, 2017 by Opl

[iReason]

Just another silver spooner who inherited his convicted felon (18 counts) father's dough.

(It's no wonder he spurned Chris Christie, Christie put his old man behind bars.)

 

Jared Kushner: The quiet millionaire with Donald Trump's ear

 

"Both Mr Kushner and Mr Trump inherited vast property empires from their fathers at a relatively young age,

and their apparent bond may be based in part at least on similar experiences."

 

And the old man was a real piece of work:

 

"He was jailed for tax evasion, illegal campaign contributions and witness tampering. He admitted setting up his own brother-in-law with a prostitute, secretly filming the liaison, and sending the tape to his sister in an effort to dissuade them from testifying against him."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37986429

 

"Lineage" indeed...

Edited January 11, 2017 by iReason

[Morch]

12 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

Deflect? Sure lies matter and Trump was FAR from the only one telling lies in this election and the ones before that. The other party lied like crazy too and they are still lying and mud slinging to attempt to discredit Trump's presidency. Sore losers.

Kushner is an excellent choice for presidential advisor.

 

Kushner is an excellent choice for presidential advisor.

 

Other than repeating it, there was little attempt to demonstrate what are his qualifications or how he is better qualified than others. His only unique merit seems to be that Trump trusts him. That's not necessarily saying anything much about his character or qualifications, but just a fact.

 

Leaders often keep some trusted advisors around, or appoint them for certain posts. If that was the argument, it would have made more sense than trying to praise Kushner's qualities.

[ilostmypassword]

10 hours ago, Grubster said:

I don't believe he wants to do that and it is not evidence until he does. We had all those regulations a long time ago and who lifted them? Congress did.

It's not a matter of belief. Trump has explicitly and repeatedly said that he wants to eliminate Dodd Frank.

As for Congress lifting regulations - can you be even slightly more specific?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 1/10/2017 at 2:40 PM, Srikcir said:

The Federal Anti-Nepotism Statute was passed in 1967 ?

Kushner will not be a federal employee, only an advisor and not a member of the POTUS Cabinet.

 

Read the OP article again. Kushner will be a paid federal employee if he ends up taking the position they're writing about. He'll be a paid advisor to the president in the White House -- not of any regular federal department and not a member of the president's cabinet, at least, not yet.

[Ulysses G.]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Read the OP article again. Kushner will be a paid federal employee if he ends up taking the position they're writing about. He'll be a paid advisor to the president in the White House -- not of any regular federal department and not a member of the president's cabinet, at least, not yet.

 

Not necessarily. There are reports that he will take no salary.

 

Mr. Kushner has consulted with at least one lawyer and believes that by forgoing a salary and putting his investment fund, his real estate holdings and The New York Observer into a blind trust, he would not be bound by federal nepotism rules, according to one of the people briefed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/us/politics/donald-trump-administration.html

 

 

[Ulysses G.]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Kushner is an excellent choice for presidential advisor.

 

Other than repeating it, there was little attempt to demonstrate what are his qualifications or how he is better qualified than others. His only unique merit seems to be that Trump trusts him. That's not necessarily saying anything much about his character or qualifications, but just a fact.

 

Leaders often keep some trusted advisors around, or appoint them for certain posts. If that was the argument, it would have made more sense than trying to praise Kushner's qualities.

 

Trump trusts him, but he has other qualifications. Mr. Kushner is a successful business man - real estate mogul - and he owns The New York Observer, so has power and familiarity with the media.

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Trump trusts him, but he has other qualifications. Mr. Kushner is a successful business man - real estate mogul - and he owns The New York Observer, so has power and familiarity with the media.

 

Being a real estate developer, even a rich one - does not necessarily make someone into a qualified advisor on political matters. Whether Kushner's ownership of the New York Observer was/is indicative of his supposed media prowess is questionable. Again, I'm not making the case that he's your average Joe - just that he doesn't have anything particularly impressive to offer with regard to the issues he will be advising Trump about.

[Redline]

23 hours ago, hawker9000 said:

 

Oh, I forgot.  Precedents only count when dems want them to.  Sorry.

 

Have another beer silly.  I'm not a Democrat 

[ilostmypassword]

8 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Trump trusts him, but he has other qualifications. Mr. Kushner is a successful business man - real estate mogul - and he owns The New York Observer, so has power and familiarity with the media.

Yes, another self made real estate mogul who inherited the business from his father. I think you have a severe case of willful ignorance.

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Trump trusts him, but he has other qualifications. Mr. Kushner is a successful business man - real estate mogul - and he owns The New York Observer, so has power and familiarity with the media.

Kushner is an Advisor, a contractor. There's practically no qualifications required as such - a garbage collector or Walmart Greeter could qualify for the position so  long as Trump trusts that person's opinions.

Trump has shown he trusts fake and unverified news sources. He seems to disdain people who operate from fact so Kushner is actually an improvement in providing Trump feedback. And of course Kushner has that one key qualification - loyalty!

[mtls2005]

Shades of a Hollywood movie pitch.... "Meet the Fokkers" and "Why Him".