Elite Card only option for 8yr old homeSchooled Expat

[darrendsd]

4 hours ago, chickenrunCM said:

OMG, 

so you will say, that if they travel to thailand and the parents have valid Visas or extension, the IMO will denien a 8 y old child entry? 

use your brain, this will never happen! Her will be granted Entry without any problem. Or the IMO has to offer a Visa possibility for the kid. 

Buy a Elite card for the kid is isane and a taff joke for all who live and work in Thailand.

Never ever IMO would stop a child at the border! For what reason? work illegal? 5555

 

You should read what the OP has said, he has been warned that his child MUST get a Visa as the child is using the Visa Exempt method to many times

 

And NO Immigration Officers at the Airport DO NOT have to offer a visa possibility for a child or anybody for that matter, it is not in their power to do so, Immigration at the Airport do not issue visas so stop talking rubbish

[chickenrunCM]

19 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

 

You should read what the OP has said, he has been warned that his child MUST get a Visa as the child is using the Visa Exempt method to many times

 

And NO Immigration Officers at the Airport DO NOT have to offer a visa possibility for a child or anybody for that matter, it is not in their power to do so, Immigration at the Airport do not issue visas so stop talking rubbish

you are talking rubish, because you say that the kid wouldn´t be allowed to enter Thailand on a 30 days stamp and this is not true, many people enter thailand 10 or 20 times a year on a 30 days stamp and they are adults. 

You talking only in Theorie, same like when people talking about  you getting arested if you work online in Thailand, or if you refix your house or simelar work. 

you have 2000 posts, I gues you not have a real life, that you have time to talk about everything without any proofen example. 

Tell me 1 case where a child got refused traveling with parents who have a valid Visa?

How they know the kid lives in Thailand, if it leaves all the time?

 

 

[darrendsd]

23 minutes ago, chickenrunCM said:

you are talking rubish, because you say that the kid wouldn´t be allowed to enter Thailand on a 30 days stamp and this is not true, many people enter thailand 10 or 20 times a year on a 30 days stamp and they are adults. 

You talking only in Theorie, same like when people talking about  you getting arested if you work online in Thailand, or if you refix your house or simelar work. 

you have 2000 posts, I gues you not have a real life, that you have time to talk about everything without any proofen example. 

Tell me 1 case where a child got refused traveling with parents who have a valid Visa?

How they know the kid lives in Thailand, if it leaves all the time?

 

 

 

You clearly have have not read what the OP has said and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

 

"many people enter thailand 10 or 20 times a year on a 30 days stamp and they are adults"

Not anymore they don't

[thaiclan]

9 hours ago, chickenrunCM said:

OMG, 

so you will say, that if they travel to thailand and the parents have valid Visas or extension, the IMO will denien a 8 y old child entry? 

use your brain, this will never happen! Her will be granted Entry without any problem. Or the IMO has to offer a Visa possibility for the kid. 

Buy a Elite card for the kid is isane and a taff joke for all who live and work in Thailand.

Never ever IMO would stop a child at the border! For what reason? work illegal? 5555

 

That was my thinking too. BUT, after having been dragged into immigration side rooms on 3 separate occasions and told in no uncertain terms that she MUST have a visa 'next time' I realised they WERE serious.

On the last occassion they even pulled up her travel data and told me they should send her back to Singapore as she had no right to get (another) 30 day stamp.

Like you I did wonder what on Earth they were going to actually do to a British Caucasian 7 year old (7 at the time) - would they really put her in jail or an immigration cell?  Nope they would just put her on a flight back from the country she had arrived from.

 

Personally we are very grateful that the Elite Card exists!

 

[gemguy]

6 hours ago, darrendsd said:

 

You should read what the OP has said, he has been warned that his child MUST get a Visa as the child is using the Visa Exempt method to many times

 

And NO Immigration Officers at the Airport DO NOT have to offer a visa possibility for a child or anybody for that matter, it is not in their power to do so, Immigration at the Airport do not issue visas so stop talking rubbish

Yes...the next time I enter with my child and he does not have a Visa then they MAY ..if they want, not grant him a 30 day stay upon arrival and this is always the precarious part of not having the child arranged on a visa or extension if you are coming and going occasionally or many times per year.

The immigration officers at the airport or port of entry can do as they please....

Fortunately they have always been gracious and simply stamp the child's passport with a 30 day entry stamp....but next time...I do not know either.

Cheers 

[LivinLOS]

6 hours ago, chickenrunCM said:

you are talking rubish, because you say that the kid wouldn´t be allowed to enter Thailand on a 30 days stamp and this is not true, many people enter thailand 10 or 20 times a year on a 30 days stamp and they are adults. 

 

Dont know where your living or what news your following but theres big changes.. Land borders are legally limited to 2 per year, air borders are being far more strict and people who used to do this can no longer. 

 

Almost all my oil and gas mates used to just have 30 day stamps, thats 10s of guys, now they all have visas.. A good few of them elite visas these days.. They were simply told you cant keep doing this 'no entry next time without a visa' etc. 

[dentonian]

You should read a friends experience

 

 

[thaiclan]

7 hours ago, chickenrunCM said:

How they know the kid lives in Thailand, if it leaves all the time?

 

Your post is common sense BUT things have changed and we saw a big change from last year in particular.

Our daughter has a residency in Singapore and an accompanying visa to live in Singapore (a Dependents pass), so we used to show Thai immigration this to "prove" that she wasn't living in Thailand and was just a frequent visitor.  That USED to work.  Then around March last year we kept being told that it was 3 stamps  max per yearfor 30day visa only.

Like you we just smiled and waved thinking there was no way they would refuse entry for an 8 year old whose parents and elder sister had valid visas.

However things really had changed and we needed to procure a relevant visa for her.

 

Our case is a bit unique in that we DON'T want regular schooling for our 8 year old, otherwise its quite easy for parents to enrol their child into school and get an ED visa no problem.  Most parents want their children in school and so I guess this isn't a numerous problem.

An embassy even granted a 3 month non-O on the basis that the whole area is a "grey area" so your post makes sense.  It SHOULD be like you say, it WAS like you say...but things have changed (once more) and will probably change again in the near future!

[IMA_FARANG]

Under the new regulation starting 1 January 2017 visa exempt entries will be limited to 2 border crossing entries per calendar year.

This at least for now does not apply to entries by air at international airports.

If you have been in the habit  of entering Thailand across a land border form say Laos or Cambodia that new rule will start affecting you after 1 January 2017.

It has been the case for many years that entries into Thailand by foriegners are not based on the person entering Thailand but the Passport they use. to enter.

A foriegn (i.e. U. K. passport) is subject to the regulations for a U. K. citizen entering the country.

That rule applies whether the person emtering Thailand is a child or an adult and  for that very reason a child having a U.K. passport must have a visa as does any U.K. passport holder

Exactly the same rule is applied in Thailand as in the U.K. or the U.S.A.

A foriegner entering the U.K. or the U.S.A. does not automatically get to bring his wife and son or daughter.

Many "Pakistanis" entering the U.K. have learned this to their surprise when bringing their family into the U.K.

There is no automatic rule that allows children the right to "follow" their parents into another country.

This may not be a fair or just law, but it is common in Eueope and Nortn Ameica.

 

 

[thaiclan]

20 hours ago, IMA_FARANG said:

There is no automatic rule that allows children the right to "follow" their parents into another country.

 

It certainly has never been the rule in Thailand in the 14 years Ive been here.  Children and babies have always needed a visa of their own to arrive in Thailand.  Like you say, it is just the same in other countries too.

 

[ukrules]

I read the terms and conditions when I applied for a Thailand Elite membership and I recall that you need to be a certain age to sign up - 20 years old is the age.

 

From here : http://www.thailandelite.com/job.php

 

This :

The applicant/the Member must have and maintain to have the following qualifications: 6.1   Being sui juris under Thai law at the age of or over twenty (20) years old; 6.2   Being allowed to stay in Thailand in accordance with the immigration laws or any related law of Thailand; 6.3   Holding a foreign passport; 6.4   Not having been adjudicated bankrupt; 6.5   Not having been declared as a person of unsound mind, incompetence, or quasi-incompetence; and 6.6   Not having been sentenced by a judgment to imprisonment in any countries except for an offence committed through negligence

[ubonjoe]

3 hours ago, ukrules said:

6.1   Being sui juris under Thai law at the age of or over twenty (20) years old;

I think that is to apply without parental consent. Getting Thai Elite member is a legal and binding agreement and thus falls under that law. With the parents doing the application and thus giving consent it can be done.

An example is that Thai's cannot get a passport without consent until over the age of 20.