justaphase Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Yesterday I put 500 baht worth of 95 gasohol and 300 of LPG in my car and drove 170km on the 95 (to Kanchanburi and around) and still had a little left. I switched to gas for the way home, another 145km and all the gas was gone by the time i was arrived. Umm..a bit cheaper but not really. I saw on the tv a few years ago they were going to gradually raise the price of gas 25 satang a month or so, so eventually it would be the same price as petrol. That was in 2011 when it was 8 baht. I'm scared to death of a rear-ender with both my kids in the back so is it worth it? Should i take my gas bottle out now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 My NV city car on LPG since new. Fuel cost 1/2 of running 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I would never have a "gas" tank in the rear of a ride......Ain't worth it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) For the piddly amount saved and the potential risk to you and your family I would remove the gas ASAP. What car do you have, will it run on E85 ? only 1 good thing gas is for and that's cooking. Edited January 15, 2017 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justaphase Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 It's a 2.2 Camry, like i said I'm happy with the consumption using 95 gasohol. Is E85 cheaper still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 5 hours ago, justaphase said: It's a 2.2 Camry, like i said I'm happy with the consumption using 95 gasohol. Is E85 cheaper still? About 8b per litre cheaper but dont use it unless you know 100% your car is compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patyh Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I once had a mitsubishi attrage and initially thought having an LPG tank installed would help me save some money on running cost.. It took awhile to get my initial investment back.. Was it worth it? No.. I constantly had LPG smell in the cabin even though my installer was a professional one, not some somchai garage. And furthermore, I had 2 scare with a bumper accident, that was enough for me to sell the car and buy another one.. swearing off LPG forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousehound Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 16 hours ago, justaphase said: It's a 2.2 Camry, like i said I'm happy with the consumption using 95 gasohol. Is E85 cheaper still? I swear by Gas. My Camry is way cheaper to run on gas than petrol BUT I made sure I had a top of the line system installed and had it tuned to run on gas - that may have made a difference. I also do big mileage - about 60k a year and keep all my receipts. The car is now due to be retired having done 320k and the savings in fuel are big over that time. If you do 10k a year I would forget it. I also have a tray back light truck on gas and quire frankly I could not afford to run it on petrol alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I just drove my NV from Samui to Sakon Nakhon on LPG. It was costing 11.99 per litre in the south and 14.70 in the north. Average fill was 500 baht in the south and I was getting 550 km from that so a little less than 1 baht per KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I have never heard of one LPG tank blowing up in an accident in LOS. And have seen 100lb tanks with huge dents in them - still being used, no leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, patyh said: I constantly had LPG smell in the cabin even though my installer was a professional one, not some somchai garage. If it leaks - he ain' t no Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patyh Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, canthai55 said: If it leaks - he ain' t no Pro Tell that to the company that handles LPG/CNG installation offically for following: - Police Vehicles - Inter-provincial vans - Mitubishi Lancer (CNG) - Mitsubishi Triton (CNG) - etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I stand by what I said - if your installation leaks, and you can smell gas, by no stretch of the imagination is it a professional installation. Mine does not leak. Makes no difference who he installs it for - if yours is done properly it will not have leaked. Therefore - improper installation. Therefore - unprofessional Edited January 16, 2017 by canthai55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I use 85 gasohol in my 2014 Chevrolet runs great at 19 to 20 baht a liter. TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, canthai55 said: I have never heard of one LPG tank blowing up in an accident in LOS. And have seen 100lb tanks with huge dents in them - still being used, no leaks. Yes,a lot of paranoia here about lpg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 If LPG is under 75% of the full price of petrol then you're making money. The mistake many people make is to tune their car to run on either LPG or petrol....this error ensures that your car will run badly on both! Either get rid of the petrol and run solely on LPG (preferred) or get rid of the gas and go for the petrol! If your gas system is fitted correctly then there will be a cutout in the system that allows the tank to cut itself off in case of an accident, in any case, a properly fitted gas system will no more "explode in flames" than a properly fitted petrol tank! LPG is used safely throughout the world, in million and millions of cars, check your fittings for leaks with soapy water and try not to let the tank get too hot.....that is all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Definitely not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bontang Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Definitely not worth it. Re LPG Engine short life burns the valves , loads of people here in Thailand changed over to LPG & now having to change the Engine as there is no resale value on the engine Scrap value, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepinthailand Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Had LPG car in UK for years worked well and there was massively cheaper. It was fitted by qualified gas lgp installers and went back every 6 months for a check up and new filters. Here would touch them with a barge pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) From a purely safety perspective....... Petrol is at least as volatile as LPG, if not more so Petrol tanks are much lighter grade steel than LPG tanks Petrol tanks are generally under the trunk/boot floor, and further aft than an LPG tank so more vulnerable My assessment is that petrol probably as dangerous as gas, or perhaps more dangerous?? Having said that, I don't often hear of gas or petrol tanks exploding as a result of being rear ended, so both are low risk as I see it. Edited January 16, 2017 by F4UCorsair addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Re LPG Engine short life burns the valves , loads of people here in Thailand changed over to LPG & now having to change the Engine as there is no resale value on the engine Scrap value, My over 200,000 km proves you wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Another mainly bottom talk thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4UCorsair Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, kartman said: Another mainly bottom talk thread Well let's hear something more cerebral from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 5 hours ago, F4UCorsair said: From a purely safety perspective....... Petrol is at least as volatile as LPG, if not more so Petrol tanks are much lighter grade steel than LPG tanks Petrol tanks are generally under the trunk/boot floor, and further aft than an LPG tank so more vulnerable My assessment is that petrol probably as dangerous as gas, or perhaps more dangerous?? Having said that, I don't often hear of gas or petrol tanks exploding as a result of being rear ended, so both are low risk as I see it. LPG is stored at around 100psi, it's under pressure, it is a bomb IF the tank has a serious whack.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 45 minutes ago, transam said: LPG is stored at around 100ps And CNG is at 3000 PSI so must be even more dangerous ? why no panic about natural gas vehicles just LPG ? don't both systems have a pressure relief valve built in to the tank the steel used is thick and hard to damage the "myhbusters" even shot them with various calibres of ammunition it took armour piercing incendiary bullets to cause a fire and still the tank didn't explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I recall a number of UK rides did have the petrol tank in the boot, original mini and the Ford Capri did. I had an alloy tank made to go in the boot of my fun ride, together with a nitrous oxide bottle (1000psi) but l first sealed off the cabin with a sheet of steel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 13 hours ago, bontang said: Re LPG Engine short life burns the valves , loads of people here in Thailand changed over to LPG & now having to change the Engine as there is no resale value on the engine Scrap value, Yeah years ago that was the case of lead fuel vehicle as the LPG provided no upper cylinder lubricant, since the introduction of kead free fuel cylinder heads now have hardened valve seats and this is no longer an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1955 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I have lpg on my Nissan Sunny , no regrets , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 For all concerned about Safety - http://www.go-lpg.co.uk/danger.html And the Winner is ..... LPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereinthailand Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I agree if you drive many km per year the lpg will save you money but for the average driver its not worth the cost of a quality install versus ROI. And you E85 fans should look at BTU values comparing e85 and regular petrol, yes that e85 is much cheaper but the loss in km/ltr does not add up to any savings. It will make you feel better not polluting as much burning all that alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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