Stroke order for อื

[thailandsgreat]

Can someone please tell me the stroke order(s) for the vowel components on top. Knowing that, I hope I could decipher fonts more easily. I even paid money for an app that was supposed to teach me that, but I am not sure it gave the only common stroke order.

 

For example, is the stroke order for the top component of อื as follows?

 

1. Lower horisontal stroke, left to right

2. Upper, curved horisontal stroke, right to left

3. Right, short vertical stroke, top to bottom

4. Left, short vertical stroke, top to bottom

 

(I have also assumed that any letter with a ring, starts at the ring.)

 

Thanks.

 

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[tgeezer]

Most people start above the last stroke of the consonant and scribe clockwise back to the begining finishing with a vertical sroke, lift the pen and make the second 'fon tong' downwards.
The letters are supposed to be started with the loop and the pen not lifted tp fprm the body of the letter, but calligraphy is done any way which suits


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[thailandsgreat]

10 minutes ago, tgeezer said:

Most people start above the last stroke of the consonant and scribe clockwise back to the begining finishing with a vertical sroke, lift the pen and make the second 'fon tong' downwards.
The letters are supposed to be started with the loop and the pen not lifted tp fprm the body of the letter, but calligraphy is done any way which suits


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Thank you. I got it:

1. Lower horisontal stroke from right to left

2. Upper curved horisontal stroke from left to right

3. Right short vertical stroke from bottom to top

4. Lift the pen

5. Left short vertical stroke from top to bottom

 

[Oxx]

There's an animation (and description) showing the correct stroke order for this character at http://thai-notes.com/reading/lesson12.shtml

 

Click on the large character near the bottom of the page to start the animation.

[thailandsgreat]

Thank you guys, you got me started on stroke order. Your discriptions are similar so that is obviously the common way.

When I look at some fonts I think there are also alternatives. The left short vertical stroke can come before the right one, which leaves the right one isolated, by itself.

Some fonts also seem to do the ring clockwise, which is opposite to the nice animation on the webpage you gave.

http://i.imgur.com/i4Qd4tI.png

(Paiboon app.)

[Oxx]

On 01/02/2017 at 5:56 PM, thailandsgreat said:

Your discriptions are similar so that is obviously the common way.

 

I would say it's the "correct" way, rather than the "common" way.  It's certainly the way that I was taught when studying Thai at a very serious institution for a very long time.  It also matches the J. Marvin Brown's AUA book on Writing Thai.  I'm pretty much 100% certain it's also the way that Thai children are taught to write.

 

If you don't start by writing the "correct" way, when you subsequently become more fluent at writing and start making shortcuts, those shortcuts will look wrong to native readers.  It's very much like the way that the English writing of Thai natives so often looks unnatural to native writers: students haven't been taught the correct way to form letters.

 

More generally, just because a word looks correct doesn't mean it's correct.  If the character sequence is wrong, or the wrong characters are used (e.g. เ+เ rather than แ), it may display OK, but searching will not find the word.

 

 

[thailandsgreat]

There's an animation (and description) showing the correct stroke order for this character at http://thai-notes.com/reading/lesson12.shtml

 

Click on the large character near the bottom of the page to start the animation.

I may have been too quick the first time I looked at the animations. I must correct my observation:

For the top component of อื the animation lifts the pen *twice* and both short vertical strokes are drawn from top to bottom. (Right stroke first.)