roiethome Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I was all set to go to Chang Wattana this week to do an extension for my marriage visa, have all documents ready, except for the ID card and Tabien Baan for the Juristic person for the Condo that we rent. My Thai wife explained why we needed it but she said she (Juristic Person) did not want to give it; no reason just didn't want to do it. Suspect they are driving farangs out of the condo ! We have a rental agreement and show monthly receipts. Has anyone had this problem and did they get an extension without the copy of ID and Tabien Baan. many thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Have you talked with president of condo association? Sometimes admin gets a bit full of themselves, forget they are supposed to be working for the owners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovethailandelite Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Why would you assume that the condo management has to give you anything? Your visa extensions are not there problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PoorSucker Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 They probably don't pay taxes on the rental income and are afraid to get caught. Sent from my Lenovo TB3-710F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovethailandelite Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, PoorSucker said: They probably don't pay taxes on the rental income and are afraid to get caught. Sent from my Lenovo TB3-710F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Why would you just expect people here to be giving copies of there ID and Tabien Baan when it is absolutely nothing to do with them for someone to get a visa extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said: Why would you just expect people here to be giving copies of there ID and Tabien Baan when it is absolutely nothing to do with them for someone to get a visa extension? If they want to rent out their property they should understand that a copy of their house book and ID card is required. Not sure but a rental agreement might not be valid for any use without proof of ownership of authority to act upon the owners part was not shown. My advise to anybody that plans on getting an extension make the house book and copy a requirement before signing the agreement. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedsada3 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's always difficult to give a copy of personal documents to a stranger... You should show her (juristic person) a print of the official site (in Thai) where they list the needed documents. maybe it will help. Tell her to write on the copies something like "for visa extension use only" with date and maybe your name and passport number... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted January 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jedsada3 said: It's always difficult to give a copy of personal documents to a stranger... Not sure that would apply to a Thai. They have to show and provide copies of their house book and ID card all the time to get things done. They put a line diagonal line across the copy and write the reason for the copy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) The documents you require is the ID and blue book of the "owner" of the condo you rent, the person you rent from. Nothing to do with the Juristic Person. Is your lease between you and the Juristic person ? The Juristic person would have a blue book, but not for the property you rent, the owner would have that. Juristic Person could possibly provide a letter from condo managment saying you live there. The JPs Blue book could be for a farm in issan, not the condo you rent. Edited January 31, 2017 by Peterw42 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiethome Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 The rentals with the owning company, the apartments are not owned by individuals. Also there is no committee at this block, very Thai type. Looks like I will need to move before I can apply for the visa extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) The Juristic person just wants to be paid for the effort. 300 baht Edited January 31, 2017 by Ulic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiethome Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Ulic said: The Juristic person just wants to be paid for the effort. 399 baht Tried this, no go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, roiethome said: The rentals with the owning company, the apartments are not owned by individuals. Also there is no committee at this block, very Thai type. Looks like I will need to move before I can apply for the visa extension. If it is a business that owns the apartment and its name is on the agreement a house book and ID copy would not be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, roiethome said: The rentals with the owning company, the apartments are not owned by individuals. Also there is no committee at this block, very Thai type. Looks like I will need to move before I can apply for the visa extension. OK, so its an older style apartment block not a condominium, therefore the person you refer to as the JP, is not the JP, he is a manager. Again, you dont require his ID or blue book, he is not the owner or the person you rent from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiethome Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks Ubonjoe, will check the agreement when I get back tonight, and keep fingers crossed it is with the building, not an individual, thanks again for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localczar Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Emster23 said: Have you talked with president of condo association? Sometimes admin gets a bit full of themselves, forget they are supposed to be working for the owners I hink OP is a renter, not the owner of the condo and would thus would not have any juristic rights....only the Chanote holder can have juristic status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khrai Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I went to Immigration at Chaeng Wattana last week for a one year extention of stay based on a non-immigrant OA visa. My wife and I only had a copy of the rental agreement of our condo (6 months) and copies of the proof that we payed the rent for the last 3 months. Nothing from the owner/juristic person. Everything in English. No problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue bruce Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I have had 4 extensions of my retirement visa at Chang Watanna and have never been asked for a copy of the owners book nor a copy of my lease. Maybe I 'm just lucky but I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 43 minutes ago, Blue bruce said: I have had 4 extensions of my retirement visa at Chang Watanna and have never been asked for a copy of the owners book nor a copy of my lease. Maybe I 'm just lucky but I don't think so. The OP is applying for an extension based upon marriage not retirement. For those they are stricter on their requirements for proof of residence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiethome Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Thanks to everyone for their contributions. Current lease is in the name of the manager of the condo block, so we decided to move out and found a farang friendly apartment block where he will provide copy of ID and Housebook. This gives me another problem ! My letter of income from the embassy has the old condo address on it. If I show lease from olden new apartment and explain why the move, does anyone think that CW Imm will accept the letter or do I have to get a new letter with the new apartment address - more expense. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, roiethome said: Thanks to everyone for their contributions. Current lease is in the name of the manager of the condo block, so we decided to move out and found a farang friendly apartment block where he will provide copy of ID and Housebook. This gives me another problem ! My letter of income from the embassy has the old condo address on it. If I show lease from olden new apartment and explain why the move, does anyone think that CW Imm will accept the letter or do I have to get a new letter with the new apartment address - more expense. thanks. Having a different address on the income letter should not be a problem. If needed showing your previous address should be enough to satisfy them you have recently moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roiethome Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Thanks Ubonjoe, will give it a try in a week or so, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygrr Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If you have changed address don't forget TM28 to notify change off address and TM30 notification from residence owner / manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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