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[webfact]

Austrian coalition deal includes ban on Muslim face veils

REUTERS

 

Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern (L) and Vice Chancellor Reinhold Mitterlehner address a news conference after a cabinet meeting in Vienna,Austria, January 30, 2017. REUTERS/Leonhard Foeger

 

VIENNA (Reuters) - Austria plans to ban the Muslim face veil in public places, the centrist coalition government said on Monday as it announced a package of policies aimed at countering the growing appeal of the far-right Freedom Party (FPO).

 

The FPO has topped opinion polls for months, boosted by Europe's migrant crisis and the influx of large numbers of often Muslim asylum seekers, and last month its candidate came close to winning Austria's presidential election.

 

With a parliamentary election due next year, Chancellor Christian Kern of the centre-left Social Democratic Party (SPO) is trying to regain the political initiative by forging a swift agreement with his conservative coalition partner on a package of measures ranging from immigration to education.

 

"We believe in an open society that is also based on open communication. Full-body veils in public spaces stand against that and will therefore be prohibited," said the text of the coalition agreement published on Monday.

 

The term used would apply to the Muslim burka and niqab, which cover all or most of the face. It was not immediately clear whether the ban would include other non-Muslim garments.

 

The FPO has called for a ban on "fascistic Islam" and Muslim symbols comparable to an existing law that forbids Nazi symbols. Mainly Catholic Austria is home to around 600,000 Muslims in a total population of about 8.7 million.

 

UNEMPLOYMENT

 

Members of the conservative People's Party, the junior coalition member, have pushed for tougher security and immigration measures, including the electronic tagging of former jihadists and greater use of video surveillance, which were also included in the new agreement.

 

The SPO has focused more on measures to cut unemployment, obtaining a programme to help over-50s find work.

 

The deal also included a reduction in social charges for employers that take on more staff and a plan to make foreign multinationals, particularly online companies, pay the same tax on advertising revenue as newspapers.

 

Unemployment in Austria currently stands at 5.9 percent, according to EU-harmonised data.

 

Earlier this month Kern proposed returning to a system that gave local workers priority for jobs in sectors that employ a high number of workers from poorer eastern European member states. A similar proposal was included in the agreement.

 

That system was in place provisionally from 2004 to 2011 after many former Communist countries joined the bloc, and Kern has said he wants to push for Brussels to allow its reintroduction.

 

Brussels is unlikely to accept such a demand because free movement of people is a key element of the EU's single market. Fear of unrestricted immigration from poorer member states was a key factor behind Britain's vote last June to leave the EU.

 

(Reporting by Francois Murphy, Kirsti Knolle and Shadia Nasralla; Editing by Gareth Jones)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-01

[Stargeezr]

Good on Austria, I hope many other countries do the same thing.

[12DrinkMore]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

free movement of people is a key element

 

I am totally for this.

 

They can all freely move back to where they came from.

[zorro1]

Yep they can go back to their deserts and wear what ever takes their fancy

[jollyhangmon]

Yesterdays news - i mean from yesterday out of Vienna/AT - 3 'young' Afghan refugees sentenced to 6/6/5 yrs slammer for rape of a 21 yr old student (female i might add ...). 2 raped, one 'only restrained'.

No remorse shown, their attorney pointed out their origin and the 'value' of women there but added this shouldn't be seen as an excuse.

Not fix yet as the prosecutor aims for higher fines.

 

Well, i think Austrias prisons would be more like a nice holiday-resort for this kind of people, however, you do not want to sit in there for this kind of crime (as opposed to Thailands gaols obviously, birds of a feather??), they should probably save up their butter on toast-day, they'll need it for sure ... 

 

Don't get me wrong here, we always had plenty of Muslims there, mainly from Turkey (mainly Kurds) and ex-Yugoslavia, they were welcome as 'guest workers', did good jobs usually and many of them stayed and are Austrian citizens long since, run businesses etc., the whole nine yards. I have several good Kurdish friends of up to 35 yrs myself.

 

But that's just a whole lot different from now! 

[ubonjoe]

Baiting and bickering post have been removed. Time to end it.

[bangon04]

" it announced a package of policies aimed at countering the growing appeal of the far-right  "

 

not because they genuinely feel they have allowed things to get out of hand or they genuinely feel they are doing the right thing for their country or they genuinely wish to improve the whole of the European Union......

[Galactus]

if you want to ban religious symbols, you need to ban them all. it does not matter how many sikhs etc live there. 

So where Austria stands now in Europe? a castle of fascism? footsteps of Nazis they cooperated before and durign ww2?

- Ban the immigrants

- Close the borders

- Ban anything muslim

- Be a good Christian

[Dagnabbit]

if you want to ban religious symbols, you need to ban them all. it does not matter how many sikhs etc live there. 
So where Austria stands now in Europe? a castle of fascism? footsteps of Nazis they cooperated before and durign ww2?
- Ban the immigrants
- Close the borders
- Ban anything muslim
- Be a good Christian

No you dont.

You can ban anything you like if you have the backing of the majority. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The veil is a sign of oppression. It has no place in modern society.

Women don't wear them by choice.


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[Galactus]

19 minutes ago, Dagnabbit said:

 

No you dont.

You can ban anything you like if you have the backing of the majority. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The veil is a sign of oppression. It has no place in modern society.

Women don't wear them by choice.


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dont get me wrong. i support the ban of veil and i would be pleased if they ban islam altogether from this world but along with all other religions.

i want other religions banned as well with their bloody symbols. not only islam as if you try to ban only islam things, it creates a sense of unfairness and more f ing islamist terrorist arise.

Edited February 2, 2017 by Galactus

[localczar]

23 hours ago, jollyhangmon said:

Yesterdays news - i mean from yesterday out of Vienna/AT - 3 'young' Afghan refugees sentenced to 6/6/5 yrs slammer for rape of a 21 yr old student (female i might add ...). 2 raped, one 'only restrained'.

No remorse shown, their attorney pointed out their origin and the 'value' of women there but added this shouldn't be seen as an excuse.

Not fix yet as the prosecutor aims for higher fines.

 

Well, i think Austrias prisons would be more like a nice holiday-resort for this kind of people, however, you do not want to sit in there for this kind of crime (as opposed to Thailands gaols obviously, birds of a feather??), they should probably save up their butter on toast-day, they'll need it for sure ... 

 

Don't get me wrong here, we always had plenty of Muslims there, mainly from Turkey (mainly Kurds) and ex-Yugoslavia, they were welcome as 'guest workers', did good jobs usually and many of them stayed and are Austrian citizens long since, run businesses etc., the whole nine yards. I have several good Kurdish friends of up to 35 yrs myself.

 

But that's just a whole lot different from now! 

hmmm...they are raping females? I thought they only raped boys....well....I will be dipped...

[jollyhangmon]

On 1.2.2017 at 10:39 AM, Stargrazer9889 said:

Good on Austria, I hope many other countries do the same thing.

 Ah, coming up with his lies again? As already stated yesterday, he's pretty full of it & obviously entirely oblivious of the truth.

 

I wouldn't even answer to that drivel if it wasn't for the one or other of yours who might be interested in FACTS, 'real' facts that is.

 

Folks, what you can see here is the perfect example for 'alternative facts' otherwise known as blatant lies. Period.

- Austria is 2nd or 3rd in EU in regard of taken-in refugees in ratio to it's population
- No 'ban' of immigrants (alternative fact = steaming bs = lie)
- No closed borders - if anything they're finally checking now who exactly wants in - highly necessary as proven in France, Belgium, Germany as well as AT itself recently (somebody missed out on the news-facts obviously, or they just aren't convenient ...) (again, as above) 
- Nothing 'Muslim' is banned. they've got plenty of mosques & praying rooms, free practice of religion for all & sundry as in the constitution (again, as above)
- Be a good Christian, what the ...?? see first point and otherwise keep your religious fantasies to yourself, thanx
- Austria - together with Germany - has the harshest laws against his implied (national-)socialist activities worldwide and they get readily applied if necessary which rarely is the case at all. Some idiots marching up in Nazi-symbols as possible in the US for instance would & do rot in jail in the good old AT.

P.S.: this steaming bullschlassach got thrown out already yesterday by the mods, a few days ago it were Israel and Mexico which are 'fascist' in his screwed up uninformed world-outlook. Hope & useless, waste of time & online-space actually ...

 

Thanks for the attention as i am 

Out.