Australian woman dead after colliding with husband's jetski at Kata Beach

[Don Mega]

16 minutes ago, Thechook said:

NO.

 

4 minutes ago, Essaybloke said:

Mate you can't do anything in Australia without a licence, planning permit, tax receipt, authority signed in triplicate, submitted, queried, resubmitted, re-taxed and make sure you're wearing a helmet and don't say or do anything one may construe as being in any way considered even vaguely 'offensive'.  Then you come to beautiful Thailand where it's comparatively 'free and easy' (that's one reason the tourists come) and the Thais get clobbered for it when the ordure hits the rapidly rotating propeller-driven cooling device. 

 

 

Interesting, a quick google suggests there is many hire companies breaking the law then.

[elgordo38]

1 minute ago, Fookhaht said:

Yeah, I was on the defensive. A previous post of mine posing the same question was thrown out as a troll post. Sorry for overreacting.


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no probs.

[Essaybloke]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

 

Interesting, a quick google suggests there is many hire companies breaking the law then.

Yeah mate, I'm not surprised. They have to make a bob despite the rules. Mind you, I'm just a 'bush' lawyer ha ha 

[farcanell]

2 hours ago, Wake Up said:

You don't have to warn adults about the dangers of driving a high speed motorcycle on water. Wake up. 

And Thailand is just one of many countries that rent jet skis and motor bikes to tourist so are all the other counties farang money grubbers also? 

 

Adults get to make adult decisions.  Nothing wrong with that and I prefer it over the nanny state dictating what adults can and cannot do. 

 

RIP to the young woman and peace to the young man. Accidents happen and life is worth living. 

I dunno.... I just inflated some low speed water lounges, and when I flipped them over.... well... bugger me, there was this F off big warning on them.... dangerous Chinese death traps.

 

 

[ripstanley]

3 hours ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

and the reason it was on TV In Australia 'so young and beautiful'. Why am i having a Michelle Corby moment?

Who is Michelle Corby? 

I have heard of Schapelle Corby. 

[farcanell]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

Can one rent a jetski in Australia  without a licence ?

Perhaps like Thailand ( don't know ) you are required to have a license ( for anything over 6hp, I think ) .... but not having one does not stop you from hiring a jet ski.... just like Thailand. ( as can be seen from the attached ad by Queensland hire company)

 

 

 

[ripstanley]

The boyfriend is to be charged with his girlfriends death.  Please read the attached link to the new news item.

 

 

[ThaiWai]

I don't see how you could issue a license for jetskis.  There is only one rule.  Don't hit anything at high speed.  Would be a pretty short exam but it's apparent some people would still fail it.

[Destiny1990]

When they run over eachother i find it less disturbing then when they run over a swimmer.

How is it with the mandatory insurancy policy included in with the jet ski rental ?

[Winkburn]

11 hours ago, jacko45k said:

That is so sad.....  talk of requiring a 'licence' is rather out of place, most countries do not have such a thing.

Surely they were having fun, but were playing a dangerous game and it can only be described as misadventure.

 

The husband will have many years of regret.

Your so right In Australia you can hire a jet ski and a 50cc motorbike on the Gold Coast without a licence. Enough of Thai bashing RIP young lady

[Winkburn]

8 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Tragic. Just ban them, they make a terrible noise, and are dangerous to both the users, and to swimmers.

Yes just ban cars motorbikes boats as well that will fix the problems

[stevenl]

Yes just ban cars motorbikes boats as well that will fix the problems

Cars and boats have a practical purpose, jetskis are purely for entertainment of a few, but damaging and irritating for many.

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[SS1]

13 hours ago, happyas said:

AFAIK you absolutely by Thai law do need a licence for a jet ski.

A boat captains licence is required, and if this was enforced very few people would be able to rent a jetski.

However, as in most cases here, motorbikes, jetskis etc, surely if you have not the ability to safely enjoy the use of one commonmsense would prevail.

Sadly it appears that common sense these days is as rare as a boat captains licence.

Oh yes, you are totally right. Did not mean it in a legal way, but rather in a practical way that you don't really need much teaching to be able to use one on open waters (comparing to e.g. car or motorcycle).

 

On the other hand in Finland, where everything else is super strict, the law says that if you are under 15 year old you cannot drive a boat with more than 20 horsepower alone. If you are older, you can drive a boat of any size as long as its not commercial. Accidents are minimal and there are a lot of boats in Finland! Most accidents happen to drunk people. 

 

13 hours ago, simon43 said:

Perhaps if they installed a speed limiter on the jetskis, then accidents like this would not be able to happen, (low speed perhaps).

Well, the point of jet skis is that they go fast, otherwise can rent a sea kayak or a paddle duck :)

[Dumbastheycome]

The  muppets  that arrive here as  tourists  maybe  should  be informed.... You do what you do at  your own risk.  If  you do harm to  another you are  responsible and likely to  be  made so...there is  no nanny  state  to save  your stupid  rear end.... Please  tick the  box to say  you  have read and assumed to actually comprehend !

[hawker9000]

Common sense and risk awareness simply cannot be legislated, yet governments everywhere keep trying to do it resulting in reams of legal crap on the books which just invite manipulation and exploitation by lawyers, insurance companies,  & politicians, feed the "studies and reports" industry, and ultimately produce little besides public disdain and disrespect for the legal system.  It's the "easy way", simple-minded approach so beloved by do-gooder, nanny-state proponents everywhere.  If parents, schools, youth groups, etc., don't succeed in cultivating these values early on in life, it just doesn't happen and everyone is endangered by that failure.  Keep making all the rules you want, people will still find ways to do stupid things and injure or kill themselves and others.  If there's something in real need of being licensed, it's probably parenting...

 

 

[SiSePuede419]

"Personal watercraft have no braking mechanism. They coast to a stop, and while coasting, there is no turning ability." 

 

Jet skis are just as safe as cars, motorcycles or bicycles that HAVE NO BRAKES.  

 

DOH!?

[jacko45k]

8 hours ago, stevenl said:

Cars and boats have a practical purpose, jetskis are purely for entertainment of a few, but damaging and irritating for many.

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Aren't they used by lifeguards in many places?

[stevenl]

On 2/6/2017 at 6:19 AM, Briggsy said:

The boyfriend will now be charged for the damage in line with previous Phuket jetski incidents.

You're wrong.

 

From the Phuket News:

“The owner of the two jet-skis did not want money for the damage because he wants Phuket to have a good reputation as a holiday destination,” Lt Patiwat said.

[Don Mega]

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You're wrong.

 

From the Phuket News:

“The owner of the two jet-skis did not want money for the damage because he wants Phuket to have a good reputation as a holiday destination,” Lt Patiwat said.

The insurance they are required to have should cover the repairs/replacement.

[Briggsy]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

You're wrong.

 

From the Phuket News:

“The owner of the two jet-skis did not want money for the damage because he wants Phuket to have a good reputation as a holiday destination,” Lt Patiwat said.

That what is said to the press. The money may be rebadged as a payment for no charges or bail for the boyfriend. Jetski guys will want to be paid if there is real damage to the jetskis.

[Skeptic7]

Tragic accidents happen every day, every where regardless of limits, warnings and licenses. Young people are naturally reckless and think they are bulletproof and invulnerable to harm...death does not even enter their equation. 

 

Just a few weeks ago, a 91 y.o. was skewered by a falling tree branch just strolling along the beach in Jomtien. 

 

Tragic accidents happen...always have always will and in some/many cases despite every possible precaution.

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, Briggsy said:

That what is said to the press. The money may be rebadged as a payment for no charges or bail for the boyfriend. Jetski guys will want to be paid if there is real damage to the jetskis.

Nonsense, you just want to get your Thai pestering in.

[jimlek]

On 06/02/2017 at 7:02 AM, Thechook said:

Exactly what I said.  Making it compulsory to have a licence would destroy the industry and money is far more important than a farang seriously injuring themselves or dying.

Nowhere that I know of requires jet ski riders to be licenced,not just Thailand. 

[farcanell]

5 minutes ago, jimlek said:

Nowhere that I know of requires jet ski riders to be licenced,not just Thailand. 

Seek and you will find.

 

this from transport.gov.au. .... now you know better.

 

 

[Blackheart1916]

1 hour ago, jimlek said:

Nowhere that I know of requires jet ski riders to be licenced,not just Thailand. 

Australia requires a powered watercraft licence, about 4 hours of theory instruction, similar to boat licence, and $150 gets it for you.

[AGareth2]

terrible accident

sad for the girl's family

and for the lad who will now pay the 'price"

[Docno]

21 hours ago, Thechook said:

But refusing them the hire because they didn't have a licence would have save her life.  A licence doesn't save a life yes but not getting on a "RENTED"  jet ski without one Would.

Hmmm... I'm of the view that just because the occasional idiot kills themselves doing something we shouldn't regulate the activity or require licenses. With your logic, we'll soon need a license to ride a bicycle or climb a ladder...

[4MyEgo]

7 minutes ago, Docno said:

Hmmm... I'm of the view that just because the occasional idiot kills themselves doing something we shouldn't regulate the activity or require licenses. With your logic, we'll soon need a license to ride a bicycle or climb a ladder...

Anything that has the potential to kill you or someone else should be regulated, and the appropriate license obtained.

 

It is unfortunate for this girls family and the guy losing the love of his life, he will live, he will move on and love again, the family will remain with an emptiness in the hearts for ever, and the jet ski operators will forget about this as soon as another customer rents their jet ski's, wake up Thailand, wake up any country that doesn't license such machines that can kill you or anyone else for that matter, regulations/licenses do help in reducing loss of life, and anyone that thinks differently is a clown IMO.

 

Unfortunately in Thailand we will not see regulation or licensing of this nature because its just not the norm, but banning beach chairs is one step in the right direction isn't it ?

[Alan Deer]

There were some posts earlier that suggested that common sense could be applied t5o this - or riding a jet ski. Unfortunately common sense is really only a figure of speach.....it has little real meaning especially in these circumstances.....all you need to do is THINK what common sense actually means - its bleived to be a shared logic and value system which clearly can't exist.

just take a quick look at this, it explains it quite clearly.....

"Common sense is neither common nor sense. There's not a whole of sound judgment going on these days (though whether it is worse than in the past, I can't be sure), so it's not common. If common sense was common, then most people wouldn't make the kinds of decisions they do every day. People wouldn't buy stuff they can't afford. They wouldn't smoke cigarettes or eat junk food. They wouldn't gamble. And if you want to get really specific and timely, politicians wouldn't be tweeting pictures of their private parts to strangers. In other words, people wouldn't do the multitude of things that are clearly not good for them.

And common sense isn't real sense, if we define sense as being sound judgment,.........."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-power-prime/201107/common-sense-is-neither-common-nor-sense

This  is why people need regulating before being allowed on these machines - most of which are too powerful to meet the minimum rental safety requirements in countries like Oz and USA.

[madmax2]

People should read their travel insurance which all sensible tourists  should have, no Aussie insurance policy i know of will cover you for riding a jet ski, or riding a motorcycle without a license, some wont even cover you if you are a passenger on a motorcycle in Thailand,its not hard to work out why

Some people make successful claims by claiming they were a passenger on a bike and supplying a letter to confirm this from some authority if the insurance will cover you as a passenger on a motorcycle , but no one is supposed to be on a jet ski as far as the insurance is concerned

Just making the operators put signs up telling people their insurance companies will not cover them for damage or accident would stop a lot of people riding them but not all that's for sure