Trump - militant attacks 'all over Europe,' some not reported

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Trump - militant attacks 'all over Europe,' some not reported

By Steve Holland

REUTERS

 

U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to commanders and coalition representatives during a visit to U.S. Central Command and U.S. Special Operations Command at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida, U.S., February 6, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

 

TAMPA (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Monday accused the news media of ignoring attacks by Islamist militants in Europe, without giving specific examples.

 

Trump, who has made defeating Islamic State a core goal of his presidency, did not specify which attacks were going unreported, which news media organizations were ignoring them, or offer details to support his claims.

 

"All over Europe, it's happening. It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported," he told a group of about 300 U.S. troops at MacDill Air Force Base in Florida.

 

"And, in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it. They have their reasons, and you understand that," he added, without saying what those reasons were.

 

Pressed by reporters later on Trump’s remarks, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said the Trump administration would provide a list of unreported or under-reported attacks, adding "there's several instances."

 

"There's a lot of instances that have occurred where I don’t think they've gotten the coverage it deserved," Spicer said.It was Trump's latest salvo against the news media, a favourite target for derision who he says broadly underestimated his chances during the presidential campaign. He has kept up the attacks since his Jan. 20 inauguration.

 

Trump at one point cited attacks in the French cities of Paris and Nice, which were widely covered. More than 230 people have died in France alone in the past two years at the hands of attackers allied to Islamic State.

 

Al Tompkins at The Poynter Institute, a Florida-based journalism school, dismissed Trump's criticism.

 

"To suggest that journalists have some reason not to report ISIS attacks is just outlandish," Tompkins said, using an acronym for Islamic State.

 

(Reporting by Steve Holland, additional reporting by Idrees Ali and Susan Heavey, writing by Phil Stewart)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-02-07

[Thian]

It's true, European newspapers try to downplay or not report attacks all the time.

[stevenl]

Looking forward to Spencer's list.

 

But they're changing their tone already, in stead of 'not reported attacks' it has turned into 'under reported attacks'. Trump being his usual self again.

[craigt3365]

15 minutes ago, Thian said:

It's true, European newspapers try to downplay or not report attacks all the time.

I find it hard to believe a terrorist attack on European soil would not be reported.  It's big news, generates lots of revenue for the one with the scoop, and would be sought after by every major news agency.

 

Perhaps very small incidents wouldn't be in the major papers, but guaranteed they'd be in the local papers.  Kinda like not seeing every murder in Las Vegas being reported by the NY Times.

[SlyAnimal]

Given that the general feeling of most non-Americans, is that many Americans (Particularly Trump supporters) neither know, nor really care, about what happens outside of their country if it doesn't affect America, I wouldn't be surprised if "The dishonest press doesn't want to report it" was more in reference to the fact that Trump, his aides and his voters, simply didn't know about all of the attacks that happened in Europe because they don't watch the world news.

Although in saying that, terrorist attacks happen in places like Africa & Asia that aren't reported on much by the international media.  Like if someone got executed and then set on fire as part of a terrorist attack in the UK or USA, it'd be all over the headlines, but when it happens in the south of Thailand it only really gets attention within Thailand (And even most Thais don't really care because it's in the south, and everyone knows that stuff happens all the time lol). 

Edited February 7, 2017 by SlyAnimal

[Gecko123]

I have been reading French on-line newspapers ( Le Figaro, Le Monde, L'Express, Paris-Match, French Reuters, France 24, La Voix du Nord) daily for the past 9 months, with particular interest in crime and terrorism events. My impression is that the French media do an excellent job of reporting terrorism stories, even small events and plots which are thwarted. Terrorism is of great interest to the public and these stories attract many readers. Trump's wild and unfounded allegation that European news outlets are downplaying terrorism insults the integrity of news services and the intelligence of people around the world.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Gecko123

[rucus7]

Sometimes I wonder what color the sky is in Trumps world . 

[SlyAnimal]

Sometimes I wonder what color the sky is in Trumps world . 

I believe that it's whatever damn colour he says it is! And any statistics, facts or science that says otherwise are obviously just lies invented by the dishonest media, corrupt Hiliary, or Jhina.

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[craigt3365]

10 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

Trump's wild and unfounded allegation that European news outlets are downplaying terrorism insults the integrity of news services and the intelligence of people around the world.

As do members here saying the same thing about MSM sites.  It just trolling.

 

Good post!

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, Thian said:

It's true, European newspapers try to downplay or not report attacks all the time.

I cannot speak about continental European newspapers, but in the UK we have some rabidly anti-Eu, anti-immigrant newspapers. What possible motive would they have to downplay such incidents, if they took place?

 

 

[DM07]

What a bunch of BS! 

[Langsuan Man]

This is what you get when you have a  stream of consciousness  president 

 

He thinks it, spits it out, and everyone around him is charged with proving that it is true 

[heybruce]

More alternative facts from the Trump administration.  We can add them to the list that include "largest inaugural audience in history", "millions of illegal votes for Hillary", "the majority of Americans support the travel ban" and, of course, "the Bowling Green massacre".

 

[robblok]

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

I cannot speak about continental European newspapers, but in the UK we have some rabidly anti-Eu, anti-immigrant newspapers. What possible motive would they have to downplay such incidents, if they took place?

 

 

Same applies for the Netherlands there are newspapers that will make sure every incident is magnified.. so no under reporting at all. There is lots of money to be made by selling newspapers.. these articles are read a lot so they are certainly reported.

[ilostmypassword]

Anyway, just recently breitbart.com reported an incident where an angry mob of Muslims burned down a church in Germany.  None of the MSM reported it.

[SlyAnimal]

7 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Anyway, just recently breitbart.com reported an incident where an angry mob of Muslims burned down a church in Germany.  None of the MSM reported it.

https://www.thelocal.de/20170105/german-media-blasts-misleading-breitbart-reports-of-violence-on-new-years

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church

 

Sounds like it wasn't reported on that much because it was sensationalized news that attempted to mislead readers and distort the facts in order to appeal to an anti-immigrant right wing audience.

 

But yeah, the guardian's report also references a report that a former Breitbart editor is one of Trump's advisors, which shows an interesting connection.

[lungmi]

It was a breitband fake news.

[whatawonderfulday]

delusional, totally bonkers along with those that voted him in, with Russian help of course.

[ilostmypassword]

Just now, lungmi said:

It was a breitband fake news.

Oh no! Not really1 You mean that Breitbart would do something so base as to invent a Muslim mob burning down a church. But that would be so irresponsible. That could trigger a violent counter-reaction from German neo-Nazis. That's a terrible thing to say about the leading media source for America's white nationalist movement.

[ilostmypassword]

4 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

And it was proven to be BS reporting from breitbart.com.  A site not worth reading.  Obviously the MSM didn't report on it.  Breitbart click bait and some obviously fell for it.  Fake news.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church

 

 

Next thing you know you'll be saying that there weren't 3-5 million illegal alien voters and that every one of their votes went for Hillary Clinton.  And that wasn't said by Breitbart but by our President!

[craigt3365]

4 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Next thing you know you'll be saying that there weren't 3-5 million illegal alien voters and that every one of their votes went for Hillary Clinton.  And that wasn't said by Breitbart but by our President!

And you believe everything Trump says! LOL

[Chicog]

12 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Next thing you know you'll be saying that there weren't 3-5 million illegal alien voters and that every one of their votes went for Hillary Clinton.  And that wasn't said by Breitbart but by our President!

Whose puppet master chief adviser happens to be the former Breitbart head.

 

Well versed in the art of telling outright lies reporting "alternative facts".

Edited February 7, 2017 by Chicog

[Thian]

3 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

I find it hard to believe a terrorist attack on European soil would not be reported.  It's big news, generates lots of revenue for the one with the scoop, and would be sought after by every major news agency.

 

Perhaps very small incidents wouldn't be in the major papers, but guaranteed they'd be in the local papers.  Kinda like not seeing every murder in Las Vegas being reported by the NY Times.

So you call an asylumseeker raping a European girl a small incident right? Or hundred of them raping loads of ladies is also an incident?

 

Or big groups of them terrorizing whole villages where they got free homes/food/pocketmoney/washingmachines and so on....They know they will be kicked out soon so they do whatever pleases them.

 

 

[craigt3365]

3 minutes ago, Thian said:

So you call an asylumseeker raping a European girl a small incident right? Or hundred of them raping loads of ladies is also an incident?

 

Or big groups of them terrorizing whole villages where they got free homes/food/pocketmoney/washingmachines and so on....They know they will be kicked out soon so they do whatever pleases them.

Where did I say that?  This is about incidents like this NOT being reported.  If you can find one, please post it here!

[SlyAnimal]

Where did I say that?  This is about incidents like this NOT being reported.  If you can find one, please post it here!

Haha that's the conundrum though isn't it.

If he can find a report from a reputable source of it, then it's reported.

If the only source is a source that has a reputation for biased sensationalized reports or fake news then it won't be trusted by non-trump supporters.

And if nothing can be found then maybe it's a coverup by the corrupt media organizations that are really controlled by muslims that want to eradicate western civilization. Like Obama, who was secretly Muslim and trying to destroy the United States from within!!


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[Thian]

11 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Where did I say that?  This is about incidents like this NOT being reported.  If you can find one, please post it here!

There are LOADS of them but they don't make it to the big newspapers....Many even don't make it to the small local newspapers at all since they are censured by lefties and also the police won't report them. Guess why!

 

Just learn some languages mate and read the local newspapers.

[heybruce]

24 minutes ago, Thian said:

So you call an asylumseeker raping a European girl a small incident right? Or hundred of them raping loads of ladies is also an incident?

 

Or big groups of them terrorizing whole villages where they got free homes/food/pocketmoney/washingmachines and so on....They know they will be kicked out soon so they do whatever pleases them.

 

Care to provide news sources supporting these claims?  If not, how do you know about them?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

From what I've seen of the media coverage and analysis of it in Europe, supposedly in a lot of countries like Germany and some of the Nordic countries, there's supposedly been a tendency by the media to avoid mentioning if the perpetrators of crimes are Islamic immigrants/refugees.  The crime may get reported, but not (the detail of) who's believed responsible for it.

 

That's not the same thing as the media failing to report or underreporting supposed terrorist attacks, which I haven't seen any evidence of. But it definitely is under-reporting the extent of crime and other problems caused by Muslim immigrants and refugees in those communities.

[Estrada]

Hitler and his far right Nazi white supremacist movement rose to power by inventing fear of communists, but that did not work very well. He therefore attacked the Jews which led to the torture and massacre of Millions of Jews in Europe. The United States White supremacists and American Nazi party sent back Jewish refugees to Germany who were then slaughtered in the Nazi concentration camps. No surprise, as President Bush's Grandfather backed the Nazi's and US banks bankrolled Hitler's war effort. Henry Ford is even mentioned in Mein Kampf as he was an inspiration to Hitler. IBM supplied technology, GM and Opel built factories and provided designs to build military vehicles, and plans for Hitler's war efforts. Standard Oil supplied the fuel oil to keep Hitler's tanks and plans capable of killing the Europeans fighting against him and bombing the UK.

 

GM was an integral part of the German war effort. The Nazis could not have invaded Poland and Russia without GM.” The GM and Ford plants in Germany relied on slave labour including Jews who eventually would die in the concentration camps. The United States only stopped backing Hitler on December 8th 1941 after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour the previous day.

 

With the rise again of the far right Nazis in the US (Alt.Right) and Europe once again they are spreading hate and fear against a religious group and unless these people are stopped then we are heading for WWIII.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Estrada

[Thian]

37 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Care to provide news sources supporting these claims?  If not, how do you know about them?

Because i can read (and do read) many european languages and read local newspapers.

 

It's even gone that far now that they won't mention anything about the offender...no personal information at all. Not for rapists, bankrobbers, houserobbers, carthieves and so on. They just publish the crime but never let readers help finding the victims.

 

This is because the reporters have been threatened at their desks and they are very scared people. Even if i put links here of what happened in Europe you can't read the language and second you can't read between the lines. Europe has educated reporters only who know very well what information they should give about the criminals but they don't do it!

 

Even when the golden watch from grandma is ripped of her wrist and she saw the guys they won't publish anything, just that it happened. So how can readers help finding the criminal? It's going back in time for a decade and they all should get punished for not letting readers help find the criminals. That will happen as soon as we have our own mr Trumps...and they are coming soon.