Will 5 Months,10 days passport (validity) entry be problematic

[MikaQ5]

Will my  passport with the above days validity allow me entry to Thailand ??  - I have a Thai Elite PE VISA ( so probably Will have one of their lovely assistants at the Imm counter with me, to help smooth issues ) - 

I only intend to stay 3odd months ,but I won't have the time to get a new passport Before my intended arrival date 

Is this. A strict rule. In Thailand 

Any helpful info. Appreciated

[ukrules]

I believe it's all about whether the airline allow you to board the flight during the final 6 months.

 

From what I've heard the answer is often 'no'.

[HooHaa]

thailand only requires validity for the duration of the visa you will have. ie if you are expecting a tourist voa  you need more time than 1 month.

i have flown in and out of thailand many times on less than 6 months.

[MikaQ5]

5 minutes ago, ukrules said:

I believe it's all about whether the airline allow you to board the flight during the final 6 months.

 

From what I've heard the answer is often 'no'.

Would a checking in online /printing boarding card etc not circumvent that possibility ??  ( I would not think the passport expiry date would be scrutinised at the boarding gate by the flight attendants )

[MikaQ5]

10 minutes ago, HooHaa said:

thailand only requires validity for the duration of the visa you will have. ie if you are expecting a tourist voa  you need more time than 1 month.

i have flown in and out of thailand many times on less than 6 months.

"thailand only requires validity for the duration of the visa"

 

You are sure. It's not a minimum. 6 Months requirement 

 

Thanks for the. Reply 

[HooHaa]

it is not a minimum 6 month requirement. 

however you may have issues with the check in desk if they are unaware of it. 

you may want to find a copy of the order, but sadly often even thai consular sites have wrong information. 

worth your while to search around though.

[ubonjoe]

You can check here to find the info about the passport requirements for your nationality here on this site that gives the IATA Timatic web info.

https://www.skyteam.com/en/flights-and-destinations/visa-and-health/

 

[MikaQ5]

16 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can check here to find the info about the passport requirements for your nationality here on this site that gives the IATA Timatic web info.

https://www.skyteam.com/en/flights-and-destinations/visa-and-health/

 

Thanks for the link

After inputting my details( Inc the passport expiry date )  I got a green ✅ and a blank space (for required docs ) 

(No mention of. Passport validity requirements etc ) 

 

Which I would take as that it's "ok"to travel ( i Qualify for VISA exempt ) so don't need a tourist. VISA issued by. A Thai embassy etc 

= the blank space for. Required docs 

 

 

[elviajero]

It shouldn't affect your trip, however, FYI. The PE visa gives you permission to stay for 1 year every time you enter, but you should expect that they will only give permission until the passport expires.

[MikaQ5]

34 minutes ago, HooHaa said:

it is not a minimum 6 month requirement. 

however you may have issues with the check in desk if they are unaware of it. 

you may want to find a copy of the order, but sadly often even thai consular sites have wrong information. 

worth your while to search around though.

I'm just passing. 180 min searching lol 

 

Your information I believe is correct - and after reading 50 odd posts of a 80 post topic on tripadvisor ( and other sites today )

- It seems. Thailand. Scrapped the 6 month rule a number of years ago but many sites haven't updated this info ( as well as airlines such as air Asia additionally enforce a 6 month rule regardless of the country of disembarkation ) causes further confusion 

 

Thanks for the replies. 

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[MikaQ5]

2 minutes ago, elviajero said:

It shouldn't affect your trip, however, FYI. The PE visa gives you permission to stay for 1 year every time you enter, but you should expect that they will only give permission until the passport expires.

 

Indeed , but I have then the time whilst in Thailand to get  a new passport , and. I'll leave it to Thai Elite to arrange. Any. Further extension if required into a new passport 

 

 ( e.g. if I was already  In the country on a PE 1 year stay ( dated  from  arrival entry ),and. If Wished. to extend that initial year  - it's my belief that. I don t need exit AND enter afresh --that. The. Thai Elite staff ( or prob myself going to. Imm? ) Will facilitate this. 

 

In your opinion Am I correct. In this. Assumption ?

 

[BritTim]

According to the Thai immigration rules you are OK, but should not get the usual one year entry permission, only entry until expiry of your passport, assuming immigration notices your passport expiry date. As a general principle, I think it very unwise to travel on a soon-to-expire passport. It can cause many complications. For instance, when you leave Thailand just to return to home country, you may have problems being unable to use certain transit locations for your trip.

[elviajero]

14 minutes ago, MikaQ5 said:

Thanks for the link

After inputting my details( Inc the passport expiry date )  I got a green ✅ and a blank space (for required docs ) 

(No mention of. Passport validity requirements etc ) 

 

Which I would take as that it's "ok"to travel ( i Qualify for VISA exempt ) so don't need a tourist. VISA issued by. A Thai embassy etc 

= the blank space for. Required docs 

Probably because your passport expires more than 6 months from today.

 

You shouldn't rely on that website or the fact that Thai immigration do only require a passport for the validity of your stay. You should contact the airline you're flying with because it's only their policy that counts.

[elviajero]

1 minute ago, MikaQ5 said:

 

Indeed , but I have then the time whilst in Thailand to get  a new passport , and. I'll leave it to Thai Elite to arrange. Any. Further extension if required into a new passport 

 

 ( e.g. if I was already  In the country on a PE 1 year stay ( dated  from  arrival entry ),and. If Wished. to extend that initial year  - it's my belief that. I don t need exit AND enter afresh --that. The. Thai Elite staff ( or prob myself going to. Imm? ) Will facilitate this. 

 

In your opinion Am I correct. In this. Assumption ?

 

You can apply for a 1 year extension at immigration for 1,900 baht. No need to exit. You must apply yourself, but I believe a TE rep will go with you for a small fee.

[MikaQ5]

4 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Probably because your passport expires more than 6 months from today.

 

You shouldn't rely on that website or the fact that Thai immigration do only require a passport for the validity of your stay. You should contact the airline you're flying with because it's only their policy that counts.

I actually inputted. The expiry date as under the 6 Months 

 

 

[elviajero]

4 minutes ago, MikaQ5 said:

I actually inputted. The expiry date as under the 6 Months 

Ok, but my advice still stands as this website result would only be valid if your airline use the same system.

 

I don't know your nationality, but I tried it as a Brit travelling from London with 5 months passport validity and it failed. When I tried with 7 months it passed.

[ubonjoe]

27 minutes ago, elviajero said:

You shouldn't rely on that website or the fact that Thai immigration do only require a passport for the validity of your stay. You should contact the airline you're flying with because it's only their policy that counts.

If the airline is a member of the IATA they will go by the Timatic info.

Some low cost carriers have a 6 month rule stated in their terms and conditions (for example Air Asia).

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, elviajero said:

I don't know your nationality, but I tried it as a Brit travelling from London with 5 months passport validity and it failed. When I tried with 7 months it passed.

I entered the info for a passport expiring June 30th of 2017 and got this.

Quote

Summary

 

 

Conditional, The traveler will need to hold travel documents as detailed below.

Type: Notice

 

Thailand - Destination Passport

 

 

 

Passport required.

 

Document validity rules:

Passports issued to nationals of USA must be valid for the period of intended stay.

 

[elviajero]

39 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I entered the info for a passport expiring June 30th of 2017 and got this.

The fact that it says USA nationals only need a passport valid for the duration of their stay and Brits need at least 6 months proves the system is wrong/unreliable.

 

IMO option the best advice is to check with the actual carrier.

[MikaQ5]

This is another IATA link which supports assumption that 6 Months passport validity is no longer required (it changed in Dec 2011according to some websites )
But there is a 3 month requirement as far as I can gather ???-- it's as clear. As mud frankly ,but I am going to. Abide with ubonjoes site and this

http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/TH-Thailand-passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm

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[khunPer]

On 3/1/2017 at 10:50 AM, ukrules said:

I believe it's all about whether the airline allow you to board the flight during the final 6 months.

 

From what I've heard the answer is often 'no'.

That might be very true...

I went to Singapore last summer with 5 month and 20 days left in my passport – I was only going to be away for 3 nights and had a return ticket, but the kind lady at check-in did check my passport and made me aware of the problem; i.e. she could not check me in, but she was kind enough to call for her boss, who phoned someone more important, that phoned Immigration in Singapore – at the end they let me board the plane after signing a document, that I was aware of the situation and would recover any costs the airline might have, in case of refusal of my entry; i.e. I believe that meant, pay for an extra ticket back.

 

At Thai Immigration the officer made me aware of the lack of six month, but stamped me out of the Kingdom, as my passport duration was a few weeks longer than my extension of permission to stay in the Kingdom – i.e. I was going to return to Thailand again on my re-entry permission, after my Singapore visit.

 

After all – and I was little, but only little nervous when arriving Singapore and passing through Immigration, but no problem, just a big smile and welcome – and I continued straight to Johor, Malaysia, another border pass, but also no problem there; and back agian.

 

In the end it's (always, to my knowledge) up to the Immigration Officer to permit someone in, but first you need to board an airplane. Why not check with the airline; it may be complicated and time consuming with permission, letter and signing at check-in – and what if you miss your plane..?

[sandyf]

On 3/1/2017 at 7:17 PM, elviajero said:

The fact that it says USA nationals only need a passport valid for the duration of their stay and Brits need at least 6 months proves the system is wrong/unreliable.

 

IMO option the best advice is to check with the actual carrier.

Your right it is a potential problem. A few years back I was refused boarding by China Airlines at Amsterdam. I asked to see the supervisor and explained it was an oversight and that I was only going for three weeks. She was very helpful and said her only option was to check with Thai Immigration. She rung immigration in Bangkok and they said it would be ok if she could confirm the validity of the return ticket.

It is a bit of a risk to rely on an airline without some sort of confirmation.

[onekoolguy]

If trying to fly the airline will probably not issue a boarding pass. Has happened to a family member the day before a trip to Bali. Big problem! Just get it renewed now!