jaywalker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Blindedbythelight said: Bangkok Post, gets money from the Discovery Channel; to advertise; so cannot believe this paper. Yeah....Just blindly believe every thing the corrupt cops and judiciary in Thailand say is safer I suppose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, impulse said: Here's something to ponder next time you're landing at Swampy: Results demonstrated that "92% of the bills were positive for cocaine with a mean amount of 28.75+/-139.07 micrograms per bill, a median of 1.37 μg per bill, and a range of 0.01-922.72 μg per bill. Heroin was detected in seven bills in amounts ranging from 0.03 to 168.5 μg per bill: 6-AM and morphine were detected in three bills; methamphetamine and amphetamine in three and one bills, respectively, and PCP was detected in two bills in amounts of 0.78 and 1.87 μg per bill. Codeine was not detected in any of the one-dollar bills analyzed". (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_currency) Any one of us with a few $100 bills in our pocket could be next. She had 200-250 micro-grams on her. Wonder how the members of the "hang-em-high, they know the rules" brigade would feel if it was their loved one? ...it says 250 miligrams in the article I think.. Enough for a "toot" I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindedbythelight Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, jaywalker said: Yeah....Just blindly believe every thing the corrupt cops and judiciary in Thailand say is safer I suppose? If someone wanted to frame her; you don't do at the airport. You get the cops to stop her car for any fake reason. If gives them the chance to search her car, purse or any bags in the car. They would then drop 500 g of coke in the car. Not just enough coke to do a few lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, robblok said: Yes that is true, problem is many people can handle drugs quite wel, but a minority can't those are the guys that turn into monsters after alcohol or any other drugs. The majority uses drugs has fun and then return to a normal life. Its all about how often you drink and how you handle it. Quite a few people can't even do without alcohol (see the posts when there is a dry day). They are just as addicted as some other drug addicts. Its just that some can handle stuff and others can't Unfortunately for those who can the lawmakers have decided to make use criminal even if they don't do any other crimes, they do so to protect the weaker people who can't handle it. (not that its really working.. but its kinda a damm if you do damm if you dont scenario) You're right. I have known boozers/alcoholics who have died of their addiction, then again, many who have no problem with it. Then again, I have an old mate who has done every drug known to man and is pushing 70. I've also known guys who've died in their 30's from drugs, and one who is nearly 60 and is HIV+, I believe from intrvavenous heroin use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Rykbanlor said: This forum is still riddled with the sad elderly white male narrow perspective true, but there is hope as I see a lot of positive comments garnering a lot of likes, so it seems there are plenty of us with a slightly more accomodating, realistic and compassionate outlook. Bring the hate! A lot of us grew up in the 60's-70's.and still have memories and empathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Amras said: Agreed. Geez I haven't been reading a lot of comments lately, but damn. Most ThaiVisa posters are still the same. High mighty sitting behind their computer. It's 0.2grams for personal use. Hardly worth 15 years in prison. A significant fine maybe, community service (which would be good in Thailand) but not jail. While other's drive unlicensed or drunk and kill 1 or multiple people in car accidents walk away with no more than a sorry, it's pathetic really. She's not a dealer, she's not selling. Remember the only difference between Alcohol and other 'hard' drugs is one is illegal the other isn't. The all ruin a heap of lives, cause violence, dependency and so on. Except 'weed', you'd be hard pressed to find the same amount of negative social consequences of that plant. (Note I don't do any 'drugs' and rarely drink, but I also believe in the choice for other people to do and deal with, the consequences of their own choices). Asia and their war on drugs....while running people over in the street is more acceptable. I'll never understand it.... Or two years for stabbing the dog who attacked his daughter. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Blindedbythelight said: If someone wanted to frame her; you don't do at the airport. You get the cops to stop her car for any fake reason. If gives them the chance to search her car, purse or any bags in the car. They would then drop 500 g of coke in the car. Not just enough coke to do a few lines. That's a ridiculous post. You do it anywhere you can and most importantly you do it where you have your people amidst Thailand's notoriously fractured police force with all its mini-fiefdoms. Let's think where might a wildlife trafficker have most influence. Oh! At the airport, perhaps? Take a look at the ridiculous "trial" at which the defence was deliberately sidelined. All the hallmarks of a set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, SOUTHERNSTAR said: In most countries she would have walked because of the bungling investigation. The chance of her being framed is greater han 50%. They also never tested her for use. I think this was a mistake by the defence. she ASKED to be tested and they refused and they SEARCHED her home and found evidence to convict her on Wildlife charges... have you read the thread? we are repeating ourselves here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kasset Tak said: Thailand used to use death sentence for drug smuggling and during the War on Drugs when Thaksin were running the country more than 2000 people were killed... maybe 15 years in prison isn't really that bad after all. Try a stunt like that in the Philippines now with Duerte in power and you probably end up in the morgue and if you are famous it's just make it a better warning to others to stay away from that shit... So you endorse govt hit squads murdering people,in both countries.No trial nothing,state sanctioned murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindedbythelight Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Briggsy said: That's a ridiculous post. You do it anywhere you can and most importantly you do it where you have your people amidst Thailand's notoriously fractured police force with all its mini-fiefdoms. Let's think where might a wildlife trafficker have most influence. Oh! At the airport, perhaps? Take a look at the ridiculous "trial" at which the defence was deliberately sidelined. All the hallmarks of a set-up. Think about the Thai culture for a second. They feed about a million soi dogs each day. They won't kill a mosquito if they are in a temple. If the 70 million Thai's people thought she was innocent. They would all be supporting her; not only a few 1000 or so. It is only the Farang , because of the White husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, louse1953 said: A lot of us grew up in the 60's-70's.and still have memories and empathy. I know I went through a few 8-Balls in the 1980's. Haven't touched the stuff since. I'd feel HORRIBLE for 8-10 days after snorting. Same with LSD. Weed just makes me want to sleep....even though I never inhaled :-) I don't mind an occasional Valium just before a trans-Pacific flight though....Just sleep through the 15 hour flight. Now, Viagra....That's a FUN recreational drug. Edited March 17, 2017 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Blindedbythelight said: Think about the Thai culture for a second. They feed about a million soi dogs each day. They won't kill a mosquito if they are in a temple. If the 70 million Thai's people thought she was innocent. They would all be supporting her; not only a few 1000 or so. It is only the Farang , because of the White husband. She looks a lot like my wife too is one reason. They could pass as twin sisters. The 70 million Thai people are like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed sh&t. If they say anything then the thugs w/ guns and badges will be banging on their door. Edited March 17, 2017 by jaywalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would rather see those three turds that kicked the hell out of that security guard the other day do major time than a woman for such a tiny amount of coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Get Real said: Just a little adventurous boy having a tv-show, that believes his small fame can stand above the law. Just bit on it and suck it up. You wife made a choise that left you with the children. You just should have known who you married from start. She says she was set up over saving animals that pissed off someone high up. I tend to believe her, she also says that this is why she got the severe sentence, which I think is over the top at the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Amras said: Agreed. Geez I haven't been reading a lot of comments lately, but damn. Most ThaiVisa posters are still the same. High mighty sitting behind their computer. It's 0.2grams for personal use. Hardly worth 15 years in prison. A significant fine maybe, community service (which would be good in Thailand) but not jail. While other's drive unlicensed or drunk and kill 1 or multiple people in car accidents walk away with no more than a sorry, it's pathetic really. She's not a dealer, she's not selling. Remember the only difference between Alcohol and other 'hard' drugs is one is illegal the other isn't. The all ruin a heap of lives, cause violence, dependency and so on. Except 'weed', you'd be hard pressed to find the same amount of negative social consequences of that plant. (Note I don't do any 'drugs' and rarely drink, but I also believe in the choice for other people to do and deal with, the consequences of their own choices). Asia and their war on drugs....while running people over in the street is more acceptable. I'll never understand it.... I am not high 'n mighty or holier-than-thou on drugs. (I have tried cannabis myself, although a long time ago). Just pointing out that drugs laws here aren't anything like as lenient as many people would like, or would like to think. I think the "war on drugs" has been comprehensively lost, and the world needs a whole different approach. I don't believe in giving people in the US, UK, Europe etc prison time and a prison record for cannabis offences, that seems to be changing in places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Blindedbythelight said: Think about the Thai culture for a second. They feed about a million soi dogs each day. They won't kill a mosquito if they are in a temple. If the 70 million Thai's people thought she was innocent. They would all be supporting her; not only a few 1000 or so. It is only the Farang , because of the White husband. My Thai friend tells me 390,000 have signed the on-line protest and are demanding the Thai Government do something I have no idea if this will make any difference but we can only hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Found this link:-http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/citylife-articles/big-fish-little-fish-why-thailands-drug-laws-just-dont-work/Maybe if the police made an exchange, 21 Rhino horns handed over to the powerful illegal wildlife cartel in exchange for them to drop the charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 hours ago, jonclark said: 0.2g hardly makes her a drugs mule. Drugs and the abuse and consumption of drugs (like alcohol prescription meds and tobacco) is a social not criminal issue. Locking someone up for 15 years for 0.2grams of a substance is utter nonsense. Will this sentence deter other who want to take drugs. Abosoluty not! That much is obvious as ice/yaba and other drug user are continually flooding prisions most being repeat offenders. Society needs to lool at the issue through a different filter. Feel very sorry for this young family. 6 hours ago, ezzra said: I still remember her posted on a giant billboard on the Asoke-Sukhuvit rd 15 or so years ago, since than she has lived in a tumultuous times with many ups and downs in her life and career and to end up in jail as a drug mule, Oh, what a tangled web we weave.... Drugmule with 251/1000 gram/251 mg =1/4 gram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Man Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 milligrams.... it is quite know that over 90% of US dollars bills (pounds and other currencies too) are contaminated with cocain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_currency " Results demonstrated that "92% of the bills were positive for cocaine with a mean amount of 28.75+/-139.07 micrograms per bill " Let's say 75 micrograms per bill = you just need 7 bills in your wallet to be sent for 15 years to jail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 If they were being paid for promoting Coke (the Coca Cola variety) I have a feeling that deal just went south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 57 minutes ago, Blindedbythelight said: Think about the Thai culture for a second. They feed about a million soi dogs each day. They won't kill a mosquito if they are in a temple. If the 70 million Thai's people thought she was innocent. They would all be supporting her; not only a few 1000 or so. It is only the Farang , because of the White husband. This post perfectly displays why you do not understand what is happening here. You have transferred your concept of society, government institutions and social norms from the West and applied it lock, stock and barrel to a completely different society. It doesn't work. Thais are very well aware of the dangers of coming into conflict with senior police, high-level civil servants, top military and local politicians. Their "status radar" is permanently switched on and it affects each and every interaction with others. Read the Thai press and you will find tales of injustice at the hands of influential people every single day, often accompanied by a blurred photo of a body lying on the pavement with a trail of blood running from it. Do you think the Thais do not fully understand what happens here on a regular basis? And yet mass protests against the inequities in society are few. This is not the West where street protests are common and often can bring about change. The people who are creating injustice here are the same people who decide who is set up and sent to prison and who can buy themselves out of trouble, what the law is and who it is applied to. There are no checks and balances. It is dangerous to protest and the vast majority of Thais just want to keep under the radar, pay the rent and feed their families. You do not understand the nature of this society and the level of inequality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindedbythelight Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, jaywalker said: She looks a lot like my wife too is one reason. They could pass as twin sisters. The 70 million Thai people are like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed sh&t. If they say anything then the thugs w/ guns and badges will be banging on their door. 555 yes you are 100 % correct. Not ! If they want to say something, they talk through Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, evadgib said: Sounds like a case for Drummond. I thought he finally left the country. Tell me I'm not wrong, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Briggsy said: Read the Thai press and you will find tales of injustice at the hands of influential people every single day, often accompanied by a blurred photo of a body lying on the pavement with a trail of blood running from it. Makes me feel homesick for Chicago (or New York or LA or ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindedbythelight Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Briggsy said: This post perfectly displays why you do not understand what is happening here. You have transferred your concept of society, government institutions and social norms from the West and applied it lock, stock and barrel to a completely different society. It doesn't work. Thais are very well aware of the dangers of coming into conflict with senior police, high-level civil servants, top military and local politicians. Their "status radar" is permanently switched on and it affects each and every interaction with others. Read the Thai press and you will find tales of injustice at the hands of influential people every single day, often accompanied by a blurred photo of a body lying on the pavement with a trail of blood running from it. Do you think the Thais do not fully understand what happens here on a regular basis? And yet mass protests against the inequities in society are few. This is not the West where street protests are common and often can bring about change. The people who are creating injustice here are the same people who decide who is set up and sent to prison and who can buy themselves out of trouble, what the law is and who it is applied to. There are no checks and balances. It is dangerous to protest and the vast majority of Thais just want to keep under the radar, pay the rent and feed their families. You do not understand the nature of this society and the level of inequality. I have lived and worked in Thailand for over 15 years. So I understand; but do not agree with your Post. I guess you have never heard of Facebook ? If the Thai people were upset or they thought what happened to this girls, was not right. It would be all over Facebook. And if you have a wife, Girlfriend, or male partner( don't get upset, some people are gay) you would have heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Blindedbythelight said: 555 yes you are 100 % correct. Not ! If they want to say something, they talk through Facebook. Not sure which light you got blinded by, but they've been hauling folks off to jail the last several years for any and everything said that's in the least bit disparaging about the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Suradit69 said: I thought he finally left the country. Tell me I'm not wrong, please. That hasn't stopped him although he can be a little slow these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarangJon Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just another thai bullshit. Next please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Bangkok Post, gets money from the Discovery Channel; to advertise; so cannot believe this paper. "Blindedbythelight" - you really do have a most apt user name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Get Real said: Just a little adventurous boy having a tv-show, that believes his small fame can stand above the law. Just bit on it and suck it up. You wife made a choise that left you with the children. You just should have known who you married from start. I think that she got off light here in Asia.Years ago this could have been the death sentence in some countries and a minimum of 25 years in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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